"The Joe Show" - Joe Staley Thread

Well, since almost every post in this thread says that he's barely average, I'd say he's not overrated. He is a worthy starter that would start (at either LT or RT) on just about every team in the league. Plus he's versatile, a team player, and young.

[ Edited by mug0mug on Apr 4, 2010 at 15:31:15 ]

I don't think he is overrated and I expect him to continue to improve his game. Everyone held thier breath last year when he went down. Luckily Sims came and in did a decent job in relief.

Whether you think he is overrated or not, IMO its hard to argue the fact that he is one of, if not the best OL the Niners have.

being overrated is overrated.

Originally posted by SFCH3DDERZ:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by SFCH3DDERZ:
staley played 9 games last year
allowed
3 sacks
5 QB hits
4 QB pressures.


on the other hand Snyder played all 16
allowed

10 sacks
8 QB hits
30 QB pressures

Interesting, how does it stack up against other LTs?

-9fA

check it out.http://profootballfocus.com

Interesting comparison:

#26 Joe Staley, SF 0 penalties, 3 sacks, 5 hits, 4 pressures in 9 games
#27 Ryan Diem, IND 7 penalties, 1 sack, 7 hits, 27 pressures in 15 games

1 sack and 27 pressures???? How many sacks does that translate to with the Hill/Smith duo under center?

Originally posted by CornellU49er:

Originally posted by SFCH3DDERZ:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by SFCH3DDERZ:
staley played 9 games last year
allowed
3 sacks
5 QB hits
4 QB pressures.


on the other hand Snyder played all 16
allowed

10 sacks
8 QB hits
30 QB pressures

Interesting, how does it stack up against other LTs?

-9fA

check it out.http://profootballfocus.com

Interesting comparison:

#26 Joe Staley, SF 0 penalties, 3 sacks, 5 hits, 4 pressures in 9 games
#27 Ryan Diem, IND 7 penalties, 1 sack, 7 hits, 27 pressures in 15 games

1 sack and 27 pressures???? How many sacks does that translate to with the Hill/Smith duo under center?

like 7-10 probably, considering Snyder's stats

Originally posted by CornellU49er:

Originally posted by SFCH3DDERZ:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by SFCH3DDERZ:
staley played 9 games last year
allowed
3 sacks
5 QB hits
4 QB pressures.


on the other hand Snyder played all 16
allowed

10 sacks
8 QB hits
30 QB pressures

Interesting, how does it stack up against other LTs?

-9fA

check it out.http://profootballfocus.com

Interesting comparison:

Good point, Peyton's quick release sure helps Diem out IMO.
#26 Joe Staley, SF 0 penalties, 3 sacks, 5 hits, 4 pressures in 9 games
#27 Ryan Diem, IND 7 penalties, 1 sack, 7 hits, 27 pressures in 15 games

1 sack and 27 pressures???? How many sacks does that translate to with the Hill/Smith duo under center?

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:

Originally posted by SFCH3DDERZ:

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:

Originally posted by SFCH3DDERZ:
staley played 9 games last year
allowed
3 sacks
5 QB hits
4 QB pressures.


on the other hand Snyder played all 16
allowed

10 sacks
8 QB hits
30 QB pressures

Yikes. Snyder really stinks

that my friends is why we need a RT.

You said it man. Trent Williams FTW

Trent Williams is a run blocking LT. we need a pass blocking RT. he makes no sense for us.

Trent Williams is the guy I'm praying will fall. The RT is usually more of a run blocker anyway, so he'd be fine. He's probably more of a RT at this level. He played all but one year there at Oklahoma.

I think Joe is above average with room to improve. There are a couple of points I would like to make about Joe though. 1. He's signed through 2018 so he's here to stay. 2. He and Heitman are our top two lineman. 3. He along with the rest of the lineman are going to get much better coaching IMO as Solari/Brown should be much better than Warhop/Forester, and 4. He's still young and should still be able to improve IMO.

[ Edited by GorefullBore on Apr 4, 2010 at 20:27:24 ]

He's white.

Originally posted by crzy:
Considering that Barry Sims outplayed Joe Staley last year, yes Staley is overrated.

well he's not overrated he's just above average ...and i think he's not fit on the left side and sims did well...we should keep sims on the Left and put staley back to the Right and draft a lineman.

Originally posted by 49ersOnMINE:

Originally posted by crzy:
Considering that Barry Sims outplayed Joe Staley last year, yes Staley is overrated.

well he's not overrated he's just above average ...and i think he's not fit on the left side and sims did well...we should keep sims on the Left and put staley back to the Right and draft a lineman.

I actually wouldn't be opposed to that. Could do that and draft a OT in the 2nd round and develop him behind Sims for a year.

At this point in his career, he appears to be slightly above average. Since the remainder of the line with the exception of Heitman is well below average I guess the appearance of being good is possible.

Originally posted by crzy:
Considering that Barry Sims outplayed Joe Staley last year, yes Staley is overrated.

^^^^^^^^^This is the Truth Barry Sims was our best T last year

I don't think that he is over or under rated. In fact, he is barely rated. It takes a few seasons to assess if a player is going to be good or not. Having him healthy for a full season with the offense that we have now (plus draftees) should benefit him.

I DEFINITELY don't think he is done progressing. He will get better, and I hope that the rest of our OL does as well.

Hes average with a little upside at pass blocking

Originally posted by YorkHater:

Originally posted by crzy:
Considering that Barry Sims outplayed Joe Staley last year, yes Staley is overrated.

^^^^^^^^^This is the Truth Barry Sims was our best OL last year

Fixed