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Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by wailers15:
ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!! LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sick & tired of Crabtree. We are the only ones to blame. It's obvious we didn't scout him. It's obvious that we never brought him in for an interview, it's obvious we didn't do our homework. Scotty blew his wad when he saw him drop and drafted him.

Ummm I believe most 49er fans wanted him when he dropped not just the Scotty. How is it obvious we never scouted him and can you provide factual evidence of that that we never did ?

Go back and look and the Brady Quinn situation when he dropped in the draft, he got more money than his slotted position as has been previously pointed out. He held out 10 days and the team coughed up the money. It has never had a negative effect on their last 2 drafts when it came time to signing their picks.

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We didn't draft for need. WE DID NOT DRAFT FOR NEEDS!!!! that is why we are in this position. M. Oher should've been the pick. Logical. Man we are starting to look & sound like the raiders. pathetic. all of you on here that love this kid go to hell! he will suck. he was a system wr and will not be a good wr in the nfl. stop tjhe madness.


There are 2 theory's in the NFL draft for need or draft BPA regardless of position. We drafted the BPA far and away. If we wanted Oher then we should have traded back into the first to get him. He dropped quite far for a guy who was supposedly going to go in the top 10, you know why ? Because he showed a lot of inconsistencies. The 49ers picked the right player when they were on the clock.

There are a TON of system players who get drafted and turn into studs once they reach the pro's. Can you explain why he will suck, because you have failed to post anything insightful yet.
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allot of you have drank the cool aid. crap man this makes me sick. if my boys & me see you with a crabtree jersey in the parking lot prepare for hell man. there will be a t least 12 angry guys reaming your ass! this is stupid.

Wow you and your boys are some real tough guys hunh ? Nothing like making fun of another 49ers fan because of the 49ers jersey he so chooses to wear, that'll show that fan. Way to make us look like Raider fans!

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what will be even more stupid is if we sign him. what a waste of a pick. another waste of a first round pick. pathetic! it's the curse of the mooch! f**k the yorks!!! & scotty! horrid management.

How would that be stupid ? To sign a player with his potential is a GREAT thing and not at all a bad thing. He can hopefully eventually help improve a far from great WR core. We have some potential at WR but none have a ceiling anywhere near as high as MC's.

You are right, it will be a waste of a pick if at some time something doesn't get done. However with so few details available to us about this whole ordeal it is not fair to really truly blame one side or the other.

All we have learned is he was offered 16 mill guaranteed and the there have not been many talks between the 2 sides since then. Maybe the 49ers should up the offer, maybe they should be pushing a little harder to show him how much they want him to be a player on this team. Maybe Crabtree & co. should submit a counter offer (if they already haven't) and maybe Crabtree needs to make a statement to the media.

However one thing is clear, 49er fans are clearly overreacting to all of this. At the end of the day this sport has become a business and right now it's about money. We have very few details to actually go on yet everyone wants to blame Crabtree for the holdout. How many times have fans claimed the York's are cheap over the last few years....maybe it's time for the FO to put more money on the table or release more details to show us that they are doing all they can to get MC signed which would put more pressure ont he Crabtree camp to get something done.



Agree with everything you're saying. Except the part where the niners need to up the offer. Until Crabtree's camp comes with a counter offer, the niners do not need to bend.

Maybe it is time to offer more guaranteed, be it 2-5 million more (if we already haven't). It may just be time to show him that we are seriously wanting him to be in uniform. If nothing comes of it then we sit and wait for a counter and make that clear to the media and fans, let them know we have put more money on the table and now await a counter if that is not good enough.

Hell no! I'd rather keep the receivers that we have now than give into to this pussies demands and let him punk us! I bet that when he comes, if he comes, to this team, he will be b***hing about something else soon after anyways! Time TO MOVE ON WITHOUT HIM! CUT OUR LOSSES!

Did or has Brady Quinn ever punk the Browns since they gave in to his wanting more money than what #22 deserved ?

Speculating and assuming is ridiculous.

I dont care what other teams did. I dont want the niners to become a f**king charity! Whats more ridiculous is to listen to that clown and his "advisers" and give him more cause his ego is hurt! f**k him!

So by giving in to his demands that makes us a charity ? WOW!

I thought giving him a 16 million signing bonus is charity considering he has already ruined his first NFL season.

Exactly! They should start taking some of that off of the offer for every week he isnt here starting last week!
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by wailers15:
ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!! LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sick & tired of Crabtree. We are the only ones to blame. It's obvious we didn't scout him. It's obvious that we never brought him in for an interview, it's obvious we didn't do our homework. Scotty blew his wad when he saw him drop and drafted him.

Ummm I believe most 49er fans wanted him when he dropped not just the Scotty. How is it obvious we never scouted him and can you provide factual evidence of that that we never did ?

Go back and look and the Brady Quinn situation when he dropped in the draft, he got more money than his slotted position as has been previously pointed out. He held out 10 days and the team coughed up the money. It has never had a negative effect on their last 2 drafts when it came time to signing their picks.

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We didn't draft for need. WE DID NOT DRAFT FOR NEEDS!!!! that is why we are in this position. M. Oher should've been the pick. Logical. Man we are starting to look & sound like the raiders. pathetic. all of you on here that love this kid go to hell! he will suck. he was a system wr and will not be a good wr in the nfl. stop tjhe madness.


There are 2 theory's in the NFL draft for need or draft BPA regardless of position. We drafted the BPA far and away. If we wanted Oher then we should have traded back into the first to get him. He dropped quite far for a guy who was supposedly going to go in the top 10, you know why ? Because he showed a lot of inconsistencies. The 49ers picked the right player when they were on the clock.

There are a TON of system players who get drafted and turn into studs once they reach the pro's. Can you explain why he will suck, because you have failed to post anything insightful yet.
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allot of you have drank the cool aid. crap man this makes me sick. if my boys & me see you with a crabtree jersey in the parking lot prepare for hell man. there will be a t least 12 angry guys reaming your ass! this is stupid.

Wow you and your boys are some real tough guys hunh ? Nothing like making fun of another 49ers fan because of the 49ers jersey he so chooses to wear, that'll show that fan. Way to make us look like Raider fans!

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what will be even more stupid is if we sign him. what a waste of a pick. another waste of a first round pick. pathetic! it's the curse of the mooch! f**k the yorks!!! & scotty! horrid management.

How would that be stupid ? To sign a player with his potential is a GREAT thing and not at all a bad thing. He can hopefully eventually help improve a far from great WR core. We have some potential at WR but none have a ceiling anywhere near as high as MC's.

You are right, it will be a waste of a pick if at some time something doesn't get done. However with so few details available to us about this whole ordeal it is not fair to really truly blame one side or the other.

All we have learned is he was offered 16 mill guaranteed and the there have not been many talks between the 2 sides since then. Maybe the 49ers should up the offer, maybe they should be pushing a little harder to show him how much they want him to be a player on this team. Maybe Crabtree & co. should submit a counter offer (if they already haven't) and maybe Crabtree needs to make a statement to the media.

However one thing is clear, 49er fans are clearly overreacting to all of this. At the end of the day this sport has become a business and right now it's about money. We have very few details to actually go on yet everyone wants to blame Crabtree for the holdout. How many times have fans claimed the York's are cheap over the last few years....maybe it's time for the FO to put more money on the table or release more details to show us that they are doing all they can to get MC signed which would put more pressure ont he Crabtree camp to get something done.



Agree with everything you're saying. Except the part where the niners need to up the offer. Until Crabtree's camp comes with a counter offer, the niners do not need to bend.

Maybe it is time to offer more guaranteed, be it 2-5 million more (if we already haven't). It may just be time to show him that we are seriously wanting him to be in uniform. If nothing comes of it then we sit and wait for a counter and make that clear to the media and fans, let them know we have put more money on the table and now await a counter if that is not good enough.

Hell no! I'd rather keep the receivers that we have now than give into to this pussies demands and let him punk us! I bet that when he comes, if he comes, to this team, he will be b***hing about something else soon after anyways! Time TO MOVE ON WITHOUT HIM! CUT OUR LOSSES!

Did or has Brady Quinn ever punk the Browns since they gave in to his wanting more money than what #22 deserved ?

Speculating and assuming is ridiculous.

I dont care what other teams did. I dont want the niners to become a f**king charity! Whats more ridiculous is to listen to that clown and his "advisers" and give him more cause his ego is hurt! f**k him!

So by giving in to his demands that makes us a charity ? WOW!

I thought giving him a 16 million signing bonus is charity considering he has already ruined his first NFL season.

Exactly! They should start taking some of that off of the offer for every week he isnt here starting last week!

with every game he hasnt sing he will lose money so there is no need to lower his contract because he will be allready losing money.... I think we will trade him to the cowgirls in march..

go niners
  • KNRO1670
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Interesting! New from Matt B

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/
Originally posted by KNRO1670:
Interesting! New from Matt B

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/

Go figure. Dilfer had a chance to get some incite and didn't deliver
Originally posted by KNRO1670:
Interesting! New from Matt B

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/

Might have been nice if Dufus had tried to help.
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Any chance they would sign for 16 million guaranteed


[ Edited by dugo on Sep 9, 2009 at 10:33:51 ]
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Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by dirtysouthniner:
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by wailers15:
ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!! LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sick & tired of Crabtree. We are the only ones to blame. It's obvious we didn't scout him. It's obvious that we never brought him in for an interview, it's obvious we didn't do our homework. Scotty blew his wad when he saw him drop and drafted him.

Ummm I believe most 49er fans wanted him when he dropped not just the Scotty. How is it obvious we never scouted him and can you provide factual evidence of that that we never did ?

Go back and look and the Brady Quinn situation when he dropped in the draft, he got more money than his slotted position as has been previously pointed out. He held out 10 days and the team coughed up the money. It has never had a negative effect on their last 2 drafts when it came time to signing their picks.

Quote:
We didn't draft for need. WE DID NOT DRAFT FOR NEEDS!!!! that is why we are in this position. M. Oher should've been the pick. Logical. Man we are starting to look & sound like the raiders. pathetic. all of you on here that love this kid go to hell! he will suck. he was a system wr and will not be a good wr in the nfl. stop tjhe madness.


There are 2 theory's in the NFL draft for need or draft BPA regardless of position. We drafted the BPA far and away. If we wanted Oher then we should have traded back into the first to get him. He dropped quite far for a guy who was supposedly going to go in the top 10, you know why ? Because he showed a lot of inconsistencies. The 49ers picked the right player when they were on the clock.

There are a TON of system players who get drafted and turn into studs once they reach the pro's. Can you explain why he will suck, because you have failed to post anything insightful yet.
Quote:

allot of you have drank the cool aid. crap man this makes me sick. if my boys & me see you with a crabtree jersey in the parking lot prepare for hell man. there will be a t least 12 angry guys reaming your ass! this is stupid.

Wow you and your boys are some real tough guys hunh ? Nothing like making fun of another 49ers fan because of the 49ers jersey he so chooses to wear, that'll show that fan. Way to make us look like Raider fans!

Quote:
what will be even more stupid is if we sign him. what a waste of a pick. another waste of a first round pick. pathetic! it's the curse of the mooch! f**k the yorks!!! & scotty! horrid management.

How would that be stupid ? To sign a player with his potential is a GREAT thing and not at all a bad thing. He can hopefully eventually help improve a far from great WR core. We have some potential at WR but none have a ceiling anywhere near as high as MC's.

You are right, it will be a waste of a pick if at some time something doesn't get done. However with so few details available to us about this whole ordeal it is not fair to really truly blame one side or the other.

All we have learned is he was offered 16 mill guaranteed and the there have not been many talks between the 2 sides since then. Maybe the 49ers should up the offer, maybe they should be pushing a little harder to show him how much they want him to be a player on this team. Maybe Crabtree & co. should submit a counter offer (if they already haven't) and maybe Crabtree needs to make a statement to the media.

However one thing is clear, 49er fans are clearly overreacting to all of this. At the end of the day this sport has become a business and right now it's about money. We have very few details to actually go on yet everyone wants to blame Crabtree for the holdout. How many times have fans claimed the York's are cheap over the last few years....maybe it's time for the FO to put more money on the table or release more details to show us that they are doing all they can to get MC signed which would put more pressure ont he Crabtree camp to get something done.



Agree with everything you're saying. Except the part where the niners need to up the offer. Until Crabtree's camp comes with a counter offer, the niners do not need to bend.

Maybe it is time to offer more guaranteed, be it 2-5 million more (if we already haven't). It may just be time to show him that we are seriously wanting him to be in uniform. If nothing comes of it then we sit and wait for a counter and make that clear to the media and fans, let them know we have put more money on the table and now await a counter if that is not good enough.

Hell no! I'd rather keep the receivers that we have now than give into to this pussies demands and let him punk us! I bet that when he comes, if he comes, to this team, he will be b***hing about something else soon after anyways! Time TO MOVE ON WITHOUT HIM! CUT OUR LOSSES!

Did or has Brady Quinn ever punk the Browns since they gave in to his wanting more money than what #22 deserved ?

Speculating and assuming is ridiculous.

I dont care what other teams did. I dont want the niners to become a f**king charity! Whats more ridiculous is to listen to that clown and his "advisers" and give him more cause his ego is hurt! f**k him!

So by giving in to his demands that makes us a charity ? WOW!

You know what?? You are obviously all over his nuts@ck! Im not wasting my time arguing about someone who isnt even a 49er! You are probably pissed and butthurt cause you bought a warehouse full of jerseys and f*gtree merchandise huh??

Not on his nutsack, own zero MC jersey's and you EPICALLY FAILED when you said you aren't wasting your time arguing about someone who isn't a 9er when you already have been.

any positive news on this front is welcome. I'm sure he could have found a QB who wasn't an ex-niner as well.

Pen hits paper within the next few days?

[ Edited by pdxredandgold on Sep 9, 2009 at 10:34:10 ]
Originally posted by KNRO1670:
Interesting! New from Matt B

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/

if Crabtree wants a live arm, why doesn't he just sign his contract and come train with the 49ers?

Originally posted by pdxredandgold:
any positive news on this front is welcome. I'm sure he could have found a quarter back who wasn't an ex-niner as well.

Pen hits paper within the next few days?

He is working out in the bay area. He has to be itching to get back in the game.
Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Crabtree will sign, he will be a 9er for the next 4-5 years, he will score many TDs for us

Keep telling yourself that and you might start to believe it.

You should consider changing your member name. Primetime has bad kharma and is not longer welcomed around here. He is a Cowboy at heart.

I liked him for the 1 year he played for us, but he is dead to me now. He is a self-righteous turd. Not you, Deion..
Originally posted by HessianDud:
Originally posted by KNRO1670:
Interesting! New from Matt B

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/

if Crabtree wants a live arm, why doesn't he just sign his contract and come train with the 49ers?


Since when did Dilfer have a live arm??!!!
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by HessianDud:
Originally posted by KNRO1670:
Interesting! New from Matt B

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/

if Crabtree wants a live arm, why doesn't he just sign his contract and come train with the 49ers?


Since when did Dilfer have a live arm??!!!

lol he must be running 5 yd come backs
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