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The Niners' Year is Coming....in 2010

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Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The Death of the Ghost of Steve Mariucci is coming soon.

Since Mooch was fired at the end of the 2002 season (be careful what you ask for, fans), after winning a spectacular playoff game against the NY Giants (Yes, our last playoff win was nearly 7 years ago), the Niners have had 6 consecutive losing seasons, gone through 4 head coaches, 8 starting QB's: Garcia, Rattay, Dilfer, Dorsey, Pickett, Smith, Hill, O'Sullivan; 6 years running of new offensive coordinators: 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009. The parade of personnel is staggering.

The Niners seem to be building something we haven't seen since Mooch was canned, a winning season. And that day is coming soon...in 2010.

Many Niners fans expect the 2009 season to end of the Ghost of Mooch, but the team is not ready yet. Here is why?

1) The starting QB- This is the year the Niners find their starter, but we don't know who that person will be going into camp. Either Hill or Smith is going to emerge as unquestioned man to run the ship in 2010. If Hill emerges as the starter in 2009, he will have his chance to prove to the NFL world that he deserves to be classified as a starter in this league, not just a guy who comes off the bench mid-way through a season to salvage whatever is left in the year. If Smith emerges as the season starter, or replaces an ineffective Hill, he will be the guy to possibly regain the franchise QB tag. Skeptics will say that neither man is the guy to lead the 49ers into the playoff. I disagree. It just isn't going to happen this season. Teams with unsettled QB battles in training camp rarely emerge past the .500 mark (unless they have a studly defense, which we don't). A year from now, we will know our starter, and that stability will help.

2) The Niners' WR's are still a year away. The team should see the emergence of Josh Morgan, but the other side of the field is not going to be permanently occupied and satisfied until Michael Crabtree becomes productive. This is not going to happen in 2009. Crabtree is still recovering from his foot injury, will more than likely be a training camp holdout for some time, and has a LOT to learn before making an impact in the NFL. 2009 is his year to learn the game. 2010 is when we will see something. At TE, this is a big year for Vernon Davis. He has to show that he can run routes effectively, and be a player the team can count on. If so, the Niners have the complete package. If not, they are going to have to look elsewhere. Rookie TE's can make a sizable impact, so if Davis is not the answer, another player can step in and produce.

3) The Niners' OL will be fully ready to go in 2010. 2009 is an experiment at RT, and it could go many different directions. Either M. Smith could emerge as a healthy player who will lead the right side of our OL into 2010, or the Niners will install either a developmental player with upside (Boone, Bender) or use a draft choice. Staley, Heitmann (who Fox Sports stated was our best OL by far in 2008), Rachal, all look solid. At LG, either Baas will play well and pick up an extension, or the Niners will look elsewhere (draft, FA). The key is continuity, and the Niners have at least 3 solid guys going into 2010 that are written in stone.

4) The pass rush is not there, yet. The Manny Lawson experiment is ready to roll, and I'm hoping to be wrong in my prediction, but rushing the passer has never been Manny's strength (he is much better in coverage and running laterally), and I don't see anything to change my opinion at this point. If he has gained the supposed 15 pounds (which he supposedly stacks on every offseason...soon he should be approaching 300 pounds), and strength, we might have a decent pass rusher. However, Parys Haralson is this team's decent pass rusher. The team lacks a dominant pass rusher, and 2010 will be the year the team finally addresses this issue.

5) Dashon Goldson is going to have serious growing pains. While the board loves to bash Mark Roman (deservedly so in terms of forcing turnovers), Roman was a solid, steady and seasoned deep defender. Goldson gives playmaking ability, but expect a spike in deep home runs against the Niners. Spectacular versus steady. I'll take the risk on spectacular, but the Niners may need to visit the draft next season if Goldson does not work out.

6) Singletary, Raye, and company need time to get it all together. I expect the Niners will retain all of their main coaches (Sing, Manusky, Raye) for 2010, and that continuity is going to help us. This season, we are going to see the growing pains of transition, once again. A new OC means a new start again, and that typically spells trouble for a franchise that has not adapted well to the continual line of OC that spin through the team every year.

7) The Niners will have 2 first round selections next season. I believe the team will still need to draft some playmakers in 2010 (maybe a Will pass rusher, maybe a reliable TE, maybe a stable RT, maybe a stud FS). But, slowly, the amount of new talent needed to make a run is shrinking. The Niners appear to be set at virtually every position on offense (outside of RT, LG and maybe TE), and defense (Will, NT, maybe FS and CB). The club has wisely extended players to keep them from running away, and that bodes well down the road.

I could be wrong on my prediction for 2010. The Ghost of Mooch could be killed off in 2009. The curse of the Super Bowl loser ALWAYS kills off their victim (Cards better watch out), the Rams and Hawks appear weak. However, I just don't see this year as the year, and I hope fans do not become discouraged in 2009.

The run begins in 2010.

i hated reading this the 1st time around but you seem like a genious now Maddog....i don't want to see some our time is coming in 2011 thread though!

Agree


This was scary accurate!
I hope expectations of the OL overall are not too high. They should be solid, but I'm reading what appear to be expectations of dominance. We have two rookies on the line, folks. They may do solid, but nothing spectacular just yet.

I, as much as any other fan, would love to see our line be punishing. However, I understand they may not be that. For Alex's sake, I hope they do well enough for us to get to the playoffs at least.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I hope expectations of the OL overall are not too high. They should be solid, but I'm reading what appear to be expectations of dominance. We have two rookies on the line, folks. They may do solid, but nothing spectacular just yet.

I, as much as any other fan, would love to see our line be punishing. However, I understand they may not be that. For Alex's sake, I hope they do well enough for us to get to the playoffs at least.

I'm assuming we will be better then last year...and that's all I want, improvement.
We're in a bunch of trouble. We've spent a bunch of money extending the contracts of players who may not be all that good to begin with.

Willis has been an absolute non-factor today. Vernon Davis is earning a zillion coins for every two yard catch he makes.

We've got a bunch of very well paid players on the roster -- locked up to long-term contracts that count against the salary cap -- who fell flat on their collective keesters today in a game we all expected the Niners to win.

Instead -- we got blown out of Seattle.

Blown out of Seattle? Think about it. A SeaChickens team with major roster problems on both sides of the ball comes right in and hits us square on the mouth. A receiver who hasn't been in the NFL for the past two seasons runs cirlces around our highly paid DB's.

This is trouble. Big trouble.
watching this hurts my soul.
Originally posted by zillabeast:
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Originally posted by zillabeast:
Originally posted by zillabeast:
Billbird, i hope you re-look at your post and see if there are any commonalities there... like a lot of good players, all paid well, but a coach in charge of all who maybe, just may be the common thread that makes them all look bad? That O playcalling today reminded me of flag football in 7th grade. The D obviously overlooked the fact that the Saints ran the screen all game long. Was it worked on and fixed between NO and KC? Judge yourself,but the answer is a resounding no. I think most of the talent is fine, and i believe a really good coach would have some playing sitting, and vice versa. A bunch of young blood coaches, 2 rooks, and one HC only 2-3 yrs with a SB ring, coached circles around our coach, our team, and made the 9ers look absolutely horrid.

BigMike(BM) is the common thread, the one that is responsible for every W/L, every player, every starter, and benchwarmer. He is big on rah rah, but hates to be grilled on why he did what. Pride, i'd imagine...as in how dare you? which, incidentally got one journalist kicked out of the 9er locker room for asking the same questions we are...why, how, when , what , where, who. This jouralist went too far with Bm on the not getting plays in on time and got banned from the locker room for wondering about the same thing the rest of us did. How could he be so incredibly incompetent and blind as to not see that one item was killing us. But ask him about it and you are a RAT. He has great skills in obfuscating a problem and blame shifting it elsewhere.

Are the players you mentioned overpaid, the wrong ones, every dang one of them? For a while i thot so too, but now, it is just plain as the nose on my face. this guy is bigmike, the big loser...and he is taking the 9ers down with him. Actually it isn't his fault jed jump promoted him. It's jed's fault, and i would hope sometime , hopefully long before game 8, he would remove the problem and let this team progress under Mj, or Gruden, maybe tony Dungy if he said yes.

The biggest off season hire we didn't make wasn't a LB. It was a HC/OC. And they were out there. Now only gruden remains. Throw money at him and see what he can do to straighten things out with some really good, but wasted talent. It's up to jed. Only he can save the 9ers now. BM is too set in stone, too pigheaded. Too inexperienced, and way too green for a HC or DC gig. Jed, son, help us . Save what you have built, but keep BM and you will have a loser's loser at season's end. Honestly, i think there will be a players revolt. It didn't take a genius to see how badly outcoached we were today. It was embarrassing, but more than that jed, it is going to cost you money when you have mass disaffectation if Bm stays on. Let him go, lad, let him go. You really think p52, alex, mj, vd, crabs, morgan,frank, and the entire OL, plus most of D didn't see BM once again fall flat on his face? They aren't stupid...they are just disallusioned.
The Niners seem to be building something we haven't seen since Mooch was canned, a winning season. And that day is coming soon...in 2011.

Many Niner fans expected a division title for the 2010 season, but the team is not ready yet. Here is why?

1) The starting QB- Alex Smith will have a full year, an offseason, and training camp with a young and upcoming, bright mind in Mike Johnson. The man can call plays. The offensive is way more dynamic with Johnson calling the plays, and it will only get better with an offseason and training camp with this guy.

2) The Niners' OLine is still a year away. The team should see dominance with Iupati and Davis after they have gone through their growing pains. You can see both Iupati and Davis improving (except for one or two plays). Fans should not have reasonably expected the Oline, specifically with the absence of their leader in Heitman and two rookie lineman, to play outstanding. In 2011, you can expect the line to be dominant.

3) The pass rush is not there, yet. The niners will be drafting outstanding DE in the upcoming draft and you can expect the 49ers to get that pressure on opposing qbs, in 2011.

5) Taylor Mays is going to have serious growing pains. While the board loves to bash Michael Lewis (deservedly so in terms of forcing turnovers), Lewis was a solid, steady and seasoned deep defender. Mays gives playmaking ability, but expect less than spectacular coverage skills this year. Mays will be a probowler...in 2011.

6) Singletary, Johnson, and company need time to get it all together. I expect the Niners will retain all of their main coaches (Sing, Manusky, Johnson) for 2011, and that continuity is going to help us. This season, we are going to see the growing pains of transition, once again. A new OC means a new start again, and that typically spells trouble for a franchise that has not adapted well to the continual line of OC that spin through the team every year.

7) The Niners will have a high first round selection next season. I believe the team will still need to draft some playmakers in 2011. But, slowly, the amount of new talent needed to make a run is shrinking. The Niners appear to be set at virtually every position on offense, and defense. The club has wisely extended players to keep them from running away, and that bodes well down the road.

I could be wrong on my prediction for 2011. Singletary could be fired, at the end of the season. But the team is still on track.

The run begins in 2011.

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[ Edited by susweel on Oct 27, 2010 at 3:46 PM ]
lol. The 9ers need to tank ASAP, re-sign Spikes though. Alex will go to a different organization that knows how to run an Offense. We need to start over.
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