The Niners' Year is Coming....in 2010

Originally posted by prometheus:
It is something to see a back just lay out a guy with a straightarm. It was like a bird flying into a coke machine. This guy has a knack for that. I haven't seen a right like that since Foreman laid out Joe Frazier. It seems like this is the perfect guy to put guys on defenses into early retirement. I think Singletary's bland comments were for publication. I bet he is grinning ear to ear over a guy like this. For a bruiser Davis is a really nifty runner. Very quick feet and agility. For a back his size and strength, he does remind me of Gore, he has those quick adept feet and quick reflexes to get past the line and then brutalize the defenses. I think if he continues to grow he can replace Gore. Funny but he seems way faster then the 4.7 forty he posted. I don't think those fast bursts he showed lack anything compared to any back.

Nothing wrong with chugging a couple of brewskis before making a patriotic post like this. I'll go with it!

man, it looks like the guy who posted this thread knew what he was talking about. I remember reading this last ear and just dismissing it.

Originally posted by gold49er2183:
man, it looks like the guy who posted this thread knew what he was talking about. I remember reading this last ear and just dismissing it.

Hang around here long enough and you will see more and more of MadDog, especially during draft time. Although controversial, he does offer insight and analysis that is usually superb.

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The Death of the Ghost of Steve Mariucci is coming soon.

Since Mooch was fired at the end of the 2002 season (be careful what you ask for, fans), after winning a spectacular playoff game against the NY Giants (Yes, our last playoff win was nearly 7 years ago), the Niners have had 6 consecutive losing seasons, gone through 4 head coaches, 8 starting QB's: Garcia, Rattay, Dilfer, Dorsey, Pickett, Smith, Hill, O'Sullivan; 6 years running of new offensive coordinators: 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009. The parade of personnel is staggering.
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I always like reading your posts MadDog but I have issue with the fact that you say the fans wanted Mooch out. I remember myself and every fan I knew wondering why they got rid of Mooch, especially without a coherent plan for a replacement. York was the whipping boy in that fiasco...

Also, I don't think Cody Pickett was ever named the niners starter...he came in relief of an injured Rattay if I remember correctly, lasted a couple games, then rode the pine again

[ Edited by Roxy on Aug 18, 2010 at 13:23:47 ]

Rereading the OP just made me want Mooch back. Man I miss that guy.

Originally posted by Roxy:

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The Death of the Ghost of Steve Mariucci is coming soon.

Since Mooch was fired at the end of the 2002 season (be careful what you ask for, fans), after winning a spectacular playoff game against the NY Giants (Yes, our last playoff win was nearly 7 years ago), the Niners have had 6 consecutive losing seasons, gone through 4 head coaches, 8 starting QB's: Garcia, Rattay, Dilfer, Dorsey, Pickett, Smith, Hill, O'Sullivan; 6 years running of new offensive coordinators: 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009. The parade of personnel is staggering.
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I always like reading your posts MadDog but I have issue with the fact that you say the fans wanted Mooch out. I remember myself and every fan I knew wondering why they got rid of Mooch, especially without a coherent plan for a replacement. York was the whipping boy in that fiasco...

Also, I don't think Cody Pickett was ever named the niners starter...he came in relief of an injured Rattay if I remember correctly, lasted a couple games, then rode the pine again

A lot of fans wanted Mooch out because we were that seriously spoiled. Many thought he was too conservative, too much of a player's coach, strayed from the WCO too much, played not to lose....the list goes on. Some didn't like that he flirted with the Notre Dame job a year earlier, others didn't like that he took a hard line with TO. But the facts are, whatever the reason, a lot of fans had the notion that the 49ers could do better than Steve Mariucci. What they did when they unceremoniously dumped is prove just how wrong that assumption was.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The Death of the Ghost of Steve Mariucci is coming soon.

Since Mooch was fired at the end of the 2002 season (be careful what you ask for, fans), after winning a spectacular playoff game against the NY Giants (Yes, our last playoff win was nearly 7 years ago), the Niners have had 6 consecutive losing seasons, gone through 4 head coaches, 8 starting QB's: Garcia, Rattay, Dilfer, Dorsey, Pickett, Smith, Hill, O'Sullivan; 6 years running of new offensive coordinators: 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009. The parade of personnel is staggering.

The Niners seem to be building something we haven't seen since Mooch was canned, a winning season. And that day is coming soon...in 2010.

Many Niners fans expect the 2009 season to end of the Ghost of Mooch, but the team is not ready yet. Here is why?

1) The starting QB- This is the year the Niners find their starter, but we don't know who that person will be going into camp. Either Hill or Smith is going to emerge as unquestioned man to run the ship in 2010. If Hill emerges as the starter in 2009, he will have his chance to prove to the NFL world that he deserves to be classified as a starter in this league, not just a guy who comes off the bench mid-way through a season to salvage whatever is left in the year. If Smith emerges as the season starter, or replaces an ineffective Hill, he will be the guy to possibly regain the franchise QB tag. Skeptics will say that neither man is the guy to lead the 49ers into the playoff. I disagree. It just isn't going to happen this season. Teams with unsettled QB battles in training camp rarely emerge past the .500 mark (unless they have a studly defense, which we don't). A year from now, we will know our starter, and that stability will help.

2) The Niners' WR's are still a year away. The team should see the emergence of Josh Morgan, but the other side of the field is not going to be permanently occupied and satisfied until Michael Crabtree becomes productive. This is not going to happen in 2009. Crabtree is still recovering from his foot injury, will more than likely be a training camp holdout for some time, and has a LOT to learn before making an impact in the NFL. 2009 is his year to learn the game. 2010 is when we will see something. At TE, this is a big year for Vernon Davis. He has to show that he can run routes effectively, and be a player the team can count on. If so, the Niners have the complete package. If not, they are going to have to look elsewhere. Rookie TE's can make a sizable impact, so if Davis is not the answer, another player can step in and produce.

3) The Niners' OL will be fully ready to go in 2010. 2009 is an experiment at RT, and it could go many different directions. Either M. Smith could emerge as a healthy player who will lead the right side of our OL into 2010, or the Niners will install either a developmental player with upside (Boone, Bender) or use a draft choice. Staley, Heitmann (who Fox Sports stated was our best OL by far in 2008), Rachal, all look solid. At LG, either Baas will play well and pick up an extension, or the Niners will look elsewhere (draft, FA). The key is continuity, and the Niners have at least 3 solid guys going into 2010 that are written in stone.

4) The pass rush is not there, yet. The Manny Lawson experiment is ready to roll, and I'm hoping to be wrong in my prediction, but rushing the passer has never been Manny's strength (he is much better in coverage and running laterally), and I don't see anything to change my opinion at this point. If he has gained the supposed 15 pounds (which he supposedly stacks on every offseason...soon he should be approaching 300 pounds), and strength, we might have a decent pass rusher. However, Parys Haralson is this team's decent pass rusher. The team lacks a dominant pass rusher, and 2010 will be the year the team finally addresses this issue.

5) Dashon Goldson is going to have serious growing pains. While the board loves to bash Mark Roman (deservedly so in terms of forcing turnovers), Roman was a solid, steady and seasoned deep defender. Goldson gives playmaking ability, but expect a spike in deep home runs against the Niners. Spectacular versus steady. I'll take the risk on spectacular, but the Niners may need to visit the draft next season if Goldson does not work out.

6) Singletary, Raye, and company need time to get it all together. I expect the Niners will retain all of their main coaches (Sing, Manusky, Raye) for 2010, and that continuity is going to help us. This season, we are going to see the growing pains of transition, once again. A new OC means a new start again, and that typically spells trouble for a franchise that has not adapted well to the continual line of OC that spin through the team every year.

7) The Niners will have 2 first round selections next season. I believe the team will still need to draft some playmakers in 2010 (maybe a Will pass rusher, maybe a reliable TE, maybe a stable RT, maybe a stud FS). But, slowly, the amount of new talent needed to make a run is shrinking. The Niners appear to be set at virtually every position on offense (outside of RT, LG and maybe TE), and defense (Will, NT, maybe FS and CB). The club has wisely extended players to keep them from running away, and that bodes well down the road.

I could be wrong on my prediction for 2010. The Ghost of Mooch could be killed off in 2009. The curse of the Super Bowl loser ALWAYS kills off their victim (Cards better watch out), the Rams and Hawks appear weak. However, I just don't see this year as the year, and I hope fans do not become discouraged in 2009.

The run begins in 2010.

i hated reading this the 1st time around but you seem like a genious now Maddog....i don't want to see some our time is coming in 2011 thread though!

Originally posted by matt49er:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The Death of the Ghost of Steve Mariucci is coming soon.

Since Mooch was fired at the end of the 2002 season (be careful what you ask for, fans), after winning a spectacular playoff game against the NY Giants (Yes, our last playoff win was nearly 7 years ago), the Niners have had 6 consecutive losing seasons, gone through 4 head coaches, 8 starting QB's: Garcia, Rattay, Dilfer, Dorsey, Pickett, Smith, Hill, O'Sullivan; 6 years running of new offensive coordinators: 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009. The parade of personnel is staggering.

The Niners seem to be building something we haven't seen since Mooch was canned, a winning season. And that day is coming soon...in 2010.

Many Niners fans expect the 2009 season to end of the Ghost of Mooch, but the team is not ready yet. Here is why?

1) The starting QB- This is the year the Niners find their starter, but we don't know who that person will be going into camp. Either Hill or Smith is going to emerge as unquestioned man to run the ship in 2010. If Hill emerges as the starter in 2009, he will have his chance to prove to the NFL world that he deserves to be classified as a starter in this league, not just a guy who comes off the bench mid-way through a season to salvage whatever is left in the year. If Smith emerges as the season starter, or replaces an ineffective Hill, he will be the guy to possibly regain the franchise QB tag. Skeptics will say that neither man is the guy to lead the 49ers into the playoff. I disagree. It just isn't going to happen this season. Teams with unsettled QB battles in training camp rarely emerge past the .500 mark (unless they have a studly defense, which we don't). A year from now, we will know our starter, and that stability will help.

2) The Niners' WR's are still a year away. The team should see the emergence of Josh Morgan, but the other side of the field is not going to be permanently occupied and satisfied until Michael Crabtree becomes productive. This is not going to happen in 2009. Crabtree is still recovering from his foot injury, will more than likely be a training camp holdout for some time, and has a LOT to learn before making an impact in the NFL. 2009 is his year to learn the game. 2010 is when we will see something. At TE, this is a big year for Vernon Davis. He has to show that he can run routes effectively, and be a player the team can count on. If so, the Niners have the complete package. If not, they are going to have to look elsewhere. Rookie TE's can make a sizable impact, so if Davis is not the answer, another player can step in and produce.

3) The Niners' OL will be fully ready to go in 2010. 2009 is an experiment at RT, and it could go many different directions. Either M. Smith could emerge as a healthy player who will lead the right side of our OL into 2010, or the Niners will install either a developmental player with upside (Boone, Bender) or use a draft choice. Staley, Heitmann (who Fox Sports stated was our best OL by far in 2008), Rachal, all look solid. At LG, either Baas will play well and pick up an extension, or the Niners will look elsewhere (draft, FA). The key is continuity, and the Niners have at least 3 solid guys going into 2010 that are written in stone.

4) The pass rush is not there, yet. The Manny Lawson experiment is ready to roll, and I'm hoping to be wrong in my prediction, but rushing the passer has never been Manny's strength (he is much better in coverage and running laterally), and I don't see anything to change my opinion at this point. If he has gained the supposed 15 pounds (which he supposedly stacks on every offseason...soon he should be approaching 300 pounds), and strength, we might have a decent pass rusher. However, Parys Haralson is this team's decent pass rusher. The team lacks a dominant pass rusher, and 2010 will be the year the team finally addresses this issue.

5) Dashon Goldson is going to have serious growing pains. While the board loves to bash Mark Roman (deservedly so in terms of forcing turnovers), Roman was a solid, steady and seasoned deep defender. Goldson gives playmaking ability, but expect a spike in deep home runs against the Niners. Spectacular versus steady. I'll take the risk on spectacular, but the Niners may need to visit the draft next season if Goldson does not work out.

6) Singletary, Raye, and company need time to get it all together. I expect the Niners will retain all of their main coaches (Sing, Manusky, Raye) for 2010, and that continuity is going to help us. This season, we are going to see the growing pains of transition, once again. A new OC means a new start again, and that typically spells trouble for a franchise that has not adapted well to the continual line of OC that spin through the team every year.

7) The Niners will have 2 first round selections next season. I believe the team will still need to draft some playmakers in 2010 (maybe a Will pass rusher, maybe a reliable TE, maybe a stable RT, maybe a stud FS). But, slowly, the amount of new talent needed to make a run is shrinking. The Niners appear to be set at virtually every position on offense (outside of RT, LG and maybe TE), and defense (Will, NT, maybe FS and CB). The club has wisely extended players to keep them from running away, and that bodes well down the road.

I could be wrong on my prediction for 2010. The Ghost of Mooch could be killed off in 2009. The curse of the Super Bowl loser ALWAYS kills off their victim (Cards better watch out), the Rams and Hawks appear weak. However, I just don't see this year as the year, and I hope fans do not become discouraged in 2009.

The run begins in 2010.

i hated reading this the 1st time around but you seem like a genious now Maddog....i don't want to see some our time is coming in 2011 thread though!

Agree

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The Death of the Ghost of Steve Mariucci is coming soon.

Since Mooch was fired at the end of the 2002 season (be careful what you ask for, fans), after winning a spectacular playoff game against the NY Giants (Yes, our last playoff win was nearly 7 years ago), the Niners have had 6 consecutive losing seasons, gone through 4 head coaches, 8 starting QB's: Garcia, Rattay, Dilfer, Dorsey, Pickett, Smith, Hill, O'Sullivan; 6 years running of new offensive coordinators: 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009. The parade of personnel is staggering.

The Niners seem to be building something we haven't seen since Mooch was canned, a winning season. And that day is coming soon...in 2010.

Many Niners fans expect the 2009 season to end of the Ghost of Mooch, but the team is not ready yet. Here is why?

1) The starting QB- This is the year the Niners find their starter, but we don't know who that person will be going into camp. Either Hill or Smith is going to emerge as unquestioned man to run the ship in 2010.

2) The Niners' WR's are still a year away. The team should see the emergence of Josh Morgan, but the other side of the field is not going to be permanently occupied and satisfied until Michael Crabtree becomes productive.

3) The Niners' OL will be fully ready to go in 2010. 2009 is an experiment at RT, and it could go many different directions. Either M. Smith could emerge as a healthy player who will lead the right side of our OL into 2010, or the Niners will install either a developmental player with upside (Boone, Bender) or use a draft choice.

4) The pass rush is not there, yet. The Manny Lawson experiment is ready to roll, and I'm hoping to be wrong in my prediction, but rushing the passer has never been Manny's strength (he is much better in coverage and running laterally), and I don't see anything to change my opinion at this point.

5) Dashon Goldson is going to have serious growing pains.

6) Singletary, Raye, and company need time to get it all together. I expect the Niners will retain all of their main coaches (Sing, Manusky, Raye) for 2010, and that continuity is going to help us.

7) The Niners will have 2 first round selections next season. I believe the team will still need to draft some playmakers in 2010 (maybe a Will pass rusher, maybe a reliable TE, maybe a stable RT, maybe a stud FS).

I could be wrong on my prediction for 2010.

The run begins in 2010.

Dayum.

He nailed nearly every single point.

Are we sure you really aren't NOSTRADAMUS???

Damn good MD.
Seeing how you were almost spot on last season, do you have any insight into this season? Just curious how you see things turning out this year.

[ Edited by AKfanster on Aug 18, 2010 at 20:44:45 ]

Originally posted by Roxy:

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The Death of the Ghost of Steve Mariucci is coming soon.

Since Mooch was fired at the end of the 2002 season (be careful what you ask for, fans), after winning a spectacular playoff game against the NY Giants (Yes, our last playoff win was nearly 7 years ago), the Niners have had 6 consecutive losing seasons, gone through 4 head coaches, 8 starting QB's: Garcia, Rattay, Dilfer, Dorsey, Pickett, Smith, Hill, O'Sullivan; 6 years running of new offensive coordinators: 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009. The parade of personnel is staggering.
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I always like reading your posts MadDog but I have issue with the fact that you say the fans wanted Mooch out. I remember myself and every fan I knew wondering why they got rid of Mooch, especially without a coherent plan for a replacement. York was the whipping boy in that fiasco...

Also, I don't think Cody Pickett was ever named the niners starter...he came in relief of an injured Rattay if I remember correctly, lasted a couple games, then rode the pine again

Thanks for the kind thoughts. There were a ton of fans who were more than happy to see Mooch leave. The thought was that the team had maxed out under his leadership, and that 10-6 seasons with first round exits in playoffs was not going to cut it.

Pickett started in that crazy windy game in Chicago. That was the game where Brandon Lloyd alligator armed a pass, then blamed Cody after. He did ride pine once Rattay returned.

Originally posted by AKfanster:
Damn good MD.
Seeing how you were almost spot on last season, do you have any insight into this season? Just curious how you see things turning out this year.

I see a struggle early in 2010, but a good finish. Probably 9-7, and winning the division. But, not pretty, and certainly not as good as I thought coming into the summer.

Too many issues on the OL are going to derail this team for the first month or two. Losing a center is huge for a team with a young OL.

[ Edited by MadDog49er on Aug 18, 2010 at 21:05:15 ]

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by gold49er2183:
man, it looks like the guy who posted this thread knew what he was talking about. I remember reading this last ear and just dismissing it.

Hang around here long enough and you will see more and more of MadDog, especially during draft time. Although controversial, he does offer insight and analysis that is usually superb.

I've been reading for a few years and read alot of his stuff. some was spot on some i didn't agree with but i guess it's just a matter of opinion

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by AKfanster:
Damn good MD.
Seeing how you were almost spot on last season, do you have any insight into this season? Just curious how you see things turning out this year.

I see a struggle early in 2010, but a good finish. Probably 9-7, and winning the division. But, not pretty, and certainly not as good as I thought coming into the summer.

Too many issues on the OL are going to derail this team for the first month or two.

That's my main concern also. Iupati seems solid, but Davis looks like he might have pass blocking issues. I noticed in 1 of the blogs that Boone got some time in at RT during the last practice. Good move IMO. IF Davis doesn't work out, the team NEEDS another option besides Snyder. Seems like the team has been looking for a decent RT for some time now. I doubt things will go smoothly this year on the line. Seems kinda wierd to have 2 decent LTs and big question marks at RT.

Good call on the team having issues for the first month or so. Niners have some tough games early in the year. The Hawks are always tough in Seattle. Saints on Monday night. East coast games in ATL and CAR, followed by the "home" game in London. Not to mention Philly, seems like we play them every year and every year they blow us out. The team could easily be 3-5 at the bye week.