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JTO Stats tonight: 10/13 149yds 1td
Total Preseason Stats: 19/24 249yds 2td 0int

FYI...

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by RedAndGold4Life:
Guys, Alex is another Rashaun (bigger let down of course; wish we would have gotten Rodgers)...lets move on and give Hill the rock and the job going forward...

He would have never held up to the beating that the QB took because of the terrible pass blocking. He is nowhere near as tough as Smith, he would have been a bigger bust due to injury.

And I'm sure musical coordinators would have done wonders for Rodgers as well.

Originally posted by TOP_CAT:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by TOP_CAT:
As almost all unbiased observers have know all along,Hill is much better than Alex and has won the starting job that was already his.
Alex should concentrate on getting better so that he can climb up to the level of a decent backup QB in the NFL. Right now Huard is much better than Alex and much more seasoned and reliable.
Hopefully Alex will have a great game this weekend and continue to work hard and someday he can actually earn the backup spot to Hill and then maybe to Davis. Anything further he acomplishes in his career is unexpected and welcome. But right now,as we expected,Hill won the so called competition in a walk and by a mile.
Go Niners ! ( that includes Smith and all the other players on the roster ,I am a fan of the team and not just one player and don't want smith to do poorly,just because I wanted Hill to be the starter ,as he so overwealmingly deserved).

Huard and Davis better than Smith Davis hasn't even thrown a pass in the NFL yet and you are already claiming he is better than Smith Smith doesn't need to improve to become a decent back up. He is probably one of the best back ups in the league. He needs to keep improving to re-earn his starting position that he was drafted for.

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If you would actually read what I wrote you would see that I did NOT say Davis IS better than Smith. But since you bring it up,Davis has much much much more talent than Smith. He is better in every way.But he is raw and will take at least a year before he is ready to step confidently on an NFL fiels. Smith still cannot step confidently on an NFL fiels because he is just a pretty bad player. Hopefully he improves and gets good enough to shine Huard's shoes (LOL,just kidding).
It is obvious for all who actually jknow anything and actually watch the games ,that Huard is much more seasoned and reliable and plays football better than Smith,by far. But smith is young and might surprise in the long run. Huard is too old to be around long. So Scotty is hoping smith will finallt have the light go on in his head and he MIGHT become at least a medioce NFL caliber backup. Anything else is just hope.
And as for Davis,you are obviously ignorant about him. He has everything anyone could ask for in tools to become a great one. Of course he must prove it on the field,we will see,as we have seen with smith,that either he will continue and reach his potential or he will faulter and not become what was hoped for (like smith).
But of course it is an undisputed fact that Davis is the only QB on the roster who has the potential to become the Franchise QB of the future. Hopefully for all of us fans,he comes through.

I watched Davis play in college, the kids a stud. He's got the whole package to become something very, very special QB. Great pick, and Top Cat, you're absolutely correct. Davis WILL BE a much better NFL QB than Smith ever will be.

Originally posted by abowers1984:
JTO Stats tonight: 10/13 149yds 1td
Total Preseason Stats: 19/24 249yds 2td 0int

FYI...

He looked good last preseason as well.

A whole lot that did for us.

-9fA

Originally posted by 49erWill:

Originally posted by abowers1984:
JTO Stats tonight: 10/13 149yds 1td
Total Preseason Stats: 19/24 249yds 2td 0int

FYI...

Good point...


Preseason stats don't mean much

I hear you and completely agree... just letting everyone know. But lets be honest, if he was doing poorly and throwing picks you would be throwing it in my face... Or if Smith put up numbers like this, all of his supporters would be pissing their pants on this site with 'I told you so's'.

Im really only curious to see how he performs in terms of the maintaining control of the football without Martz calling the plays... So far, he has been fairly impressive.

Originally posted by abowers1984:

Originally posted by 49erWill:

Originally posted by abowers1984:
JTO Stats tonight: 10/13 149yds 1td
Total Preseason Stats: 19/24 249yds 2td 0int

FYI...

Good point...


Preseason stats don't mean much

I hear you and completely agree... just letting everyone know. But lets be honest, if he was doing poorly and throwing picks you would be throwing it in my face... Or if Smith put up numbers like this, all of his supporters would be pissing their pants on this site with 'I told you so's'.

Im really only curious to see how he performs in terms of the maintaining control of the football without Martz calling the plays... So far, he has been fairly impressive.

Hill supporters would say the same thing if Hill was doing the same, so what's your point?

And yeah i agree with you on the last paragraph. I've also wondered how JT would do without Martz calling the plays. So far he hasn't done bad, but you gotta put it into perspective.

-9fA

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by abowers1984:
JTO Stats tonight: 10/13 149yds 1td
Total Preseason Stats: 19/24 249yds 2td 0int

FYI...

He looked good last preseason as well.

A whole lot that did for us.

-9fA

He actually really only had one good drive last preseason.

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by abowers1984:

Originally posted by 49erWill:

Originally posted by abowers1984:
JTO Stats tonight: 10/13 149yds 1td
Total Preseason Stats: 19/24 249yds 2td 0int

FYI...

Good point...


Preseason stats don't mean much

I hear you and completely agree... just letting everyone know. But lets be honest, if he was doing poorly and throwing picks you would be throwing it in my face... Or if Smith put up numbers like this, all of his supporters would be pissing their pants on this site with 'I told you so's'.

Im really only curious to see how he performs in terms of the maintaining control of the football without Martz calling the plays... So far, he has been fairly impressive.

Hill supporters would say the same thing if Hill was doing the same, so what's your point?

And yeah i agree with you on the last paragraph. I've also wondered how JT would do without Martz calling the plays. So far he hasn't done bad, but you gotta put it into perspective.

-9fA

I was just responding to 49erWill's contention that the preseason doesnt matter at all... Just stating that had any QB on the 9ers performed like this, that players supporters would most certainly celebrate.

I just feel that Smith's bandwagon might be a bit more ecstatic because to this point, all they've had to support their arguments are excuses as to why he has yet to perform like a starting caliber QB.

Originally posted by abowers1984:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by abowers1984:

Originally posted by 49erWill:

Originally posted by abowers1984:
JTO Stats tonight: 10/13 149yds 1td
Total Preseason Stats: 19/24 249yds 2td 0int

FYI...

Good point...


Preseason stats don't mean much

I hear you and completely agree... just letting everyone know. But lets be honest, if he was doing poorly and throwing picks you would be throwing it in my face... Or if Smith put up numbers like this, all of his supporters would be pissing their pants on this site with 'I told you so's'.

Im really only curious to see how he performs in terms of the maintaining control of the football without Martz calling the plays... So far, he has been fairly impressive.

Hill supporters would say the same thing if Hill was doing the same, so what's your point?

And yeah i agree with you on the last paragraph. I've also wondered how JT would do without Martz calling the plays. So far he hasn't done bad, but you gotta put it into perspective.

-9fA

I was just responding to 49erWill's contention that the preseason doesnt matter at all... Just stating that had any QB on the 9ers performed like this, that players supporters would most certainly celebrate.

I just feel that Smith's bandwagon might be a bit more ecstatic because to this point, all they've had to support their arguments are excuses as to why he has yet to perform like a starting caliber QB.

Actually I think Smith has performed extremely well. Most people dismissed the idea of Alex even being competitive during the competition. Some even believe that he is the worse player to ever put on a niner uniform. But even in the face of extremely harsh criticism, Smith has been almost on par with Shuan Hill, forcing the competition to last this far into preseason. Not bad for a guy who basically hasn't played in almost 2 years. Especially against a guy who many believe is light years ahead him.

I'm just happy knowing that the better QB is going to be named the starter. Shaun Hill will do a great job. However, I guarantee you that Alex Smith will be the 49ers starting QB sometime within the next 2 years. For what ever reason.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by RedAndGold4Life:
Guys, Alex is another Rashaun (bigger let down of course; wish we would have gotten Rodgers)...lets move on and give Hill the rock and the job going forward...

He would have never held up to the beating that the QB took because of the terrible pass blocking. He is nowhere near as tough as Smith, he would have been a bigger bust due to injury.

Wow that's a pretty biased answer if I ever seen one.

Originally posted by yoyo49:

Originally posted by abowers1984:

Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:

Originally posted by abowers1984:

Originally posted by 49erWill:

Originally posted by abowers1984:
JTO Stats tonight: 10/13 149yds 1td
Total Preseason Stats: 19/24 249yds 2td 0int

FYI...

Good point...


Preseason stats don't mean much

I hear you and completely agree... just letting everyone know. But lets be honest, if he was doing poorly and throwing picks you would be throwing it in my face... Or if Smith put up numbers like this, all of his supporters would be pissing their pants on this site with 'I told you so's'.

Im really only curious to see how he performs in terms of the maintaining control of the football without Martz calling the plays... So far, he has been fairly impressive.

Hill supporters would say the same thing if Hill was doing the same, so what's your point?

And yeah i agree with you on the last paragraph. I've also wondered how JT would do without Martz calling the plays. So far he hasn't done bad, but you gotta put it into perspective.

-9fA

I was just responding to 49erWill's contention that the preseason doesnt matter at all... Just stating that had any QB on the 9ers performed like this, that players supporters would most certainly celebrate.

I just feel that Smith's bandwagon might be a bit more ecstatic because to this point, all they've had to support their arguments are excuses as to why he has yet to perform like a starting caliber QB.

Actually I think Smith has performed extremely well. Most people dismissed the idea of Alex even being competitive during the competition. Some even believe that he is the worse player to ever put on a niner uniform. But even in the face of extremely harsh criticism, Smith has been almost on par with Shuan Hill, forcing the competition to last this far into preseason. Not bad for a guy who basically hasn't played in almost 2 years. Especially against a guy who many believe is light years ahead him.

I'm just happy knowing that the better QB is going to be named the starter. Shaun Hill will do a great job. However, I guarantee you that Alex Smith will be the 49ers starting QB sometime within the next 2 years. For what ever reason.

I could not agree more!

So going into this weekends game vs the Raiders (and post Napa practices), it seems as if Shaun Hill is starting to take control of the job.

As soon as this game on Saturday is done, I'm hoping Singletary names Hill the starter and we can all move on.

I don't see any scenario (other than a Hill injury) in which Smith will move past Hill on the depth chart. IMO, this "competition" was simply to light a fire under Hill. Again, IMO, it's not nearly as close as it's being broadcast.

What I'm interested in is seeing Smith vs. Huard. I still honestly believe that Huard is our best option to backup Hill. Huard is a veteran who has been successful at the NFL level (on a sorry team, mind you).

People might think I'm just hating on Smith but I'm just calling it like I see it. This game will reveal a lot more in the Smith vs. Huard debate, though.

Originally posted by Leathaface:
So going into this weekends game vs the Raiders (and post Napa practices), it seems as if Shaun Hill is starting to take control of the job.

As soon as this game on Saturday is done, I'm hoping Singletary names Hill the starter and we can all move on.

I don't see any scenario (other than a Hill injury) in which Smith will move past Hill on the depth chart. IMO, this "competition" was simply to light a fire under Hill. Again, IMO, it's not nearly as close as it's being broadcast.

What I'm interested in is seeing Smith vs. Huard. I still honestly believe that Huard is our best option to backup Hill. Huard is a veteran who has been successful at the NFL level (on a sorry team, mind you).

People might think I'm just hating on Smith but I'm just calling it like I see it. This game will reveal a lot more in the Smith vs. Huard debate, though.

I agree that if Smith doesn't make any huge significant strides, then it's time for Singletary to name Hill the starter for the benefit of the rest of the offense.

I absolutely disagree with your assertion that Singletary only has the quarterback competition to light a fire under Hill. And how do you know that "it's not nearly as close as it's being broadcast". Really? I want to know. Special press pass? Or do you think that BOTH of the Matt's are simply lying?

While you may think that Huard may be a better backup to Hill, i'm sure as hell glad that Singletary doesn't see it that way......

-9fA

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by RedAndGold4Life:
Guys, Alex is another Rashaun (bigger let down of course; wish we would have gotten Rodgers)...lets move on and give Hill the rock and the job going forward...

He would have never held up to the beating that the QB took because of the terrible pass blocking. He is nowhere near as tough as Smith, he would have been a bigger bust due to injury.

Wow that's a pretty biased answer if I ever seen one.

I'd agree preseason stats don't mean a lot...but leadership and consistency do. That's where Hill has an advantage over Alex...getting rid of the ball quickly, making good decisions, and being "the guy" in the huddle are important. I can appreciate how far Alex has come...but, I don't think it's far enough to be the starter. He's still too indecisive, holds the ball too long, and overall just isn't in control consistently enough. He's got a better arm than Hill...but that's not enough. Hill's no gazelle out there, but still makes plays on a consistent basis. He's also not afraid to tuck the ball under his arm and run with it. I keep flashing back to that game in Arizona...where he made that tough run, got his 1st down, and pumped up the whole team with his effort. He's a gritty QB...and the guy we need under C.