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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Sam Darnold is 25, same age as a rookie QB just taken in the draft, so this isn't some old guy here.. do we dare go into the subject of brain plasticity
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Sam Darnold is 25, same age as a rookie QB just taken in the draft, so this isn't some old guy here.. do we dare go into the subject of brain plasticity
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Sam Darnold is 25, same age as a rookie QB just taken in the draft, so this isn't some old guy here.. do we dare go into the subject of brain plasticity
Yeah his brain has been programmed to be bad at quarterbacking for years. That s**t is ingrained into him at this point. Geno played to yrs of football in 2013-2014 and didn't play meaningful football until 2022.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Geno spent years in the system. He didn't go from Jets to starter.
You undervalue the negative effects that bad habits and coaching have. It takes work to get through all of that. It's not show up somewhere else and it's instantly gone.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I'm certainly no huge Jimmy guy but it's pretty disrespectful to his play to say Sam can walk in and do what Jimmy was doing last year out the cold. Jimmy was in year 6 of the offense.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
lol programmed to be bad, what is this man?
when the play is blocked up nicely and the guys are running open it's simple stuff, don't need 'years of unprogramming' to hit open dudes while protected
ball out quick let Deebo do his thing, we aren't asking him to play hero ball
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
who cares about year 6, his best ball was fresh off the plane winging it, right?
he was here a week and balling out of his mind
Sam will have much more time to get acclimated than JG did, he will have a proper offseason
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
who cares about year 6, his best ball was fresh off the plane winging it, right?
he was here a week and balling out of his mind
Sam will have much more time to get acclimated than JG did, he will have a proper offseason
"I don't think Sam ever said, 'Hey, my offensive line has got to do a better job' " Lyons said. " 'My receivers have to catch it.' Sam stood up. He took the heat. He stood up for his teammates. He stood up for himself. He took ownership. There were a lot of things out of his control, but he didn't point the finger at anybody but himself. That's the type of guy that I want to see be successful."
There has been optimism that the strong-armed Darnold, 25, could realize his draft-day promise with the 49ers, who offer a strong supporting cast that he's lacked throughout a five-season career spent with the Jets and Panthers (combined record: 25-57).
Darnold has played for five offensive coordinators, four head coaches and three position coaches and has never played with an offensive teammate who was named a first- or second-team All-Pro. The 49ers have four offensive players who have earned All-Pro honors since 2019.
Hall of Fame QB Steve Young recently said, in a text, that he was also bullish on Darnold and praised him for declining more lucrative offers to accept a one-year, $4.5 million deal with the 49ers.
"He's so smart to take a pay cut and sign here," Young said.
"Sam is not one of those guys you look at and you go 'Bust,' " Lyons said. "He's a quality individual with a great deal of integrity and football knowledge. It just didn't work out here. And everyone can point to reasons why. … It doesn't mean he's a bad player. It means this was the wrong setting for him to show the potential he had."
Darnold flashed glimmers of his potential during last year's season-ending stretch with the Panthers. Carolina went 4-2 and Darnold posted a 92.6 passer rating while not throwing an interception in his first 105 attempts.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Sam Darnold is 25, same age as a rookie QB just taken in the draft, so this isn't some old guy here.. do we dare go into the subject of brain plasticity
Age isn't relevant. If you are taught bad habits for multiple years it'll take time to unlearn it. Took Steve multiple years.
If Darnold had to start week 1 we'd have to find a way to win around him. Next years week 1 could be a different story.
Originally posted by tankle104:
See I feel that same way about Lance, except not him unlearning stuff, but learning stuff.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by tankle104:
See I feel that same way about Lance, except not him unlearning stuff, but learning stuff.
Its easier to learn new things when you don't have bad habits. Darnold has to learn the offense too. But he also has to unlearn his negative habits.
Though to be fair it wouldn't be my expectation that Trey would easily equal what Jimmy was doing last year week 1.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by tankle104:
See I feel that same way about Lance, except not him unlearning stuff, but learning stuff.
Its easier to learn new things when you don't have bad habits. Darnold has to learn the offense too. But he also has to unlearn his negative habits.
Though to be fair it wouldn't be my expectation that Trey would easily equal what Jimmy was doing last year week 1.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by tankle104:
See I feel that same way about Lance, except not him unlearning stuff, but learning stuff.
Its easier to learn new things when you don't have bad habits. Darnold has to learn the offense too. But he also has to unlearn his negative habits.
Though to be fair it wouldn't be my expectation that Trey would easily equal what Jimmy was doing last year week 1.
This. It's the opposite overall.
sam has to unlearn years of bad habits. He's got to fix his s**t footwork and at this point his throwing motion is what it is. I expect him to just look better due to scheme and roster. That's not gonna make him a better overall QB though. He's not gonna magically not do s**t like this just because he's here
