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  • thl408
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Darnold could be another Blaine Gabbert. Good physical tools, drafted to a bad situation, getting second chances because of his draft pedigree. Gabbert must be an amazing teammate to last this long in the league while being meh. Let's see if Darnold can do the same.

Gabbert was fine, thing with Gabbert when he joined us it was a clown car at that time, he was playing in the Tomsula / Chip Kelly era
this is 1000x different in terms of talent around, coaching staff, etc.

Gabbert was fine? Would you say his career thus far justifies him being selected 10th overall? Nope. He's busty, similar to Darnold.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Darnold could be another Blaine Gabbert. Good physical tools, drafted to a bad situation, getting second chances because of his draft pedigree. Gabbert must be an amazing teammate to last this long in the league while being meh. Let's see if Darnold can do the same.

Gabbert was fine, thing with Gabbert when he joined us it was a clown car at that time, he was playing in the Tomsula / Chip Kelly era
this is 1000x different in terms of talent around, coaching staff, etc.

Gabbert was fine? Would you say his career thus far justifies him being selected 10th overall? Nope. He's busty, similar to Darnold.

I mean fine for our purposes, he did fine here.. we didn't invest the top 10 pick. Doubtless they are both busts for their original squads.

I don't see the comp between a guy QBing dark ages 49er teams, that's night and day vs what we have now with Darnold, I do think QB play is majorly impacted by talent around said QB, so I see these as two different situations.
[ Edited by 49erFaithful6 on May 8, 2023 at 9:43 AM ]
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Darnold could be another Blaine Gabbert. Good physical tools, drafted to a bad situation, getting second chances because of his draft pedigree. Gabbert must be an amazing teammate to last this long in the league while being meh. Let's see if Darnold can do the same.

Gabbert was fine, thing with Gabbert when he joined us it was a clown car at that time, he was playing in the Tomsula / Chip Kelly era
this is 1000x different in terms of talent around, coaching staff, etc.

Gabbert was fine? Would you say his career thus far justifies him being selected 10th overall? Nope. He's busty, similar to Darnold.

I mean fine for our purposes, he did fine here.. we didn't invest the top 10 pick. Doubtless they are both busts for their original squads.

got it.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Darnold could be another Blaine Gabbert. Good physical tools, drafted to a bad situation, getting second chances because of his draft pedigree. Gabbert must be an amazing teammate to last this long in the league while being meh. Let's see if Darnold can do the same.

Gabbert was fine, thing with Gabbert when he joined us it was a clown car at that time, he was playing in the Tomsula / Chip Kelly era
this is 1000x different in terms of talent around, coaching staff, etc.

Gabbert was fine? Would you say his career thus far justifies him being selected 10th overall? Nope. He's busty, similar to Darnold.

Hopefully, because Sam has still plenty of future time ahead of him, found his place and become successful as an above average quarterback with us. Blaine, I think, has missed his train already.
Originally posted by 49erF90:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Darnold could be another Blaine Gabbert. Good physical tools, drafted to a bad situation, getting second chances because of his draft pedigree. Gabbert must be an amazing teammate to last this long in the league while being meh. Let's see if Darnold can do the same.

Gabbert was fine, thing with Gabbert when he joined us it was a clown car at that time, he was playing in the Tomsula / Chip Kelly era
this is 1000x different in terms of talent around, coaching staff, etc.

Gabbert was fine? Would you say his career thus far justifies him being selected 10th overall? Nope. He's busty, similar to Darnold.

Hopefully, because Sam has still plenty of future time ahead of him, found his place and become successful as an above average quarterback with us. Blaine, I think, has missed his train already.

Blaine did great he got a ring I believe and many millions of dollars and will retire at like 35 he's doing just fine in my book
if you mean missed his chance to be a starter going forward, most likely so, Sam still has the chance at his age, I agree
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Ny, we had a CAR firesale thread last season, so the franchise was shedding coaches, QBs, talent, you name it. They were giving up midseason. I wouldn't mind facing a team like that with Brock at the helm or Lance, would be licking my chops so to speak.

You have to calculate the difference between playing QB in that mess and playing here with HOF LT, AP TE, two #1 WR, CMC, Shanny, etc. When you run that calculation you see Sam is playing the best ball of his career here. Gore says you will be shocked NY, shocked. This guy has way more experience than BP and TL combined.

He could be our guy this season.

Dude he played in NC more than one year. Why do people constantly forget this? He all but lost the starting gig to Baker this off season, then shocker got hurt.

HE is a massive part of multiple coaches getting fired. Not a single person in here would be afraid to play Sam f**king Darnold anywhere. Years of s**t play. Years of being statistically the worst starting QB in the league! Nate Peterman is more experienced than BCB and TL. Who gives a s**t. When you have enough opportunities to play well and continue to stink that's your fault…not everyone else around you.

Lol you say all that BS to kiss Sam's ass (look who he played with), then when I bring up one game for Lance where the whole team sucked and we had hurt players and you poo poo that s**t. Hypocrite.

I don't care what Gore says. It's his buddy…they played together. We have YEARS of film showing horrible QB play. s**t that has nothing to do with the everyone else….it's not the WRs fault you can't see the field. It's not the coaches fault when you miss reads and are wildly inaccurate. It's not the RBs fault your mechanics have never improved. f**king excuses man. Just stop it. Be wayyyyy different if he hadn't played football and was just starting his career.
Originally posted by thl408:
Gabbert was fine? Would you say his career thus far justifies him being selected 10th overall? Nope. He's busty, similar to Darnold.

Lol dude is trying to prop up Gabbert to talk up Sam 😂
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Ny, we had a CAR firesale thread last season, so the franchise was shedding coaches, QBs, talent, you name it. They were giving up midseason. I wouldn't mind facing a team like that with Brock at the helm or Lance, would be licking my chops so to speak.

You have to calculate the difference between playing QB in that mess and playing here with HOF LT, AP TE, two #1 WR, CMC, Shanny, etc. When you run that calculation you see Sam is playing the best ball of his career here. Gore says you will be shocked NY, shocked. This guy has way more experience than BP and TL combined.

He could be our guy this season.

Dude he played in NC more than one year. Why do people constantly forget this? He all but lost the starting gig to Baker this off season, then shocker got hurt.

HE is a massive part of multiple coaches getting fired. Not a single person in here would be afraid to play Sam f**king Darnold anywhere. Years of s**t play. Years of being statistically the worst starting QB in the league! Nate Peterman is more experienced than BCB and TL. Who gives a s**t. When you have enough opportunities to play well and continue to stink that's your fault…not everyone else around you.

Lol you say all that BS to kiss Sam's ass (look who he played with), then when I bring up one game for Lance where the whole team sucked and we had hurt players and you poo poo that s**t. Hypocrite.

I don't care what Gore says. It's his buddy…they played together. We have YEARS of film showing horrible QB play. s**t that has nothing to do with the everyone else….it's not the WRs fault you can't see the field. It's not the coaches fault when you miss reads and are wildly inaccurate. It's not the RBs fault your mechanics have never improved. f**king excuses man. Just stop it. Be wayyyyy different if he hadn't played football and was just starting his career.

NY, you are off base here. TL vs CHI had Trent and Deebo with Shanny dialing up plays. That's 10x better than anything Darnold has had. Pretty sure Gase was getting canned swift and hard with or without Darnold, you think this guy needed help getting canned?:



i don't think he's even in football anymore, compare him to KS for a sec
imagine TL with a clown coach like this for a sec, guy who has no respect in his own locker room, Darnold has had jokers like that his whole career
just heard someone stat that Sam has 90 combine fumbles/INTs in 56 starts WTF
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NY, you are off base here. TL vs CHI had Trent and Deebo with Shanny dialing up plays. That's 10x better than anything Darnold has had. Pretty sure Gase was getting canned swift and hard with or without Darnold, you think this guy needed help getting canned?:



i don't think he's even in football anymore, compare him to KS for a sec
imagine TL with a clown coach like this for a sec, guy who has no respect in his own locker room, Darnold has had jokers like that his whole career

He has Deebo who fumbled the ball in the RZ. He had Trent who got burned for a sack from a day 3 rookie. A totally different IOL that played like trash. Stop the horse s**t, we all saw the game. The TEAM stunk.

sam has been benched multiple times for Baker, one armed Newton and PJ Walker 😂 There isn't a damn thing you can say that will change anything about Sam and his s**t play. He blows. Period. 90 combined INTs and fumbles in 56 career games.

Quit trying so hard….only person off base here is you.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
just heard someone stat that Sam has 90 combine fumbles/INTs in 56 starts WTF

Never a dull moment, amirite?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
just heard someone stat that Sam has 90 combine fumbles/INTs in 56 starts WTF

again NY, you don't factor anywhere the situation he is in
KS said what you won't say, that he was in bad situations and had to play catch up on poor teams, with no talent, bad coaching, and that's when that stuff happens
gotta throw your way back into the game, or try to

looking at JG he has 72 in 57 starts
Darnold has 55 starts

so it's maybe 18 TO difference maybe additional .32 turnovers per game, and you see the difference between our guy in our situation, and a guy with a bad situation, KS will help get that number down here, no question.. look at Alex turnovers as soon as JH got here, he turned it around so hard he darn near led the NFL. Do you not believe in KS or our team to help with these numbers?
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
just heard someone stat that Sam has 90 combine fumbles/INTs in 56 starts WTF

again NY, you don't factor anywhere the situation he is in
KS said what you won't say, that he was in bad situations and had to play catch up on poor teams, with no talent, bad coaching, and that's when that stuff happens
gotta throw your way back into the game, or try to

looking at JG he has 72 in 57 starts
Darnold has 55 starts

so it's maybe 18 TO difference maybe additional .32 turnovers per game, and you see the difference between our guy in our situation, and a guy with a bad situation, KS will help get that number down here, no question.. look at Alex turnovers as soon as JH got here, he turned it around so hard he darn near led the NFL. Do you not believe in KS or our team to help with these numbers?

But up until 2022, Jimmy was known as a QB that turned the ball over a lot. His high int % remained relatively consistent every year he was here (until 2022) despite the talent improving around him. Why are we assuming Darnold's turnover % will go down now that he's surrounded by better coaching and talent when that wasn't really the case for Jimmy?
[ Edited by 49ersRing on May 8, 2023 at 11:37 AM ]
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Darnold could be another Blaine Gabbert. Good physical tools, drafted to a bad situation, getting second chances because of his draft pedigree. Gabbert must be an amazing teammate to last this long in the league while being meh. Let's see if Darnold can do the same.

Gabbert was fine, thing with Gabbert when he joined us it was a clown car at that time, he was playing in the Tomsula / Chip Kelly era
this is 1000x different in terms of talent around, coaching staff, etc.

Gabbert was fine? Would you say his career thus far justifies him being selected 10th overall? Nope. He's busty, similar to Darnold.

**Researches busty Gabbert in pronhub**
  • thl408
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Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by thl408:
Darnold could be another Blaine Gabbert. Good physical tools, drafted to a bad situation, getting second chances because of his draft pedigree. Gabbert must be an amazing teammate to last this long in the league while being meh. Let's see if Darnold can do the same.

Gabbert was fine, thing with Gabbert when he joined us it was a clown car at that time, he was playing in the Tomsula / Chip Kelly era
this is 1000x different in terms of talent around, coaching staff, etc.

Gabbert was fine? Would you say his career thus far justifies him being selected 10th overall? Nope. He's busty, similar to Darnold.

**Researches busty Gabbert in pronhub**

If nothing turns up for that, try "Busty Big Cock Brock"
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