Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by genus49:
Trey Lance is Josh Freeman huh? Gotta love this place.

Aactually not a bad comparison at all. Two big, raw, strong armed guys with goofy hair who are struggled to adjust to the league.

Let's look past the terrible grammar there and dig into the part where you think Lance has struggled to adjust to the league before even getting through his first preseason?

Would love to hear more on why you think he's struggling…

oh and goofy hair?

Judging from his performance in his first preseason game and the reports from writers and fans. It appears that he's lost.

You dont have to take it personal. It's just a football team and I'm assuming you have no relation to Trey. Freeman had outstanding measurables and checked all the boxes, he just couldn't put it together, it's not a bad comp.

Appears he's lost? Post one report from anyone credible that "he's lost"

Freeman didn't check all the boxes which is why he was drafted and considered a reach at 17 in a pretty weak draft. Freeman was a size/arm guy who wasn't anywhere close to Lance in terms of impact. And as mentioned before had issues off the field which impacted his football play more than his talent.

Lance showed he still has to improve on some things after playing one game in 17 months or whatever it was and he did it vs a very good and deep NFL team. How did Kyler Murray look against them? Arizona couldn't do squat against them until the 4th quarter when their 3rd/4th stringers were out there. Lance burned them with some starters still out there.

Pretending that he's lost is a crazy take to make. And given your hair comment it screams of something really pathetic.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Anyword yet on how many reps Jimmy and Trey will be getting?

Shanny hasn't said anything yet - should be saying something shortly.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by elguapo:
In my opinion, I have always stated that Lance is like a more accurate Cam Newton. Also, does the narrative change if 3 to 4 drops by receivers didn't occur? Then his numbers would be pretty accurate as well? Maybe some of you people didn't even watch the first preseason game when he was getting bum rushed every single time and had multiple drops.

Anyways, with his running ability alone he should eventually make us at the minimum a perennial playoff team and with the improved weapons on offense (and Shanahan's scheming) we should be top 5 or close to it every year.

Cam Newton is as thick as a LB. I just don't see the comparison there. Im hoping Lance is a great passer who can run well when all else fails, not just a good passer who runs through defenses regularly.

Doesn't hurt when you can do this right out the gate

Trey getting a ton of run with the first team. pic.twitter.com/Dbra15MbXu

— Jason Aponte (@JasonAponte2103) August 20, 2021

I expect kyle to get him some easy throws first read stuff (much like Jimmy has gotten) early in his career.

Originally posted by thl408:
For real. Shotgun snap + 5 step drop + 3 hitches. That's not realistic.

3 hitches? Where?

Originally posted by DaManRathman:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
You should really just find out where Mac lives and try to bed down with him.

Did you hear one time Mac Jones threw for like 100+ yards against the eagles 4th string D in a preseason game? One one play he moved up in the pocket and completed a 7 yard pass. YouTube it if you don't believe me

JC Penney is coming to New England because of Mac Jones. You ask anybody, they'll tell you

I know a Road House fan when I see one.

My man

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by elguapo:
In my opinion, I have always stated that Lance is like a more accurate Cam Newton. Also, does the narrative change if 3 to 4 drops by receivers didn't occur? Then his numbers would be pretty accurate as well? Maybe some of you people didn't even watch the first preseason game when he was getting bum rushed every single time and had multiple drops.

Anyways, with his running ability alone he should eventually make us at the minimum a perennial playoff team and with the improved weapons on offense (and Shanahan's scheming) we should be top 5 or close to it every year.

Yeah I mean toss prime Cam on this roster with shanny and your constantly in the playoffs and beyond…I think Lance has the ability to be a better pocket passer than Cam…he just needs snaps and the allowance to f**k up every once in a while, because it's gonna happen…s**t go look at the great Manning YR1. Lance can cover some of those mental miscues early in his career by using his god given ability to help move the ball. Shanny knows he has that in his back pocket and it will be showcased early into his career.

fans need to be okay with this or not and b***h & throw out lame ass comps of failed QBs that have "goofy hair" because they want to be right on a fan forum

I think Trey immediately makes us a deep playoff contender every year (that means at least 1 game further than the Seahawks )

Hell, Manning threw for a rookie record 28 ints. However the yards and tds made it a little more acceptable. All Trey needs to do is have around 1 turnover or less per game while his running ability will more than make up for his lack of production in other areas like passing yards or tds. The fact that Trey is really careful with the ball compared to a lot of other turnover prone wb while having the ability to make/extend plays with his mobility should make all of us

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Anyword yet on how many reps Jimmy and Trey will be getting?

Shanny hasn't said anything yet - should be saying something shortly.

any new updates on this?

Originally posted by Heed49er:
Don't think anyone ever trucked N'gata. As I recall RG3 was actually off his feet when they collided & the leg just kind of whipped around N'gata's mass

As much as Wilson annoys the s**t out of me, he seems to have QB scrambles, runs, & protective moves down to a science.

I think the league needs to do something about Wilson. He always does that pretend slide thing where he half goes down half goes for an extra yard. Draws a penalty all the time and it's complete bs. He needs to just go down or take the hit like a man. God I hate that midget.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
they are butchering trey lance on the radio right now. saying he cant operate from the pocket and the niners already have buyers remorse, utter insanity

Then they are really dumb. Trey Lance has thrown 445 passes. TOTAL. In his ENTIRE LIFE, including high school. He is as inexperienced as you can possibly get.

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/trey-lance/lPQUTiRQEeS00gAmVebEWg/football/stats.htm

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/trey-lance-1.html

People need to calm the f**k down. Despite being so incredibly inexperienced (Jimmy threw more passes in 2019 than Trey has in his entire life), he still is — right now — almost as good as Jimmy is in total. In a year or two he will be very, very good, if he continues his trajectory.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
they are butchering trey lance on the radio right now. saying he cant operate from the pocket and the niners already have buyers remorse, utter insanity

Then they are really dumb. Trey Lance has thrown 445 passes. TOTAL. In his ENTIRE LIFE, including High School. He is as inexperienced as you can possibly get.

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/trey-lance/lPQUTiRQEeS00gAmVebEWg/football/stats.htm

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/trey-lance-1.html

People need to calm the f**k down. Despite being so incredibly inexperienced (Jimmy threw more passes in 2019 than Trey has in his entire life), he still is — right now — almost as good as Jimmy is in total. In a year or two he will be very, very good, if he continues his trajectory.

Lol I think both sides are hilarious. Trey is already a bust on one end of the overreacting spectrum and Trey is almost as good as Jimmy on the other side over 445 passes and one decent preseason outing

Originally posted by tohara3:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by elguapo:
In my opinion, I have always stated that Lance is like a more accurate Cam Newton. Also, does the narrative change if 3 to 4 drops by receivers didn't occur? Then his numbers would be pretty accurate as well? Maybe some of you people didn't even watch the first preseason game when he was getting bum rushed every single time and had multiple drops.

Anyways, with his running ability alone he should eventually make us at the minimum a perennial playoff team and with the improved weapons on offense (and Shanahan's scheming) we should be top 5 or close to it every year.

Cam Newton is as thick as a LB. I just don't see the comparison there. Im hoping Lance is a great passer who can run well when all else fails, not just a good passer who runs through defenses regularly.

Doesn't hurt when you can do this right out the gate

Trey getting a ton of run with the first team. pic.twitter.com/Dbra15MbXu

— Jason Aponte (@JasonAponte2103) August 20, 2021

I expect kyle to get him some easy throws first read stuff (much like Jimmy has gotten) early in his career.

Didn't he only get like 8 snaps with the 1's and 5 of them were designed runs?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
they are butchering trey lance on the radio right now. saying he cant operate from the pocket and the niners already have buyers remorse, utter insanity

Then they are really dumb. Trey Lance has thrown 445 passes. TOTAL. In his ENTIRE LIFE, including high school. He is as inexperienced as you can possibly get.

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/trey-lance/lPQUTiRQEeS00gAmVebEWg/football/stats.htm

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/trey-lance-1.html

People need to calm the f**k down. Despite being so incredibly inexperienced (Jimmy threw more passes in 2019 than Trey has in his entire life), he still is — right now — almost as good as Jimmy is in total. In a year or two he will be very, very good, if he continues his trajectory.

This isn't a pro-Jimmy or Trey angle but how exactly do you define this and come to this conclusion at this stage?

Originally posted by NCommand:
This isn't a pro-Jimmy or Trey angle but how exactly do you define this and come to this conclusion at this stage?

You can only judge based on what we have seen in TC/preseason. And what we've seen is the same ol Jimmy: throwing picks, throwing mostly short. In other words, just an average NFL QB.

To think Trey will become a little better than average isn't hard to imagine

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
they are butchering trey lance on the radio right now. saying he cant operate from the pocket and the niners already have buyers remorse, utter insanity

Then they are really dumb. Trey Lance has thrown 445 passes. TOTAL. In his ENTIRE LIFE, including high school. He is as inexperienced as you can possibly get.

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/trey-lance/lPQUTiRQEeS00gAmVebEWg/football/stats.htm

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/trey-lance-1.html

People need to calm the f**k down. Despite being so incredibly inexperienced (Jimmy threw more passes in 2019 than Trey has in his entire life), he still is — right now — almost as good as Jimmy is in total. In a year or two he will be very, very good, if he continues his trajectory.

This isn't a pro-Jimmy or Trey angle but how exactly do you define this and come to this conclusion at this stage?

I find it quite alarming we traded the capital we did to draft the most inexperienced qb, maybe of all time, coming in to the draft.
I am baffled as to how one thinks he is as good as Jimmy now.

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by NCommand:
This isn't a pro-Jimmy or Trey angle but how exactly do you define this and come to this conclusion at this stage?

You can only judge based on what we have seen in TC/preseason. And what we've seen is the same ol Jimmy: throwing picks, throwing mostly short. In other words, just an average NFL QB.

To think Trey will become a little better than average isn't hard to imagine

We haven't seen Trey be able to complete simple passes consistently yet so no, he is not near Jimmy's level yet.