Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

i've missed this exchange until now and now i'm dead reading this one

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
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Trey Lance wasn't brought in to compete for the backup role, he was brought into replace Justin Herbert as the starter either during this or next offseason.

It's obvious based on Justin Herbert not being Jim Harbaugh's guy; he didn't draft Herbert or give him his big contract extension. And the major tip off is him bringing in Greg Roman, a pass game idiot but run game savant, as the offensive coordinator.

Last year the Chargers passed for 510 times vs. running for 463 times. Roman's philosophy is to do the opposite, preferring to run it 525 times to 425 passes, with the QB accounting for 125 carries on read options, power, and counters.

That's why they invested in high priced free agents RG Mekhi Becton and RB Najee Harris. Last year, Becton's 6'7" 364 lb frame allowed the Eagles to lead the league in ball carrier 1st contact at 2.2 yards past the line of scrimmage.

Having Trey Lance at QB will allow the Chargers to duplicate the Eagles' SB winning formula (they still gotta up their pass rush though), and let Roman enjoy doing what he does best.

Herbert is a golden boy franchise QB with an elite arm and good mobility, but for all his gaudy stats, he's never won the Division and is 0-2 in the playoffs. In the 2022 season, he blew a 27-0 lead against the Jags, and most recently put up a 4 int 44% pass completion stinker against the Texans.

In fairness, his 4 int performance was due to a lingering high ankle sprain and plantar fasciitis, which prevented him from properly stepping into throws or scrambling for big gains, but he still has a pattern of choking in big games.

In 2021, he dropped a must win game to make the playoffs against a 3-10 Texans team. In that game he threw for 1 td and 2 ints.

Coincidentally, a week later, a rookie Trey Lance would also face the Texans in a must win game, we all know the outcome, a season saving W while throwing for 2 tds and 1 int.

So trading Herbert wouldn't be like Luka to the Lakers.

The Chargers' fanbase won't like it and sports media will be outraged, but no one can question Harbaugh's decision making regarding QBs given that he's developed Andrew Luck, revived Alex Smith, harnessed Kaepernick's explosive playmaking, and discovered JJ McCarthy.

When Trey Lance faced Harbaugh in the preseason, he put up an impressive stat line of 33 of 49 (67.3%) passes for 323 yards 1 td and 8 runs for 90 yards.

Unfortunately, the media focus was on his FIVE INTERCEPTIONS, but Harbaugh is apparently more concerned with 4 interceptions being thrown in the postseason than 5 in the preseason, as he should be.

And Trey's haters seem to ignore that he did play well overall last preseason, completing 73 of 113 passes (64.6%) for 662 yards 2 tds 5 ints, while also running 24 times for 168 yards (7.0 yards average) and 2 tds.

Here's a link to a great breakdown of the game where he faced Harbaugh.



He had also looked good against the Commanders starting defense in week 18, going 20-34 (59%) 244 yards 0 tds 0 ints. He did miss a wide open receiver in the end zone on a 4th down play that Purdy would have completed 10 out of 10 times, but it was a good outing overall.

But the most important part is that he had 147 passing reps in both preseason and regular season with a completion rate of 63%, a couple more completions and it would be 65%. It shows that the work he's put in with Jeff Christensen is paying off.

He's clearly ready, whatever rough edges that remain in his game will be smoothed out by Harbaugh's tutelage and more reps.

Now getting back to Herbert, besides being a poor scheme fit, there's also the issue of his salary. The QB has a cap hit of $37 .3 million (13.38% team cap) in 2025; $46.3 million (15.75% team cap) in 2026; $58.3 million (18.53%) in 2027; $71.1 million (21.11%) in 2028.

Herbert's 2025 cap figure is okay, but it becomes an issue after that. It doesn't make sense to pay that kind of money when you have a cheaper, younger, less banged up, and equally talented option to go with.

I think Herbert will win the SB one day, just not with Harbaugh and the Chargers.

If the Chargers traded Herbert post June 1st they'd reduce his cap hit to $22 million, save $15 million, and free up more cap space to retain or bring in free agents the next coming seasons.

And now is the best time to trade Herbert when he has maximum trade value, they could easily get 2 1st round picks and a good player for him.

In doing so, Harbaugh would essentially get a similar draft haul for acquiring Lance, to what the Niners gave up to draft him. Now that'd be some major one-upmanship right there!

And it's in Herbert's best interests to escape the constraints of Greg Roman's clunky and middling passing scheme.

Last year he threw for 29.6 passes per game, significantly lower than his pre-Harbaugh average of 38.8 per game.

That's 9 less passes per game or approximately 150 less attempts in a season. That's leads to missing out on 1,080 yards and 7 td passes based on his career averages of 7.2 yards per attempt and a 4.7% td ratio.

Missing 2-3 years of those numbers

could keep him out of Canton especially as his peers are Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson.

I'm sure the Trey haters will remain unconvinced despite all the reasons that I've laid out, but I appreciate that they've read this far.

This is a controversial take but it's based the issues of scheme fit and salary cap management.

i like how you have a vid in the middle asking, 'is trey THE FUTURE of the cowboys' and you don't even blink and you say he's the future of the chargers.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
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Trey Lance wasn't brought in to compete for the backup role, he was brought into replace Justin Herbert as the starter either during this or next offseason.

It's obvious based on Justin Herbert not being Jim Harbaugh's guy; he didn't draft Herbert or give him his big contract extension. And the major tip off is him bringing in Greg Roman, a pass game idiot but run game savant, as the offensive coordinator.

Last year the Chargers passed for 510 times vs. running for 463 times. Roman's philosophy is to do the opposite, preferring to run it 525 times to 425 passes, with the QB accounting for 125 carries on read options, power, and counters.

That's why they invested in high priced free agents RG Mekhi Becton and RB Najee Harris. Last year, Becton's 6'7" 364 lb frame allowed the Eagles to lead the league in ball carrier 1st contact at 2.2 yards past the line of scrimmage.

Having Trey Lance at QB will allow the Chargers to duplicate the Eagles' SB winning formula (they still gotta up their pass rush though), and let Roman enjoy doing what he does best.

Herbert is a golden boy franchise QB with an elite arm and good mobility, but for all his gaudy stats, he's never won the Division and is 0-2 in the playoffs. In the 2022 season, he blew a 27-0 lead against the Jags, and most recently put up a 4 int 44% pass completion stinker against the Texans.

In fairness, his 4 int performance was due to a lingering high ankle sprain and plantar fasciitis, which prevented him from properly stepping into throws or scrambling for big gains, but he still has a pattern of choking in big games.

In 2021, he dropped a must win game to make the playoffs against a 3-10 Texans team. In that game he threw for 1 td and 2 ints.

Coincidentally, a week later, a rookie Trey Lance would also face the Texans in a must win game, we all know the outcome, a season saving W while throwing for 2 tds and 1 int.

So trading Herbert wouldn't be like Luka to the Lakers.

The Chargers' fanbase won't like it and sports media will be outraged, but no one can question Harbaugh's decision making regarding QBs given that he's developed Andrew Luck, revived Alex Smith, harnessed Kaepernick's explosive playmaking, and discovered JJ McCarthy.

When Trey Lance faced Harbaugh in the preseason, he put up an impressive stat line of 33 of 49 (67.3%) passes for 323 yards 1 td and 8 runs for 90 yards.

Unfortunately, the media focus was on his FIVE INTERCEPTIONS, but Harbaugh is apparently more concerned with 4 interceptions being thrown in the postseason than 5 in the preseason, as he should be.

And Trey's haters seem to ignore that he did play well overall last preseason, completing 73 of 113 passes (64.6%) for 662 yards 2 tds 5 ints, while also running 24 times for 168 yards (7.0 yards average) and 2 tds.

Here's a link to a great breakdown of the game where he faced Harbaugh.



He had also looked good against the Commanders starting defense in week 18, going 20-34 (59%) 244 yards 0 tds 0 ints. He did miss a wide open receiver in the end zone on a 4th down play that Purdy would have completed 10 out of 10 times, but it was a good outing overall.

But the most important part is that he had 147 passing reps in both preseason and regular season with a completion rate of 63%, a couple more completions and it would be 65%. It shows that the work he's put in with Jeff Christensen is paying off.

He's clearly ready, whatever rough edges that remain in his game will be smoothed out by Harbaugh's tutelage and more reps.

Now getting back to Herbert, besides being a poor scheme fit, there's also the issue of his salary. The QB has a cap hit of $37 .3 million (13.38% team cap) in 2025; $46.3 million (15.75% team cap) in 2026; $58.3 million (18.53%) in 2027; $71.1 million (21.11%) in 2028.

Herbert's 2025 cap figure is okay, but it becomes an issue after that. It doesn't make sense to pay that kind of money when you have a cheaper, younger, less banged up, and equally talented option to go with.

I think Herbert will win the SB one day, just not with Harbaugh and the Chargers.

If the Chargers traded Herbert post June 1st they'd reduce his cap hit to $22 million, save $15 million, and free up more cap space to retain or bring in free agents the next coming seasons.

And now is the best time to trade Herbert when he has maximum trade value, they could easily get 2 1st round picks and a good player for him.

In doing so, Harbaugh would essentially get a similar draft haul for acquiring Lance, to what the Niners gave up to draft him. Now that'd be some major one-upmanship right there!

And it's in Herbert's best interests to escape the constraints of Greg Roman's clunky and middling passing scheme.

Last year he threw for 29.6 passes per game, significantly lower than his pre-Harbaugh average of 38.8 per game.

That's 9 less passes per game or approximately 150 less attempts in a season. That's leads to missing out on 1,080 yards and 7 td passes based on his career averages of 7.2 yards per attempt and a 4.7% td ratio.

Missing 2-3 years of those numbers

could keep him out of Canton especially as his peers are Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson.

I'm sure the Trey haters will remain unconvinced despite all the reasons that I've laid out, but I appreciate that they've read this far.

This is a controversial take but it's based the issues of scheme fit and salary cap management.

Your post was responded to. It's a public forum.

I can honestly say I'm not sure I've seen weirder groups of fans than the Lance die hard supporters. The man signs a basement level deal after seeing no interest in FA and some believe that means he's set to take over for an established QB who had a very good season for a new coach, in a new system. Completely delusional.

It's a 9 minute video and a post that takes to 2-3 minutes to read, yet you posted within 9 minutes indicating that you didn't really read!or watch anything.

I chose the vid to present balance, it presents the good and bad of Lance, just as my post addresses the 5 interception game.

Don't if your objective is to mock and not discuss the merits of the post.

Just dumb, willfully ignorant, and lazy.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i like how you have a vid in the middle asking, 'is trey THE FUTURE of the cowboys' and you don't even blink and you say he's the future of the chargers.

It's a 9 minute video and a post that takes to 2-3 minutes to read, yet you posted within 9 minutes indicating that you didn't really read or watch anything.

I chose the vid to present balance, it presents the good and bad of Lance, just as my post addresses the 5 interception game.

Don't post if your objective is to mock and not discuss the merits of the post.

Just dumb, willfully ignorant, and lazy.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i like how you have a vid in the middle asking, 'is trey THE FUTURE of the cowboys' and you don't even blink and you say he's the future of the chargers.

It's a 9 minute video and a post that takes to 2-3 minutes to read, yet you posted within 9 minutes indicating that you didn't really read!or watch anything.

I chose the vid to present balance, it presents the good and bad of Lance, just as my post addresses the 5 interception game.

Don't if your objective is to mock and not discuss the merits of the post.

Just dumb, willfully ignorant, and lazy.

you have to ask yourself the question, why wasn't he the future of the 49ers? why didn't he see the field in dallas?

in dallas, the QB1 blew up early season. it was a lost year, and he could not see the field. over cooper rush. undrafted. they had a sunk cost of a round 4 into lance, that was pretty clearly from the owner. very high likelihood jones wanted lance on the field. lance was not on the field. cuz they have lance every day at practice. and they see he's so far in over his head. he doesn't know what is going on. the lights are too bright for lance. he's simply not an nfl player. and he's not athletic. this is the guy martz said it looked like 'he's stumbling around like a fullback'.

follow the investment cost, it went from 3 ones, to a round 4, to no picks given up. he's got a contract not dissimilar to the old nate sudfeld deal, and we cut sudfeld. he didn't make roster. trey is rapidly on his way to being an nfl zero. he's 99.9% there. why not just write about how he's gonna land in new england, and he'll win 10 rings. he'll supplant tom brady as the GOAT. let's do this one step at a time. forget herbert. how about trey making the club? that would be a big win for him. how about him being a QB2?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Reposting, because my original post was vandalized by an idiot.

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Trey Lance wasn't brought in to compete for the backup role, he was brought into replace Justin Herbert as the starter either during this or next offseason.

It's obvious based on Justin Herbert not being Jim Harbaugh's guy; he didn't draft Herbert or give him his big contract extension. And the major tip off is him bringing in Greg Roman, a pass game idiot but run game savant, as the offensive coordinator.

Last year the Chargers passed for 510 times vs. running for 463 times. Roman's philosophy is to do the opposite, preferring to run it 525 times to 425 passes, with the QB accounting for 125 carries on read options, power, and counters.

That's why they invested in high priced free agents RG Mekhi Becton and RB Najee Harris. Last year, Becton's 6'7" 364 lb frame allowed the Eagles to lead the league in ball carrier 1st contact at 2.2 yards past the line of scrimmage.

Having Trey Lance at QB will allow the Chargers to duplicate the Eagles' SB winning formula (they still gotta up their pass rush though), and let Roman enjoy doing what he does best.

Herbert is a golden boy franchise QB with an elite arm and good mobility, but for all his gaudy stats, he's never won the Division and is 0-2 in the playoffs. In the 2022 season, he blew a 27-0 lead against the Jags, and most recently put up a 4 int 44% pass completion stinker against the Texans.

In fairness, his 4 int performance was due to a lingering high ankle sprain and plantar fasciitis, which prevented him from properly stepping into throws or scrambling for big gains, but he still has a pattern of choking in big games.

In 2021, he dropped a must win game to make the playoffs against a 3-10 Texans team. In that game he threw for 1 td and 2 ints.

Coincidentally, a week later, a rookie Trey Lance would also face the Texans in a must win game, we all know the outcome, a season saving W while throwing for 2 tds and 1 int.

So trading Herbert wouldn't be like Luka to the Lakers.

The Chargers' fanbase won't like it and sports media will be outraged, but no one can question Harbaugh's decision making regarding QBs given that he's developed Andrew Luck, revived Alex Smith, harnessed Kaepernick's explosive playmaking, and discovered JJ McCarthy.

When Trey Lance faced Harbaugh in the preseason, he put up an impressive stat line of 33 of 49 (67.3%) passes for 323 yards 1 td and 8 runs for 90 yards.

Unfortunately, the media focus was on his FIVE INTERCEPTIONS, but Harbaugh is apparently more concerned with 4 interceptions being thrown in the postseason than 5 in the preseason, as he should be.

And Trey's haters seem to ignore that he did play well overall last preseason, completing 73 of 113 passes (64.6%) for 662 yards 2 tds 5 ints, while also running 24 times for 168 yards (7.0 yards average) and 2 tds.

Here's a link to a great breakdown of the game where he faced Harbaugh.



He had also looked good against the Commanders starting defense in week 18, going 20-34 (59%) 244 yards 0 tds 0 ints. He did miss a wide open receiver in the end zone on a 4th down play that Purdy would have completed 10 out of 10 times, but it was a good outing overall.

But the most important part is that he had 147 passing reps in both preseason and regular season with a completion rate of 63%, a couple more completions and it would be 65%. It shows that the work he's put in with Jeff Christensen is paying off.

He's clearly ready, whatever rough edges that remain in his game will be smoothed out by Harbaugh's tutelage and more reps.

Now getting back to Herbert, besides being a poor scheme fit, there's also the issue of his salary. The QB has a cap hit of $37 .3 million (13.38% team cap) in 2025; $46.3 million (15.75% team cap) in 2026; $58.3 million (18.53%) in 2027; $71.1 million (21.11%) in 2028.

Herbert's 2025 cap figure is okay, but it becomes an issue after that. It doesn't make sense to pay that kind of money when you have a cheaper, younger, less banged up, and equally talented option to go with.

I think Herbert will win the SB one day, just not with Harbaugh and the Chargers.

If the Chargers traded Herbert post June 1st they'd reduce his cap hit to $22 million, save $15 million, and free up more cap space to retain or bring in free agents the next coming seasons.

And now is the best time to trade Herbert when he has maximum trade value, they could easily get 2 1st round picks and a good player for him.

In doing so, Harbaugh would essentially get a similar draft haul for acquiring Lance, to what the Niners gave up to draft him. Now that'd be some major one-upmanship right there!

And it's in Herbert's best interests to escape the constraints of Greg Roman's clunky and middling passing scheme.

Last year he threw for 29.6 passes per game, significantly lower than his pre-Harbaugh average of 38.8 per game.

That's 9 less passes per game or approximately 150 less attempts in a season. That's leads to missing out on 1,080 yards and 7 td passes based on his career averages of 7.2 yards per attempt and a 4.7% td ratio.

Missing 2-3 years of those numbers

could keep him out of Canton especially as his peers are Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson.

I'm sure the Trey haters will remain unconvinced despite all the reasons that I've laid out, but I appreciate that they've read this far.

This is a controversial take but it's based the issues of scheme fit and salary cap management.

Your post was responded to. It's a public forum.

I can honestly say I'm not sure I've seen weirder groups of fans than the Lance die hard supporters. The man signs a basement level deal after seeing no interest in FA and some believe that means he's set to take over for an established QB who had a very good season for a new coach, in a new system. Completely delusional.

Quite the fail upwards track that would be. Major problem with his idea is Lance can't play worth a damn. Herbert struggled in a playoff game while Lance has struggled to play a game... any game. He is a 5th year rookie. But sure, he was brought in with expectations that he will take the starting job (no, he wasn't).

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
It's a 9 minute video and a post that takes to 2-3 minutes to read, yet you posted within 9 minutes indicating that you didn't really read!or watch anything.

I chose the vid to present balance, it presents the good and bad of Lance, just as my post addresses the 5 interception game.

Don't if your objective is to mock and not discuss the merits of the post.

Just dumb, willfully ignorant, and lazy.

You made your post last night, lol. Definitely enough time for someone to have read it in it's entirety and watched the worthless video you linked.

I like how you referenced the rules of the board while you call other posters dumb, willfully ignorant, idiot, and a dunce, for responding unfavorably to your post. Completely bats**t (just like your post).

btw, this is how i would invest in QBs. take daniel jones when he's not costing you a single pick, take baker when he is a street FA, or darnold when he is. harbaugh just says hey this is a former #3 overall and i can get him in my offseason for essentially nothing. his investment in lance is a lot wiser than ours was.

in this upcoming draft, i would look at a draft faller like milroe. if you want to have the QB as a part of the run game with roman, that's your play. anthony richardson is about to be available. say what you will about richardson, you put him standing next to your halfback in short yardage, that's tough on a defensive front to stop. presnap the d doesn't even know who to key on. lance isn't that guy, he's not a physical runner at the pro level or a good runner. if you talk skill set, if lance was a functional good QB, athletically he would be daniel jones, who i actually like. i don't think you want jones or lance doing QB power. jones has had neck issues and lance got smoked. you want someone more physical like richardson, or more cat quick like lamar, for designed QB run.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
you have to ask yourself the question, why wasn't he the future of the 49ers? why didn't he see the field in dallas?

in dallas, the QB1 blew up early season. it was a lost year, and he could not see the field. over cooper rush. undrafted. they had a sunk cost of a round 4 into lance, that was pretty clearly from the owner. very high likelihood jones wanted lance on the field. lance was not on the field. cuz they have lance every day at practice. and they see he's so far in over his head. he doesn't know what is going on. the lights are too bright for lance. he's simply not an nfl player. and he's not athletic. this is the guy martz said it looked like 'he's stumbling around like a fullback'.

follow the investment cost, it went from 3 ones, to a round 4, to no picks given up. he's got a contract not dissimilar to the old nate sudfeld deal, and we cut sudfeld. he didn't make roster. trey is rapidly on his way to being an nfl zero. he's 99.9% there. why not just write about how he's gonna land in new england, and he'll win 10 rings. he'll supplant tom brady as the GOAT. let's do this one step at a time. forget herbert. how about trey making the club? that would be a big win for him. how about him being a QB2?

You're opinion of Lance is based on conventional wisdom and bad takes that aren't supported by game footage.

And you didn't read my post. Don't respond, flunky.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
you have to ask yourself the question, why wasn't he the future of the 49ers? why didn't he see the field in dallas?

in dallas, the QB1 blew up early season. it was a lost year, and he could not see the field. over cooper rush. undrafted. they had a sunk cost of a round 4 into lance, that was pretty clearly from the owner. very high likelihood jones wanted lance on the field. lance was not on the field. cuz they have lance every day at practice. and they see he's so far in over his head. he doesn't know what is going on. the lights are too bright for lance. he's simply not an nfl player. and he's not athletic. this is the guy martz said it looked like 'he's stumbling around like a fullback'.

follow the investment cost, it went from 3 ones, to a round 4, to no picks given up. he's got a contract not dissimilar to the old nate sudfeld deal, and we cut sudfeld. he didn't make roster. trey is rapidly on his way to being an nfl zero. he's 99.9% there. why not just write about how he's gonna land in new england, and he'll win 10 rings. he'll supplant tom brady as the GOAT. let's do this one step at a time. forget herbert. how about trey making the club? that would be a big win for him. how about him being a QB2?

You're opinion of Lance is based on conventional wisdom and bad takes that aren't supported by game footage.

And you didn't read my post. Don't respond, flunky.

dude, shanahan had 1 route concepts cooked up. i have never seen that before, at the nfl level. he then is traded out to a rival. think of how much we invested and how we punted this guy for next to nothing. why did shanahan do that? he's able to win a ring with the chargers, they can replicate the eagles recipe , ok, then why did shanny give up on him? shanny saw him every single day. shanny paid this huge price. does anyone enjoy paying a fortune and selling at a major loss?

he can't get past cooper rush one year and you have him getting past herbert the next. and you want to post the insult rules, while you insult others. i don't have to insult you, your post did that

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:


dude, shanahan had 1 route concepts cooked up. i have never seen that before, at the nfl level. he then is traded out to a rival. think of how much we invested and how we punted this guy for next to nothing. why did shanahan do that? he's able to win a ring with the chargers, they can replicate the eagles recipe , ok, then why did shanny give up on him? shanny saw him every single day. shanny paid this huge price. does anyone enjoy paying a fortune and selling at a major loss?

he can't get past cooper rush one year and you have him getting past herbert the next. and you want to post the insult rules, while you insult others. i don't have to insult you, your post did that

And the Cowboys invested a 4th round pick in trade and 15 ish million or so and also let him walk, along with Cooper Rush, and will have an entirely new QB room outside of Dak.

He's 'clearly ready' though, and that's why he signed for 1.5 million dollars guaranteed after a month on the market. Maybe those talent evaluators across the league need to ditch the conventional wisdom and watch more youtube hype videos.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
And the Cowboys invested a 4th round pick in trade and 15 ish million or so and also let him walk, along with Cooper Rush, and will have an entirely new QB room outside of Dak.

He's 'clearly ready' though, and that's why he signed for 1.5 million dollars guaranteed after a month on the market. Maybe those talent evaluators across the league need to ditch the conventional wisdom and watch more youtube hype videos.

they did the same thing in dallas as he is doing now. they went wild with oh he's coming for dak's job fantasies. he even shares a video of that ilk, without seeming to understand that the answer to the question if trey is dallas's future, is a resounding no. fool me once...

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
they did the same thing in dallas as he is doing now. they went wild with oh he's coming for dak's job fantasies. he even shares a video of that ilk, without seeming to understand that the answer to the question if trey is dallas's future, is a resounding no. fool me once...

Yup. Just a weird group of fans like I mentioned earlier.

I'd be surprised if he beats out Heinicke in a legitimate competition.

I'm sure Harbaugh would take Daniel Jones, Justin Fields, Anthony Richardson, Marcus Mariotta, over Herbert. They fit Roman's system.

Fans will get hung up on Herbert's passing stats, but he's not a fit for their scheme.

He ran the ball 4 per game last year, they want their QBs to run 8-10 times again running QB power and counters.

Herbert is an elite QB, but that's not his game.