Deebo - 5th Rounder, 31 mil dead cap hit
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Mar 2, 2025 at 1:14 AM
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Trey - 4th Rounder, no dead cap hit
Deebo - 5th Rounder, 31 mil dead cap hit
Deebo - 5th Rounder, 31 mil dead cap hit
Mar 3, 2025 at 4:33 PM
- DaleGribble
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:I agree with that.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
One of two things can be true here you're dead wrong and aren't willing to admit it or Shanahan & Lynch are two of the biggest idiots if not the biggest idiots in the NFL for trading up to 3 for a guy that was not only not guaranteed to be there but was pretty much a lock to go 2 it's as simple as that.
I think he's likely correct we didn't trade up for Lance either.
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Mar 3, 2025 at 4:36 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:I wouldn't call trading up for a guy that has zero chance of being there a gamble but that's me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:there's a 3rd option, they gambled and lost
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:One of two things can be true here you're dead wrong and aren't willing to admit it or Shanahan & Lynch are two of the biggest idiots if not the biggest idiots in the NFL for trading up to 3 for a guy that was not only not guaranteed to be there but was pretty much a lock to go 2 it's as simple as that.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:lol, we did not trade up for Lance that's for sure
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:You're preaching to the choir.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
It was idiotic no matter how you slice it if Wilson was their guy.
There's nothing to support that Wilson was their guy, and it was well known the Jets were going to draft him. Information that would have been easily discernible in their effort to trade up. Look how they operated after they made the trade.
biggest idiots don't get you to SBs and multiple NFCCGs
Mar 3, 2025 at 7:18 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:if there was really a zero chance, then there's no need to move up to 3
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:I wouldn't call trading up for a guy that has zero chance of being there a gamble but that's me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:there's a 3rd option, they gambled and lost
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:One of two things can be true here you're dead wrong and aren't willing to admit it or Shanahan & Lynch are two of the biggest idiots if not the biggest idiots in the NFL for trading up to 3 for a guy that was not only not guaranteed to be there but was pretty much a lock to go 2 it's as simple as that.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:lol, we did not trade up for Lance that's for sure
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:You're preaching to the choir.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
It was idiotic no matter how you slice it if Wilson was their guy.
There's nothing to support that Wilson was their guy, and it was well known the Jets were going to draft him. Information that would have been easily discernible in their effort to trade up. Look how they operated after they made the trade.
biggest idiots don't get you to SBs and multiple NFCCGs
Mar 3, 2025 at 8:40 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Now you're getting it.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:if there was really a zero chance, then there's no need to move up to 3
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:I wouldn't call trading up for a guy that has zero chance of being there a gamble but that's me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:there's a 3rd option, they gambled and lost
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:One of two things can be true here you're dead wrong and aren't willing to admit it or Shanahan & Lynch are two of the biggest idiots if not the biggest idiots in the NFL for trading up to 3 for a guy that was not only not guaranteed to be there but was pretty much a lock to go 2 it's as simple as that.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:lol, we did not trade up for Lance that's for sure
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:You're preaching to the choir.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
It was idiotic no matter how you slice it if Wilson was their guy.
There's nothing to support that Wilson was their guy, and it was well known the Jets were going to draft him. Information that would have been easily discernible in their effort to trade up. Look how they operated after they made the trade.
biggest idiots don't get you to SBs and multiple NFCCGs
Mar 3, 2025 at 9:11 PM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:no i get hindsight.. it's just we moved up and got stuck when Wilson wasn't going to be there.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Now you're getting it.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:if there was really a zero chance, then there's no need to move up to 3
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:I wouldn't call trading up for a guy that has zero chance of being there a gamble but that's me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:there's a 3rd option, they gambled and lost
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:One of two things can be true here you're dead wrong and aren't willing to admit it or Shanahan & Lynch are two of the biggest idiots if not the biggest idiots in the NFL for trading up to 3 for a guy that was not only not guaranteed to be there but was pretty much a lock to go 2 it's as simple as that.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:lol, we did not trade up for Lance that's for sure
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:You're preaching to the choir.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
It was idiotic no matter how you slice it if Wilson was their guy.
There's nothing to support that Wilson was their guy, and it was well known the Jets were going to draft him. Information that would have been easily discernible in their effort to trade up. Look how they operated after they made the trade.
biggest idiots don't get you to SBs and multiple NFCCGs
Jets showed they could keep Darnold in some interviews about his untapped potential before ZWs pro day and they still kept him after the draft.
Kyle knew Fields already and was disgusted with Jones. They didn't start looking into Lance seriously until after the trade.
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Mar 3, 2025 at 9:14 PM
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Trey - 4th Rounder, no dead cap hit
Deebo - 5th Rounder, 31 mil dead cap hit
absolute fail by Lynch and Marathe
Mar 3, 2025 at 9:33 PM
- DaleGribble
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Which is why it was idiotic to move up if in fact Wilson was their target which I don't believe was the case.
no i get hindsight.. it's just we moved up and got stuck when Wilson wasn't going to be there.
Jets showed they could keep Darnold in some interviews about his untapped potential before ZWs pro day and they still kept him after the draft.
Kyle knew Fields already and was disgusted with Jones. They didn't start looking into Lance seriously until after the trade.
Where do you get that Kyle was disgusted by Jones from?
Mar 3, 2025 at 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Which is why it was idiotic to move up if in fact Wilson was their target which I don't believe was the case.
no i get hindsight.. it's just we moved up and got stuck when Wilson wasn't going to be there.
Jets showed they could keep Darnold in some interviews about his untapped potential before ZWs pro day and they still kept him after the draft.
Kyle knew Fields already and was disgusted with Jones. They didn't start looking into Lance seriously until after the trade.
Where do you get that Kyle was disgusted by Jones from?
Wilson would have been a horrible pick too.
Mar 3, 2025 at 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:disgusted might be harsh.. but from the reports of when Kyle was at Jones' Pro day
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Which is why it was idiotic to move up if in fact Wilson was their target which I don't believe was the case.
no i get hindsight.. it's just we moved up and got stuck when Wilson wasn't going to be there.
Jets showed they could keep Darnold in some interviews about his untapped potential before ZWs pro day and they still kept him after the draft.
Kyle knew Fields already and was disgusted with Jones. They didn't start looking into Lance seriously until after the trade.
Where do you get that Kyle was disgusted by Jones from?
Mar 4, 2025 at 7:27 AM
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Originally posted by glorydayz:More than likely but things may have been different if he ended up here instead of with the Jets.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Which is why it was idiotic to move up if in fact Wilson was their target which I don't believe was the case.
no i get hindsight.. it's just we moved up and got stuck when Wilson wasn't going to be there.
Jets showed they could keep Darnold in some interviews about his untapped potential before ZWs pro day and they still kept him after the draft.
Kyle knew Fields already and was disgusted with Jones. They didn't start looking into Lance seriously until after the trade.
Where do you get that Kyle was disgusted by Jones from?
Wilson would have been a horrible pick too.
Mar 4, 2025 at 7:32 AM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:I don't recall that at all,but I do recall him being in play right up till the end according to the media.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:disgusted might be harsh.. but from the reports of when Kyle was at Jones' Pro day
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Which is why it was idiotic to move up if in fact Wilson was their target which I don't believe was the case.
no i get hindsight.. it's just we moved up and got stuck when Wilson wasn't going to be there.
Jets showed they could keep Darnold in some interviews about his untapped potential before ZWs pro day and they still kept him after the draft.
Kyle knew Fields already and was disgusted with Jones. They didn't start looking into Lance seriously until after the trade.
Where do you get that Kyle was disgusted by Jones from?
Mar 4, 2025 at 9:12 AM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:Thats why i'm here to give the facts. Media and other fans really believed those reports on jones were all based on team success at bama.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:I don't recall that at all,but I do recall him being in play right up till the end according to the media.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:disgusted might be harsh.. but from the reports of when Kyle was at Jones' Pro day
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Which is why it was idiotic to move up if in fact Wilson was their target which I don't believe was the case.
no i get hindsight.. it's just we moved up and got stuck when Wilson wasn't going to be there.
Jets showed they could keep Darnold in some interviews about his untapped potential before ZWs pro day and they still kept him after the draft.
Kyle knew Fields already and was disgusted with Jones. They didn't start looking into Lance seriously until after the trade.
Where do you get that Kyle was disgusted by Jones from?
The Zone consensus had a majority of not believing that and would be pissed if we did pick Jones
Mar 4, 2025 at 9:52 AM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
More than likely but things may have been different if he ended up here instead of with the Jets.
I think that would be true for all five of those quarterbacks that year. Even now, none are in situations with teams known for being good with QBs. I liked Wilson, but like most early picks, he went to a bad team and failed.
Mar 4, 2025 at 12:41 PM
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Personally, I feel Shanalynch were debating between Lance and Fields. Both had traits (or at least more traits) like the QB they were actually envious of: Josh Allen. Neither Wilson or Jones scratched that itch.