Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Look I have no idea if Lance will ever be good, he has some traits but it means nothing if it can't all be put together. All I ever wanted was for him to have a legit chance to fail….if people think 170 random passing attempts and a whatever preseason game was a legit chance to fail. That's fine, I'll disagree but it doesn't matter what any of us think.

You've never been wrong about him needing the time. It's just a difference of prioritizing the team now against the chance at having a great QB down the road. Maybe we can get both in Purdy.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

If that's the case then treys got.problems. I was giving him the benefit.of the doubt as he was playing with backups and a vanilla offense.

I don't believe it. They had joint practices with the team they were playing. You're not practicing script play vs them.

also play calling mean nothing if half the team isn't executing their jobs, not just the QB.

It's what Papa claimed Kyle said. I don't have a clip recorded of it, but they put a graphic up and everything.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You've never been wrong about him needing the time. It's just a difference of prioritizing the team now against the chance at having a great QB down the road. Maybe we can get both in Purdy.

Except the part where he said he was just as NFL ready as anyone in that class.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Look I have no idea if Lance will ever be good, he has some traits but it means nothing if it can't all be put together. All I ever wanted was for him to have a legit chance to fail….if people think 170 random passing attempts and a whatever preseason game was a legit chance to fail. That's fine, I'll disagree but it doesn't matter what any of us think.

At the end of the day, injuries boned lance - not opportunities. Which is just unfortunate.

i think the team underestimated how raw he really was. Him not getting any playing time has hurt his growth dramatically. He's arguably the rawest qb to ever be taken that high and he was put on a team that needs to win now, which never made sense to me. So many people undervalued what Jimmy did here and assumed lance could do it no problem, which was a mistake.

it's not over yet, lance could have a really good performance next game. He could end up playing this year and looking much better - who knows. It's looking bleak now but it's not over.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Brock got a chance and played like an elite qb. He is on another level from Trey or Darnold.

He made the most of his reps for sure

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You've never been wrong about him needing the time. It's just a difference of prioritizing the team now against the chance at having a great QB down the road. Maybe we can get both in Purdy.

Except the part where he said he was just as NFL ready as anyone in that class.

I remember Kyle saying that and I was like "if he really believes that, he's smoking rocks". Lol

Originally posted by krizay:
Except the part where he said he was just as NFL ready as anyone in that class.

Lol, you right… but I'll give him the hyped fan pass.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I remember Kyle saying that and I was like "if he really believes that, he's smoking rocks". Lol

Wasnt talking bout Kyle

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You've never been wrong about him needing the time. It's just a difference of prioritizing the team now against the chance at having a great QB down the road. Maybe we can get both in Purdy.

Except the part where he said he was just as NFL ready as anyone in that class.

Based on what he ran in college yup. I know fields, Lawrence and Wilson were just magical year 1. McCorkle then level off because the upside doesn't exist with him. Toss in his douche bag attitude.

Lance needed to play actual football and for many reasons never got that…so yeah I'll say that over and over. You can't get better if you don't get to play.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I remember Kyle saying that and I was like "if he really believes that, he's smoking rocks". Lol

Wasnt talking bout Kyle

Oh, people actually thought lance was as ready as Lawrence and/or mac? Lol no way.

in hindsight, mac was the right choice for the current state of the team (I wanted fields). I didn't love jones or anything but he was the most ready and capable of taking advantage of the situation out of the three.

ultimately, I'm happy with Purdy. It's still early with him but I love everything about him so far. Very excited to see how he does this year. If he goes down, we will see lance/darnold.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You've never been wrong about him needing the time. It's just a difference of prioritizing the team now against the chance at having a great QB down the road. Maybe we can get both in Purdy.

Except the part where he said he was just as NFL ready as anyone in that class.

Based on what he ran in college yup. I know fields, Lawrence and Wilson were just magical year 1. McCorkle did what I thought he would do and then not improve at all because the upside isn't there.

Jury Is still out on mac, IMO. He was boned hard last year by making a DC and ST coach his OC for some reason. Very odd. I'm expecting him to bounce back this year but it's a complex system. He should be much improved though.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Look I have no idea if Lance will ever be good, he has some traits but it means nothing if it can't all be put together. All I ever wanted was for him to have a legit chance to fail….if people think 170 random passing attempts and a whatever preseason game was a legit chance to fail. That's fine, I'll disagree but it doesn't matter what any of us think.

At the end of the day, injuries boned lance - not opportunities. Which is just unfortunate.

i think the team underestimated how raw he really was. Him not getting any playing time has hurt his growth dramatically. He's arguably the rawest qb to ever be taken that high and he was put on a team that needs to win now, which never made sense to me. So many people undervalued what Jimmy did here and assumed lance could do it no problem, which was a mistake.

it's not over yet, lance could have a really good performance next game. He could end up playing this year and looking much better - who knows. It's looking bleak now but it's not over.

Only way he was ever gonna improve was to actually play football. Not sitting on the bench. That's all I'll say about that.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Kyle said half the sacks were on trey

Well that first sack was nuts, he stopped that 3 step at 2 and half for no apparent reason, and had 4 guys in frame turn and look for the ball...and ended up getting sacked on a play that was VERY clearly a play designed to get him a simple completion to get the game started. 99% of QBs would have got the ball out at 3 (step) nice safe and low and move on to second and short.

I always say watch the helmets...

They will turn when someone goes live in the progression.

There was only one snap he did not have at least two people in progression at 3 (step) and on that play at least 2 went live at 5. Clearly it was a balanced passing attack with short routs available incase the line did not hold up.

Trey knows the assignment..... he knows Brock is starting because he is making chunk plays. He had to sit in at least a 6 QB meetings talking about Brock did this right, or Brock did that right.

Trey knows the team wants chunk yardage....

They set Trey up with a good amount of play action, to put Trey in position to extend plays and keep his eyes down field, with safe short options if needed. Can't really fault the play calling.

All in all it could have been worse, it was not good, but it could have been worse.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Look I have no idea if Lance will ever be good, he has some traits but it means nothing if it can't all be put together. All I ever wanted was for him to have a legit chance to fail….if people think 170 random passing attempts and a whatever preseason game was a legit chance to fail. That's fine, I'll disagree but it doesn't matter what any of us think.

At the end of the day, injuries boned lance - not opportunities. Which is just unfortunate.

i think the team underestimated how raw he really was. Him not getting any playing time has hurt his growth dramatically. He's arguably the rawest qb to ever be taken that high and he was put on a team that needs to win now, which never made sense to me. So many people undervalued what Jimmy did here and assumed lance could do it no problem, which was a mistake.

it's not over yet, lance could have a really good performance next game. He could end up playing this year and looking much better - who knows. It's looking bleak now but it's not over.

Only way he was ever gonna improve was to actually play football. Not sitting on the bench. That's all I'll say about that.

That's why I'm saying it was injuries. Trey has never been healthy for a single nfl game in his career so far - the finger injury happened in the pre season of his rookie year. There really was no reason to start him over jimmy, we know how it played out in hindsight, but Jimmy gave us the best chance to win.

Lance broke his finger and hurt his knee his rookie year. Then his second year he had lingering finger issues and then broke and dislocated his ankle in week 2.

even if he didn't break his ankle, he probably would of played pretty bad his second year cause of where his mechanics were at from the finger issue.

im just saying it isn't like the team didn't try to play him, he just has been constantly injured his entire career.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Jury Is still out on mac, IMO. He was boned hard last year by making a DC and ST coach his OC for some reason. Very odd. I'm expecting him to bounce back this year but it's a complex system. He should be much improved though.

And yet a rookie QB drafted in the 4th rd played just as well. Mac got booed by his fans. towards the end of his rookie yr teams started figuring out his limitations.

People want to blame whomever besides him. Acting like he doesn't have the goat HC they're making the decisions.