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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Sorry I didn't mean YOU but in general.
Like I said, Lance needs to go to a team that will start him. Lance is the kind of young QB that needs reps and not sit behind another young QB. I think Washington or Atlanta would give him the best opportunity to develop.
Originally posted by KiwiM3:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Sorry I didn't mean YOU but in general.
Like I said, Lance needs to go to a team that will start him. Lance is the kind of young QB that needs reps and not sit behind another young QB. I think Washington or Atlanta would give him the best opportunity to develop.
Wouldn't he just sit behind Ridder and Howell at Atlanta or Washington?
With a strong QB class around the corner the chances a team is going to let Lance be a starter are slim.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Some of us must've forgotten this is Trey's first live action since he was injured ...?
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Some of us must've forgotten this is Trey's first live action since he was injured ...?
I'm going with this. It absolutely makes a difference the first time you're in the line of fire coming back from a brutal injury. Since this whole week is going to be the internet version of the cuban missile crisis regarding Trey I choose to withhold any judgement until next week. Every year people freak out over preseason games and every year I laugh at them because it's ridiculous to freak out over a preseason game.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by WINiner:
So year three and this is what we get. I don't care what the previous circumstances are, for a 3rd year pro playing against a lot of 2nd stringers I expected a LOT more. He's running out of time with this team quickly.
Year 3 yes. 4 starts and last one being in September.
People gave Brock the rust excuse. Does that not come into play at all for Trey in his first real game back since his injury? Let's not pretend that Darnold or Allen looked great.
Allen is in his 5th year and Darnold in his 6th based on your thought process and playing vs even weaker talent.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Okay here's the thing. Routes have sight adjustments, sure. A good accurate throw can complete that, yes. Now look at the other angle SmokeyJoe posted. Look how WIDE OPEN the in route is. Do you see that? (that little black spot at the arrow tip is the ref... there is MILES of room there)
If we assume the line actually does there job, where do you want him to throw that? Keep in mind this was NOT a blitz. This was a four man rush. Theoretically there is no need to throw fast. So if the line does there job, where should this ball go? If the line does their job, and he throws the six yard out by putting it low and on the inside shoulder (assuming the other defender bracketing him doesn't get there first), and we get six yards, and leave thirty yards on the field, what are you going to say then?
Do you see the point that he doesn't get that route without the massive 'pump fake'? Watch the LB when the ball is snapped. Looks like a basic cover 2.
Um, why would you throw an out route in cover 2? So let's say Lance didn't think it was a press cover 4 or a cover 3 (can't see where the other safety is). How does that change what happened post-snap? Post-snap it's a cover 2, and in a cover 2, you DON'T throw the out route. Oh, sure, yeah, you could do it, if you throw it well. But you ideally attack the seams and the middle in cover 2. And look how wide open the middle is here.
Assuming the line does their job, where should this ball go? If you don't say over the middle to that thirty yard gain...
The line got beat. Thats why you hit that quick short one. If the OL holds, take the deep pass. These are the quick decisions a good QB can make.
How are you supposed to know the line got beat at that point? By being psychic? The line was beat AFTER he saw it was a flat zone and decided to go to his second read, but BEFORE he could actually turn and throw to his second read.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by thl408:
When he pumped his throw, he should have located the ball on the inside shoulder instead of pumping. You can see the TE knowing to not run the Out. It's a basic sight adjustment. I'm not asking for some elite level play here. Anyway, if you don't agree that's cool. It's not a big deal. We just see this play differently.
That's what I see as well.
X3
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by WINiner:
So year three and this is what we get. I don't care what the previous circumstances are, for a 3rd year pro playing against a lot of 2nd stringers I expected a LOT more. He's running out of time with this team quickly.
Year 3 yes. 4 starts and last one being in September.
People gave Brock the rust excuse. Does that not come into play at all for Trey in his first real game back since his injury? Let's not pretend that Darnold or Allen looked great.
Allen is in his 5th year and Darnold in his 6th based on your thought process and playing vs even weaker talent.
Originally posted by Predator85:Or just needs to see Darnold warm up on the sidelines, to get that fire going
Trey Lance has the physical ability to be a good QB, he just doesn't have the vision nor trust his vision at this moment. He needs to be on a team where he can play the whole year.
Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
I'm going with this. It absolutely makes a difference the first time you're in the line of fire coming back from a brutal injury. Since this whole week is going to be the internet version of the cuban missile crisis regarding Trey I choose to withhold any judgement until next week. Every year people freak out over preseason games and every year I laugh at them because it's ridiculous to freak out over a preseason game.
