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Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread
Aug 13, 2023 at 5:48 PM
- Wolf_Packer_53
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It's pretty clear to me that he is rhythmic thrower. Needs to get on a roll first and then he truly gets going. Not somebody that is hot from the very first snap.
Aug 13, 2023 at 5:49 PM
- LambdaChi49
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I was pretty pro Alex Smith despite the struggles because it was clear he got a raw deal 2005-2010. Everyone could see that. Was he really worth the first pick? Not sure. But the dude had several flashes of brilliance during those years. But Lance? I mean…I've really yet to see anything. He has all the things Smith did not…all world talent, coaching/system continuity/and more raw athleticism.
He seems like a good kid but I just don't see anything that makes me go "wow…this kid is special."
He seems like a good kid but I just don't see anything that makes me go "wow…this kid is special."
Aug 13, 2023 at 5:54 PM
- SD49er
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I'm not high on Darnold, but he made Lance look bad today. I mean Allen made Lance look bad (I know it was against even worse competition). Trey looked gunshy and overwhelmed while Darnold looked in command. If training camp ended today I can't help but think Trey would be the odd man out. He has some more time but damn does he need to show something in the games.
Aug 13, 2023 at 5:59 PM
- RonMexico
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I like Trey but I think I just wanna be friends
Aug 13, 2023 at 5:59 PM
- krizay
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Originally posted by RonMexico:
I like Trey but I think I just wanna be friends
Aug 13, 2023 at 6:00 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by prospector49:
This is the truth, by year 2-3, with Alex Smith, fans were all over him, calling any contextualizing or explanation "Alexcuses", and saying he was a bust. And he was on a team that was perhaps the worst in the NFL in terms of talent, and coaching, until Harbaugh came along and Smith excelled.
Lance is woefully underprepared to be a NFL QB, next to no experience in college, and without even elite raw talent, he has a strong arm and that's it.
By year 3, it started to happen. It absolutely wasn't happening in year two. That is a downright lie. In year 2, everyone was fairly to extremely pleased with Smith's progress. People started to become unhappy when he was horrible to start the year, got hurt, came back and was horrible again, then was out for the season.
But the obvious difference between Alex Smith and Trey Lance in their respective year 3s is that by the start of them, Smith already had 23 starts...and Lance had 4.
Trying to draw comparisons between the 2 situations is silly. And even by year 4, Alex still had a large contingent of fans that were willing to give him a pass as a young developing QB. There are far less of them doing the same for Trey, in spite of it being far more reasonable to do after 4 starts compared to 23.
Aug 13, 2023 at 6:01 PM
- LambdaChi49
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Originally posted by SD49er:
I'm not high on Darnold, but he made Lance look bad today. I mean Allen made Lance look bad (I know it was against even worse competition). Trey looked gunshy and overwhelmed while Darnold looked in command. If training camp ended today I can't help but think Trey would be the odd man out. He has some more time but damn does he need to show something in the games.
#4 Aiden O'Connell aka dollar store Derek Carr out played Lance today.
Aug 13, 2023 at 6:03 PM
- PRIMETIME21
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Dude plays scared… can't really coach that, it is what it is
Aug 13, 2023 at 6:04 PM
- NDSU
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Originally posted by SD49er:The game is not slowing down for Lance. The joke that is the OLine didnt help any of the QBS today though.
I'm not high on Darnold, but he made Lance look bad today. I mean Allen made Lance look bad (I know it was against even worse competition). Trey looked gunshy and overwhelmed while Darnold looked in command. If training camp ended today I can't help but think Trey would be the odd man out. He has some more time but damn does he need to show something in the games.
I think Lance may be ok if the game slows down for him, but it may never happen.
Aug 13, 2023 at 6:04 PM
- qnnhan7
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Lance mixed, inconsistent, need to make quicker decisions. Not all on him though. I saw one overthrow with 2 receivers in the same vicinity. Offensive line had some trouble handling the Raiders Dline.
Aug 13, 2023 at 6:05 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
By year 3, it started to happen. It absolutely wasn't happening in year two. That is a downright lie. In year 2, everyone was fairly to extremely pleased with Smith's progress. People started to become unhappy when he was horrible to start the year, got hurt, came back and was horrible again, then was out for the season.
But the obvious difference between Alex Smith and Trey Lance in their respective year 3s is that by the start of them, Smith already had 23 starts...and Lance had 4.
Trying to draw comparisons between the 2 situations is silly. And even by year 4, Alex still had a large contingent of fans that were willing to give him a pass as a young developing QB. There are far less of them doing the same for Trey, in spite of it being far more reasonable to do after 4 starts compared to 23.
I agree with a lot of this but there are other clear differences in their situation where Lance has the advantage, namely consistent coaching and fantastic players around him (not including today).
Lance had a full offseason catered to him being QB1 with those elements that Alex didn't even come close to having until 2011.
They were both developmental players. Can we learn this lesson at some point as an organization, lol.
Aug 13, 2023 at 6:09 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
I seen so many on here attack others and even question their fanhood whenever someone thought Trey wasn't the second coming. Hopefully those days are over. I understand preseason is mostly unwatchable football, but he has shown nothing in the last 3 years that trading all those picks were justified.
Rich Eisen kinda called this out recently, talking to Florio. He mentioned 'fan comments' and said he doesn't get the 'sensitivity' (his quote) regarding fans with Lance. He was talking about how if you have a dif football opinion, other than him being a great fit here, why does that enflame so many ppl?
Aug 13, 2023 at 6:10 PM
- blizzuntz
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We aren't winning a superbowl with him this season
Aug 13, 2023 at 6:12 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
I seen so many on here attack others and even question their fanhood whenever someone thought Trey wasn't the second coming. Hopefully those days are over. I understand preseason is mostly unwatchable football, but he has shown nothing in the last 3 years that trading all those picks were justified.
Rich Eisen kinda called this out recently, talking to Florio. He mentioned 'fan comments' and said he doesn't get the 'sensitivity' (his quote) regarding fans with Lance. He was talking about how if you have a dif football opinion, other than him being a great fit here, why does that enflame so many ppl?
Making a mountain out of a molehill. Not even that serious.
Aug 13, 2023 at 6:12 PM
- Miranda
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Originally posted by RonMexico:Being friends with QB#2 is nice
I like Trey but I think I just wanna be friends