Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by frenchmov:
However you want to define it. I consider losing to the worst team in the league, which has zero points and negative yards at halftime, an embarrassment.

I consider football to be a team sport.

Trey has a huge opportunity right now this preseason.

Even though he can't outright win the #1 job in this camp, he can still by his performance make Brock's leash shorter.

Obviously beyond that he needs to be prepared as if he's the number one guy cause if something happens, more than likely it's gonna be his show.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Trey has a huge opportunity right now this preseason.

Even though he can't outright win the #1 job in this camp, he can still by his performance make Brock's leash shorter.

Obviously beyond that he needs to be prepared as if he's the number one guy cause if something happens, more than likely it's gonna be his show.

Completely agreed! Hope Trey keeps preparing each & everyday as it can be his job very quickly & we may need him to develop & take us where we wanna go this year!

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
However you want to define it. I consider losing to the worst team in the league, which has zero points and negative yards at halftime, an embarrassment.

I consider football to be a team sport.

Unless the niners lose when Jimmy is the qb. Then it's his fault entirely.

Yes football is a team sport, but qb play is a huge factor even it comes to wins and losses.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't worry about Brock's interceptions in practice and that goes for other QBs.

But you know very well had that been Lance it would be an issue for YOU and some others in here. That's part of the issue.

The other issue is the simple fact that if Brock is playing Trey cannot play in games that do matter to show us whether he's better or not. Some of you guys are fighting tooth and nail to still downplay Trey's clear improvement and refuse to acknowledge the different situations Trey and Brock found themselves in last year when each was called upon to start.

We saw some HORRIBLE throws from Brock to start the Seahawks rain game in the playoffs. The weather improved and he clearly did as well. What would've happened in Chicago when the weather was worse to start, got worse as the game went along and there was no CMC, no Kittle and even Mitchell went out early all while the OL played like garbage? Think he's the same player we saw later in the season? Does he seize his opportunity the same way? Or does the timing and circumstances of the opportunity matter?

The weather was fine until the 2nd half. Trey was f**king awful in the game. Missed wide open guys against the worst team in the league. It was an embarrassing performance.

I was at the game.

You are wrong.

That very day set RECORDS for rainfall in the city of Chicago. I was more wet than I had ever been in my life; the field was drenched even during warmups before the game.

Plus Trey was our best offensive player that day - offensive line played like sh** and Deebo fumbled at the 7 yard line in the first quarter when we were driving for a score.

This is why when Jimmy played like ass vs the Redskins in that super s**tty weather in DC when we won 9-0 I threw out that game completely as you cannot judge a QB in those conditions.

BUT oline was never an excuse for Jimmy.

Justin fields.played in that same weather and was somehow able to throw a couple end of the game tds against a superior defense.

Oline has been getting better every year here, and it wasn't bad for Jimmy since 2018.

I'm so confused. Make it make sense

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't worry about Brock's interceptions in practice and that goes for other QBs.

But you know very well had that been Lance it would be an issue for YOU and some others in here. That's part of the issue.

The other issue is the simple fact that if Brock is playing Trey cannot play in games that do matter to show us whether he's better or not. Some of you guys are fighting tooth and nail to still downplay Trey's clear improvement and refuse to acknowledge the different situations Trey and Brock found themselves in last year when each was called upon to start.

We saw some HORRIBLE throws from Brock to start the Seahawks rain game in the playoffs. The weather improved and he clearly did as well. What would've happened in Chicago when the weather was worse to start, got worse as the game went along and there was no CMC, no Kittle and even Mitchell went out early all while the OL played like garbage? Think he's the same player we saw later in the season? Does he seize his opportunity the same way? Or does the timing and circumstances of the opportunity matter?

The weather was fine until the 2nd half. Trey was f**king awful in the game. Missed wide open guys against the worst team in the league. It was an embarrassing performance.

You have no clue what you're talking about. The field was awful from the start of the game. There are plenty of videos and pictures of the field before kickoff showing how terrible it was.

I've gone back and rewatched the game many times to see how Trey played and the circumstances around each play. "Embarrassing performance" it wasn't and all of you trying to paint it as such is a pathetic attempt to dog the kid further.

It wasn't just Trey struggling that day either. Trent Williams and McGlinchey both getting worked by a 5th round rookie DE for the Bears who barely touched the QB the rest of that season. 3 new starters on the OL, bad penalties, drops…but sure pretend Trey was embarrassing.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't worry about Brock's interceptions in practice and that goes for other QBs.

But you know very well had that been Lance it would be an issue for YOU and some others in here. That's part of the issue.

The other issue is the simple fact that if Brock is playing Trey cannot play in games that do matter to show us whether he's better or not. Some of you guys are fighting tooth and nail to still downplay Trey's clear improvement and refuse to acknowledge the different situations Trey and Brock found themselves in last year when each was called upon to start.

We saw some HORRIBLE throws from Brock to start the Seahawks rain game in the playoffs. The weather improved and he clearly did as well. What would've happened in Chicago when the weather was worse to start, got worse as the game went along and there was no CMC, no Kittle and even Mitchell went out early all while the OL played like garbage? Think he's the same player we saw later in the season? Does he seize his opportunity the same way? Or does the timing and circumstances of the opportunity matter?

The bigger issue is if it was Trey who performed as well as Brock did last season and had that 7 game winning streak, some of YOU would have anointed Trey as the next great QB. But because it was Brock who did that, some of you deemed as just 7 games not enough sample size, and he might regressed, and that Trey should have a "fair chance" to compete for the starting role.

You quoting the wrong guy there chief. You won't find a single bad post about Brock from me so don't come at me with that garbage.

And if Trey played like Brock I'd be hella excited, just like I am about Brock but whether Brock, Trey or Jesus Montana 4 or 8 games isn't enough sample size to know for sure.

But good job ignoring the rest of the post and trying to move goalposts again. Great way to have a discussion if you ignore everything that's poking holes in your takes and trying to flip the argument into something else that doesn't even fit the person you're talking to.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't worry about Brock's interceptions in practice and that goes for other QBs.

But you know very well had that been Lance it would be an issue for YOU and some others in here. That's part of the issue.

The other issue is the simple fact that if Brock is playing Trey cannot play in games that do matter to show us whether he's better or not. Some of you guys are fighting tooth and nail to still downplay Trey's clear improvement and refuse to acknowledge the different situations Trey and Brock found themselves in last year when each was called upon to start.

We saw some HORRIBLE throws from Brock to start the Seahawks rain game in the playoffs. The weather improved and he clearly did as well. What would've happened in Chicago when the weather was worse to start, got worse as the game went along and there was no CMC, no Kittle and even Mitchell went out early all while the OL played like garbage? Think he's the same player we saw later in the season? Does he seize his opportunity the same way? Or does the timing and circumstances of the opportunity matter?

The weather was fine until the 2nd half. Trey was f**king awful in the game. Missed wide open guys against the worst team in the league. It was an embarrassing performance.

I was at the game.

You are wrong.

That very day set RECORDS for rainfall in the city of Chicago. I was more wet than I had ever been in my life; the field was drenched even during warmups before the game.

Plus Trey was our best offensive player that day - offensive line played like sh** and Deebo fumbled at the 7 yard line in the first quarter when we were driving for a score.

This is why when Jimmy played like ass vs the Redskins in that super s**tty weather in DC when we won 9-0 I threw out that game completely as you cannot judge a QB in those conditions.

BUT oline was never an excuse for Jimmy.

Justin fields.played in that same weather and was somehow able to throw a couple end of the game tds against a superior defense.

Oline has been getting better every year here, and it wasn't bad for Jimmy since 2018.

I'm so confused. Make it make sense

Will it matter to you? We've talked about that game so many times in this thread. Clearly the Bears(at home) we're not impacted by the weather as much as the 49ers were.

Whether that bad is a talent equalizer. I was worried about the weather before the game and my wife thought I was crazy but it made a big impact.

You want to compare Lance to Fields? How many games did Fields play before that one? If we're talking NFL level throws and types of throws that translate to long term success in this league then Trey made more of them in that game.

Fields had like 70% of his passing yards on 3 plays. All 3 of them happened after the 49ers D committed bad penalties extending Bear drives on what should've been punts and change of possession. Fields' pick in that game was so much worse than the one Trey threw. But cuz of the timing and cuz Fields got TDs on the 2 broken plays some of you act like it was smooth sailing for the guy and Trey just sucked.

Laughable. PFF had Lance with the higher big time throw % in week 1. All those throws he supposedly missed…wonder if Kittle is out there he manages to run down the missed throw to Kroft? How many times you think they got to work on that timing with Kroft vs Kittle? But right…those are just excuses.

Jennings not being able to keep himself inbounds cuz of the footing - Trey's fault.

Deebo fumbling in the red zone - Treys fault.

Mitchell injury - Trey's fault.

Brock goes out there in better conditions vs Seattle and loses control of the ball in ugly way on some first few throws and nobody cares cuz of the final result.

When Trey does it but doesn't have the finish Brock had apparently it's just excuses and an embarrassment.

Cool..

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by frenchmov:
However you want to define it. I consider losing to the worst team in the league, which has zero points and negative yards at halftime, an embarrassment.

I consider football to be a team sport.

Unless the niners lose when Jimmy is the qb. Then it's his fault entirely.

Yes football is a team sport, but qb play is a huge factor even it comes to wins and losses.

Dude. A new season is about to start, Jimmy is gone. Get over it. There have been countless posts all about these same things, but a new season is about to start and continuing to bring up your grievances about Jimmy look pathetic.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't worry about Brock's interceptions in practice and that goes for other QBs.

But you know very well had that been Lance it would be an issue for YOU and some others in here. That's part of the issue.

The other issue is the simple fact that if Brock is playing Trey cannot play in games that do matter to show us whether he's better or not. Some of you guys are fighting tooth and nail to still downplay Trey's clear improvement and refuse to acknowledge the different situations Trey and Brock found themselves in last year when each was called upon to start.

We saw some HORRIBLE throws from Brock to start the Seahawks rain game in the playoffs. The weather improved and he clearly did as well. What would've happened in Chicago when the weather was worse to start, got worse as the game went along and there was no CMC, no Kittle and even Mitchell went out early all while the OL played like garbage? Think he's the same player we saw later in the season? Does he seize his opportunity the same way? Or does the timing and circumstances of the opportunity matter?

The bigger issue is if it was Trey who performed as well as Brock did last season and had that 7 game winning streak, some of YOU would have anointed Trey as the next great QB. But because it was Brock who did that, some of you deemed as just 7 games not enough sample size, and he might regressed, and that Trey should have a "fair chance" to compete for the starting role.

You quoting the wrong guy there chief. You won't find a single bad post about Brock from me so don't come at me with that garbage.

And if Trey played like Brock I'd be hella excited, just like I am about Brock but whether Brock, Trey or Jesus Montana 4 or 8 games isn't enough sample size to know for sure.

But good job ignoring the rest of the post and trying to move goalposts again. Great way to have a discussion if you ignore everything that's poking holes in your takes and trying to flip the argument into something else that doesn't even fit the person you're talking to.

Not sure why you think I have to respond to your whole post. That wasn't even a response about what I posted. I just saw the section bolded and wrote my thoughts about that. I also don't understand what you meant about "move goalpost again", or "poking holes in my takes", or "try to flip the argument". What are you even talking about? So weird.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't worry about Brock's interceptions in practice and that goes for other QBs.

But you know very well had that been Lance it would be an issue for YOU and some others in here. That's part of the issue.

The other issue is the simple fact that if Brock is playing Trey cannot play in games that do matter to show us whether he's better or not. Some of you guys are fighting tooth and nail to still downplay Trey's clear improvement and refuse to acknowledge the different situations Trey and Brock found themselves in last year when each was called upon to start.

We saw some HORRIBLE throws from Brock to start the Seahawks rain game in the playoffs. The weather improved and he clearly did as well. What would've happened in Chicago when the weather was worse to start, got worse as the game went along and there was no CMC, no Kittle and even Mitchell went out early all while the OL played like garbage? Think he's the same player we saw later in the season? Does he seize his opportunity the same way? Or does the timing and circumstances of the opportunity matter?

The bigger issue is if it was Trey who performed as well as Brock did last season and had that 7 game winning streak, some of YOU would have anointed Trey as the next great QB. But because it was Brock who did that, some of you deemed as just 7 games not enough sample size, and he might regressed, and that Trey should have a "fair chance" to compete for the starting role.

You quoting the wrong guy there chief. You won't find a single bad post about Brock from me so don't come at me with that garbage.

And if Trey played like Brock I'd be hella excited, just like I am about Brock but whether Brock, Trey or Jesus Montana 4 or 8 games isn't enough sample size to know for sure.

But good job ignoring the rest of the post and trying to move goalposts again. Great way to have a discussion if you ignore everything that's poking holes in your takes and trying to flip the argument into something else that doesn't even fit the person you're talking to.

Not sure why you think I have to respond to your whole post. That wasn't even a response about what I posted. I just saw the section bolded and wrote my thoughts about that. I also don't understand what you meant about "move goalpost again", or "poking holes in my takes", or "try to flip the argument". What are you even talking about? So weird.

It's not that complicated. If you struggle to understand why responding to someone who broke down multiple points and you simply respond to one and jump to a ridiculous conclusion while doing it…then maybe skip it next time.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't worry about Brock's interceptions in practice and that goes for other QBs.

But you know very well had that been Lance it would be an issue for YOU and some others in here. That's part of the issue.

The other issue is the simple fact that if Brock is playing Trey cannot play in games that do matter to show us whether he's better or not. Some of you guys are fighting tooth and nail to still downplay Trey's clear improvement and refuse to acknowledge the different situations Trey and Brock found themselves in last year when each was called upon to start.

We saw some HORRIBLE throws from Brock to start the Seahawks rain game in the playoffs. The weather improved and he clearly did as well. What would've happened in Chicago when the weather was worse to start, got worse as the game went along and there was no CMC, no Kittle and even Mitchell went out early all while the OL played like garbage? Think he's the same player we saw later in the season? Does he seize his opportunity the same way? Or does the timing and circumstances of the opportunity matter?

The bigger issue is if it was Trey who performed as well as Brock did last season and had that 7 game winning streak, some of YOU would have anointed Trey as the next great QB. But because it was Brock who did that, some of you deemed as just 7 games not enough sample size, and he might regressed, and that Trey should have a "fair chance" to compete for the starting role.

You quoting the wrong guy there chief. You won't find a single bad post about Brock from me so don't come at me with that garbage.

And if Trey played like Brock I'd be hella excited, just like I am about Brock but whether Brock, Trey or Jesus Montana 4 or 8 games isn't enough sample size to know for sure.

But good job ignoring the rest of the post and trying to move goalposts again. Great way to have a discussion if you ignore everything that's poking holes in your takes and trying to flip the argument into something else that doesn't even fit the person you're talking to.

Not sure why you think I have to respond to your whole post. That wasn't even a response about what I posted. I just saw the section bolded and wrote my thoughts about that. I also don't understand what you meant about "move goalpost again", or "poking holes in my takes", or "try to flip the argument". What are you even talking about? So weird.

It's not that complicated. If you struggle to understand why responding to someone who broke down multiple points and you simply respond to one and jump to a ridiculous conclusion while doing it…then maybe skip it next time.

I moved the goalpost again? Meaning I moved it multiple times? What was the goalpost you were referring? If you don't know what you are talking about just don't post next time.

I can't wait to see Trey for a half. I finally deleted most of the Brock games from late last year today. I kept Tampa as a memory down the road. Think I've watched that game 15 times as sick as that is. Was awesome.

I want to see Trey do the same. Let's go! Recording set and ready for 9er football. Don't give a s**t about Sam tomorrow. Hope Trey says kiss my ass I'm ready.

Go 9ers!

Lance honestly reminds me of Jalen Hurts in some ways.

It's not just their style of play, but I think their leadership style is very similar. Neither seem to be rah rah guys. I mean, Hurts has literally been reported as being soft spoken and monotone at times lol. That said, both guys are raved about as being mature beyond their years, big-time competitors on the field, and more so the "lead by example" types.

Jalen made big improvements each year, including his third year this past season making it to the Super Bowl. I'm hoping Trey can make the same kind of jumps if he winds up playing a lot of games for us while earning the team's respect as a leader. I know it's a bit of an adjustment from Jimmy to Brock to Trey. They just ain't the same personality. But if you're winning games, no ones gonna care if you're yelling at guys or not.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Is Trey's rookie contract fully guaranteed if he gets injured?

my understanding, yes, it's fully gtd without injury, so fully gtd, regardless

Thats great to hear, also why he always looks like he's having a great time.

He's winning regardless LOL

$34 million to put up with this crap seems like a great deal. Set for life