Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
No i wouldnt because preseason is stupid.

Nate sudfield threw for 200 yards. Drew Locke threw for 200yards and 2 tds.

Why are you keeping up with stupid stats and results then?

If it's so stupid, you are free to not follow and simply skip it.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
So if Trey isn't being pulled early, perhaps he hasn't really separate himself from Sam.

Lol. I can assure that Trey's career dream doesn't include separating himself from Sam Darnold. He has much higher goals than that.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
If Trey plays well (2TDs in the 1st QTR or something).. Kyle might pull him early to get a good look at Sam.. and get Allen in there later in the game.

If it is true that Trey has seperated himself from Sam, then I'm sure Kyle would want to get a good look at BOTH Sam and Allen.

So if Trey isn't being pulled early, perhaps he hasn't really separate himself from Sam.

In spite of KS saying Lance will play the entire first half, you find a way to say if he does exactly what KS stated that he somehow is the same as Darnold.
Your logic is outstanding.

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
If Trey plays well (2TDs in the 1st QTR or something).. Kyle might pull him early to get a good look at Sam.. and get Allen in there later in the game.

If it is true that Trey has seperated himself from Sam, then I'm sure Kyle would want to get a good look at BOTH Sam and Allen.

So if Trey isn't being pulled early, perhaps he hasn't really separate himself from Sam.

In spite of KS saying Lance will play the entire first half, you find a way to say if he does exactly what KS stated that he somehow is the same as Darnold.
Your logic is outstanding.

I actually was just trying to understand Afrikan was saying and implying.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
If Trey plays well (2TDs in the 1st QTR or something).. Kyle might pull him early to get a good look at Sam.. and get Allen in there later in the game.

If it is true that Trey has seperated himself from Sam, then I'm sure Kyle would want to get a good look at BOTH Sam and Allen.

So if Trey isn't being pulled early, perhaps he hasn't really separate himself from Sam.

In spite of KS saying Lance will play the entire first half, you find a way to say if he does exactly what KS stated that he somehow is the same as Darnold.
Your logic is outstanding.

I actually was just trying to understand Afrikan was saying and implying.

I know football. Trey is better than Darnold and he is just getting started as a relative NOOB to the position. Darnold is what he is and he may get to improve as Steve Young did but he does not have the tools Trey has and seemingly he does not have the same work ethic either. Trey is gonna be QB2 and Brock better play well this season to keep QB1. The op 3 QBs should be Brock Trey and Darnold

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Brock 23/43 w/ 4 picks today.

Lance gets 2 attempts...

Lance has had the better camp so better be a short leash for Brock after how he played today. Lance needed those 43 attempts far more than Brock so we could have more data points on his improvement or lack thereof since when else would he get those reps.

That would be a good poll question - how short is the leash - if we are 4-3 or worse and BP playing mediocre do we make a switch?

At this point with the 49ers approach here apparently, Brock better be Joe ****ing Montana and win us a Lombardi OR Trey better bust.

Yes. Base what you see in training camp and practice.

Oh by the way nick Mullens went 14-20 with 140 yards and a td yesterday. Lets get heeeem back preseason HOF

I don't worry about Brock's interceptions in practice and that goes for other QBs.

But you know very well had that been Lance it would be an issue for YOU and some others in here. That's part of the issue.

The other issue is the simple fact that if Brock is playing Trey cannot play in games that do matter to show us whether he's better or not. Some of you guys are fighting tooth and nail to still downplay Trey's clear improvement and refuse to acknowledge the different situations Trey and Brock found themselves in last year when each was called upon to start.

We saw some HORRIBLE throws from Brock to start the Seahawks rain game in the playoffs. The weather improved and he clearly did as well. What would've happened in Chicago when the weather was worse to start, got worse as the game went along and there was no CMC, no Kittle and even Mitchell went out early all while the OL played like garbage? Think he's the same player we saw later in the season? Does he seize his opportunity the same way? Or does the timing and circumstances of the opportunity matter?

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
If Trey plays well (2TDs in the 1st QTR or something).. Kyle might pull him early to get a good look at Sam.. and get Allen in there later in the game.

If it is true that Trey has seperated himself from Sam, then I'm sure Kyle would want to get a good look at BOTH Sam and Allen.

So if Trey isn't being pulled early, perhaps he hasn't really separate himself from Sam.

If Trey doesn't get pulled early, then Trey (or the offense) wasn't playing as well on each drive.. and Kyle would want to see some consistency before the half ends.

I don't think Kyle wants some of our starting offensive line to stay out there that long.. and if he does pull them, then that leaves their top back up, who might be needed to start sometime in the season, vulnerable. So if their top back up is playing well, then that gives him an excuse to rest the remaining starters....imo.

I don't know how many starting OLmen will even play which is what scares me. Guys will just have to step up cuz it sounded like they were getting worked in practice but I'm excited to see what Trey can do with more snaps and my own eyes so I don't have to rely on others to explain what happened and leave out key details in some reports.

Hey finally get to see some football. That's nice. I don't expect anything crazy either way.

Honestly I think Brock needs the reps all the same.

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't worry about Brock's interceptions in practice and that goes for other QBs.

But you know very well had that been Lance it would be an issue for YOU and some others in here. That's part of the issue.

The other issue is the simple fact that if Brock is playing Trey cannot play in games that do matter to show us whether he's better or not. Some of you guys are fighting tooth and nail to still downplay Trey's clear improvement and refuse to acknowledge the different situations Trey and Brock found themselves in last year when each was called upon to start.

We saw some HORRIBLE throws from Brock to start the Seahawks rain game in the playoffs. The weather improved and he clearly did as well. What would've happened in Chicago when the weather was worse to start, got worse as the game went along and there was no CMC, no Kittle and even Mitchell went out early all while the OL played like garbage? Think he's the same player we saw later in the season? Does he seize his opportunity the same way? Or does the timing and circumstances of the opportunity matter?

I mean I don't want to worry about the INTs in practice, but the film showed Brock putting the balls in harms way a little too much for my liking last yr. Jimmy was very similar in 2017…the ball just didn't get caught by the defense those times. Brock was known for that in college as well.

im cool with the gunslinger mentality, I'm okay with some INTs if you can make up for it with explosives.

we will see, we all know kyle isn't really running anything special during these joint practices and in preseason games.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean I don't want to worry about the INTs in practice, but the film showed Brock putting the balls in harms way a little too much for my liking last yr. Jimmy was very similar in 2017…the ball just didn't get caught by the defense those times. Brock was known for that in college as well.

im cool with the gunslinger mentality, I'm okay with some INTs if you can make up for it with explosives.

we will see, we all know kyle isn't really running anything special during these joint practices and in preseason games.

I think ultimately though the ints do matter. People wanna bring up Jimmy throwing 5 ints in one practice but hey they went 8-0. Yeah but remember the beginning of that season? Jimmy was pretty meh until idk week 6 or 7 and the team kinda carried him especially the run game and defense. Will they do the same if Brock is playing meh? We'll see.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't worry about Brock's interceptions in practice and that goes for other QBs.

But you know very well had that been Lance it would be an issue for YOU and some others in here. That's part of the issue.

The other issue is the simple fact that if Brock is playing Trey cannot play in games that do matter to show us whether he's better or not. Some of you guys are fighting tooth and nail to still downplay Trey's clear improvement and refuse to acknowledge the different situations Trey and Brock found themselves in last year when each was called upon to start.

We saw some HORRIBLE throws from Brock to start the Seahawks rain game in the playoffs. The weather improved and he clearly did as well. What would've happened in Chicago when the weather was worse to start, got worse as the game went along and there was no CMC, no Kittle and even Mitchell went out early all while the OL played like garbage? Think he's the same player we saw later in the season? Does he seize his opportunity the same way? Or does the timing and circumstances of the opportunity matter?

I mean I don't want to worry about the INTs in practice, but the film showed Brock putting the balls in harms way a little too much for my liking last yr. Jimmy was very similar in 2017…the ball just didn't get caught by the defense those times. Brock was known for that in college as well.

im cool with the gunslinger mentality, I'm okay with some INTs if you can make up for it with explosives.

we will see, we all know kyle isn't really running anything special during these joint practices and in preseason games.

Per PFF, Purdy had 3.1% of his passes turnover worthy during regular season .

But his last 4 games (not including NFCCG) , he had a 1.6%. That would have been the best amongst all QBs

jimmy G has a career average of 3.6%

If I had to guess, shanny will give darnold the entire first half in the 2nd preseason game and Trey the 2nd half, just to make things equitable. And because he has some hardon for darnold that makes no frigging sense.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't worry about Brock's interceptions in practice and that goes for other QBs.

But you know very well had that been Lance it would be an issue for YOU and some others in here. That's part of the issue.

The other issue is the simple fact that if Brock is playing Trey cannot play in games that do matter to show us whether he's better or not. Some of you guys are fighting tooth and nail to still downplay Trey's clear improvement and refuse to acknowledge the different situations Trey and Brock found themselves in last year when each was called upon to start.

We saw some HORRIBLE throws from Brock to start the Seahawks rain game in the playoffs. The weather improved and he clearly did as well. What would've happened in Chicago when the weather was worse to start, got worse as the game went along and there was no CMC, no Kittle and even Mitchell went out early all while the OL played like garbage? Think he's the same player we saw later in the season? Does he seize his opportunity the same way? Or does the timing and circumstances of the opportunity matter?

I mean I don't want to worry about the INTs in practice, but the film showed Brock putting the balls in harms way a little too much for my liking last yr. Jimmy was very similar in 2017…the ball just didn't get caught by the defense those times. Brock was known for that in college as well.

im cool with the gunslinger mentality, I'm okay with some INTs if you can make up for it with explosives.

we will see, we all know kyle isn't really running anything special during these joint practices and in preseason games.

Per PFF, Purdy had 3.1% of his passes turnover worthy during regular season .

But his last 4 games (not including NFCCG) , he had a 1.6%. That would have been the best amongst all QBs

jimmy G has a career average of 3.6%

Trey has a career 3.8% TWP percentage. So I would like to see all of our QB's get that cleaned up.

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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
If I had to guess, shanny will give darnold the entire first half in the 2nd preseason game and Trey the 2nd half, just to make things equitable. And because he has some hardon for darnold that makes no frigging sense.

For us let's hope they both look great. I think there's a chance if they do we trade one to a team that needs a QB and offers us some value. What that value is I'm sure the WZ has some ideas.