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Originally posted by Furlow:
Well the question is if we did that, would we even get to the playoffs? Seems like we'd have to endure a lot of mistakes or win ugly, based on the way Kyle felt he had to call the games that Trey played in. Agreed about Purdy, as I've said a few times, he really exposed Jimmy and Trey's weaknesses. He seems to fit perfectly with Kyle and they look unstoppable together.

Unstoppable until he didn't step up into the pocket
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Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Well the question is if we did that, would we even get to the playoffs? Seems like we'd have to endure a lot of mistakes or win ugly, based on the way Kyle felt he had to call the games that Trey played in. Agreed about Purdy, as I've said a few times, he really exposed Jimmy and Trey's weaknesses. He seems to fit perfectly with Kyle and they look unstoppable together.

Unstoppable until he didn't step up into the pocket

Or maybe we shouldn't have had a backup TE trying to go one on one versus one of the NFL's best pass rushers?
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Well the question is if we did that, would we even get to the playoffs? Seems like we'd have to endure a lot of mistakes or win ugly, based on the way Kyle felt he had to call the games that Trey played in. Agreed about Purdy, as I've said a few times, he really exposed Jimmy and Trey's weaknesses. He seems to fit perfectly with Kyle and they look unstoppable together.

Unstoppable until he didn't step up into the pocket

Or maybe we shouldn't have had a backup TE trying to go one on one versus one of the NFL's best pass rushers?

This, of course. It was a poor play call if you expected that to work out.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Well the question is if we did that, would we even get to the playoffs? Seems like we'd have to endure a lot of mistakes or win ugly, based on the way Kyle felt he had to call the games that Trey played in. Agreed about Purdy, as I've said a few times, he really exposed Jimmy and Trey's weaknesses. He seems to fit perfectly with Kyle and they look unstoppable together.

There's also the question of whether one season is enough time for him to improve significantly, or whether he actually improves at all. It's definitely not guaranteed.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
This, of course. It was a poor play call if you expected that to work out.

Brock definitely failed to help himself there. He was extremely good in terms of awareness, especially for a rookie, but that play was an example of the opposite. It's ok, even if the result was devastating. It was just bad luck it resulted in a serious injury.

There's no comparison between his awareness and our backups at this juncture.
I think it would be a mistake to trade him now unless there is a legit back up plan for qb 2. I have absolutely zero confidence in Darnold, he flat out sucks. How much would the team still owe Trey if they traded him? Unless they feel Allen can be the backup, I would just hold on to Trey in case we need him this year.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
This, of course. It was a poor play call if you expected that to work out.

Brock definitely failed to help himself there. He was extremely good in terms of awareness, especially for a rookie, but that play was an example of the opposite. It's ok, even if the result was devastating. It was just bad luck it resulted in a serious injury.

There's no comparison between his awareness and our backups at this juncture.

With McGlinchy and Kroft both whiffing immediately on their assignments there wasn't much time to do anything to help himself. I don't think he can teleport and he didn't have much room to step up. About all he could've done was Tom Brady it and flop. Which he should've done. He's gonna have to learn to play smarter in those situations.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
With McGlinchy and Kroft both whiffing immediately on their assignments there wasn't much time to do anything to help himself. I don't think he can teleport and he didn't have much room to step up. About all he could've done was Tom Brady it and flop. Which he should've done. He's gonna have to learn to play smarter in those situations.

There's no reason to think he won't, especially given his awareness and pocket poise was pretty exceptional all things considered. He's just not perfect and never will be.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I don't think we will trade him until we've done everything we can to improve his trade value.

I would love to know what Trey Lance's perceived value is among actual football people in front offices. I know in this thread the loud posters believe that he has no value. But I have to assume that most people who get paid to do this for a living have a fundamental understanding that its stupid to place judgment on a young QB after 4 games.

I'd be willing to bet his value is substantially higher among NFL front offices than it seems to be in this thread. What that value is, I dont know.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I would love to know what Trey Lance's perceived value is among actual football people in front offices. I know in this thread the loud posters believe that he has no value. But I have to assume that most people who get paid to do this for a living have a fundamental understanding that its stupid to place judgment on a young QB after 4 games.

I'd be willing to bet his value is substantially higher among NFL front offices than it seems to be in this thread. What that value is, I dont know.

Your premise for why some think his trade value might be lower than expected is flawed. It's not simply about passing judgement on Trey Lance after 4 regular season starts, and people who are paid to do this for a living certainly understand this.

My opinion is that the vast majority of people here probably estimate his trade value higher than it actually is… and I think I was one of them, at least prior to the past draft.
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Well the question is if we did that, would we even get to the playoffs? Seems like we'd have to endure a lot of mistakes or win ugly, based on the way Kyle felt he had to call the games that Trey played in. Agreed about Purdy, as I've said a few times, he really exposed Jimmy and Trey's weaknesses. He seems to fit perfectly with Kyle and they look unstoppable together.

Unstoppable until he didn't step up into the pocket

Or maybe we shouldn't have had a backup TE trying to go one on one versus one of the NFL's best pass rushers?

This, of course. It was a poor play call if you expected that to work out.

Maybe if Brock Purdy had a little more experience he would've gotten rid of the ball faster or changed things up pre-snap. I do think things might've been different if Kittle was blocking Reddick.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
This, of course. It was a poor play call if you expected that to work out.

Brock definitely failed to help himself there. He was extremely good in terms of awareness, especially for a rookie, but that play was an example of the opposite. It's ok, even if the result was devastating. It was just bad luck it resulted in a serious injury.

There's no comparison between his awareness and our backups at this juncture.

With McGlinchy and Kroft both whiffing immediately on their assignments there wasn't much time to do anything to help himself. I don't think he can teleport and he didn't have much room to step up. About all he could've done was Tom Brady it and flop. Which he should've done. He's gonna have to learn to play smarter in those situations.

I feel for the most part Purdy has done a good job protecting himself, that was just unfortunate and if he was a vet probably would've done better in that situation. But I won't expect him to be perfect this early.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Maybe if Brock Purdy had a little more experience he would've gotten rid of the ball faster or changed things up pre-snap. I do think things might've been different if Kittle was blocking Reddick.

He stood there like a sitting duck and got absolutely blasted. There were a variety of things he could have done if he had seen/felt that rusher, but it is what it is.

That was an aggressive play call. Shows the trust Kyle had in Purdy. Should be a positive going forward provided Brock stays on the same trajectory.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I would love to know what Trey Lance's perceived value is among actual football people in front offices. I know in this thread the loud posters believe that he has no value. But I have to assume that most people who get paid to do this for a living have a fundamental understanding that its stupid to place judgment on a young QB after 4 games.

I'd be willing to bet his value is substantially higher among NFL front offices than it seems to be in this thread. What that value is, I dont know.

Your premise for why some think his trade value might be lower than expected is flawed. It's not simply about passing judgement on Trey Lance after 4 regular season starts, and people who are paid to do this for a living certainly understand this.

My opinion is that the vast majority of people here probably estimate his trade value higher than it actually is… and I think I was one of them, at least prior to the past draft.

Your opinion is flawed just the same since we have no idea what Trey's actual trade value is ATM.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Your opinion is flawed just the same since we have no idea what Trey's actual trade value is ATM.

Yea, that's why I used words like probably, and estimate. Nothing definitive there clearly. We have years worth of trades around the league to help glean information to form a decent estimate, in addition to whatever personal evaluation one might have towards Trey.

Either way, it's not hard to realize his trade value doesn't simply rely on a judgement of Trey Lance after 4 regular season starts.
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