Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Not only what you said, but Cam was recruited as a qb, and the reason Trey went to division 1-AA NDSU is because the division 1-A schools that offered him a scholarship wanted to move him to safety.

He got an offer from Boise State to play QB. He turned it down because he already committed to NDSU.

That doesn't stop players from switching commitments, they do it all the time.

NDSU was home for him, or closer to it, he wanted to play for Minnesota but they wouldn't offer Lance to play QB, maybe to play something else

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm excited to see Trey now that he doesn't have a shattered ankle and no longer has to sip his tea with his pinky finger out.

The only current injury he has is a broken hairline.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm excited to see Trey now that he doesn't have a shattered ankle and no longer has to sip his tea with his pinky finger out.

The only current injury he has is a broken hairline.

surprised Jed hasn't hooked him up the hair in a can spray on solution yet

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
He had to come in with no starting reps against the Dolphins, then had to play against Tom Brady his first start, not Justin Fields. Had to come back against the Raiders when the defense collapsed and they got down by 10 on the road. If you think Brock had everything go his way, you are just flat out wrong. Just because he made it look easier than Trey due to his understanding of the game bring more advanced doesn't mean he had everything go his way.

He didn't play against Tom Brady. He played against a Tampa bay defense that was a shell of itself. they suck and got into the playoffs because someone had to come out of the NFCS.

lol the raiders…yeah that's a real top shelf defense

bro come on now. He got thrusted onto a team that was on a multi game winning streak, chalk full of elite talent, and has one of the games best play callers. Don't make it sound like he got tossed onto the Texans and just balled out.

yes Brock made the most of his opportunities but let's stop making up stuff.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Not only what you said, but Cam was recruited as a qb, and the reason Trey went to division 1-AA NDSU is because the division 1-A schools that offered him a scholarship wanted to move him to safety.

He got an offer from Boise State to play QB. He turned it down because he already committed to NDSU.

That doesn't stop players from switching commitments, they do it all the time.

What's your point? He got offered a QB scholarship at a D1 college. He chose to stay at the place that was closer to home and wanted him from day 1.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Uh, why not? JUCO is a significantly lower level of competition than FCS.

Because the narrative dude! He played vs Trinity Valley Community College and those reps were vastly important…that's like me playing against mod b basketball kids and saying I got better from it 😆

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
surprised Jed hasn't hooked him up the hair in a can spray on solution yet

Just get a fade and call it a day. Maybe he can call LBJ and talk to his hair plug guy 😝

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Cam has 500 pass attempts in college when you factor in his year at JUCO, where he dominated and won everything.

Dude who cares about JUCO snaps? He was 5 star recruit at 6-5 235lbs. He was a 20 yr old beating up on community college programs there. Bravo.

Let's stop trying to make this a cam vs Lance debate. It's not. He played minimal football come into the NFL. He played on an offense that was in no shape comparable to a NFL offense at Auburn.

we get it Lance doesn't have a million reps under his belt. We've had this convo over and over before he was even taken here. It's why he needs to play.

You can't knock his reps at a JUCO and then think FCS reps mean anything for Lance. Reps are reps. I'm hoping that his time in this system over there last 2+ systems helps him get up to speed quickly. Even though it isn't live reps, besides some in training camp, it should be familiar to him at this point

outside of Brock not being able to play, I think we only see Lance in trick packages. Similar to what Kyle did with Jimmy but should be much more effective with a guy like Purdy who has one mobility

Uh, why not? JUCO is a significantly lower level of competition than FCS.

Because the best players in FCS were on his team. NDSU stacks the deck. A years worth of barely throwing the ball in the FCS, with Christian Watson as a #1, might be easier than some JUCO QBs have it

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Lol, not it didn't.

How so?

He had to come in with no starting reps against the Dolphins, then had to play against Tom Brady his first start, not Justin Fields. Had to come back against the Raiders when the defense collapsed and they got down by 10 on the road. If you think Brock had everything go his way, you are just flat out wrong. Just because he made it look easier than Trey due to his understanding of the game bring more advanced doesn't mean he had everything go his way.

I'm not sure how playing against Tom Brady was adversity when the game was a shutout until late. Justin Fields put up more points against our defense in both of the games we've played against him.

Everything else you mentioned just doesn't seem like that big of a deal or is at least something that every NFL QB has to do. Not every QB gets to come in and play with this many weapons on offense that had been in-rhythm with one of the best play callers and the #1 defense. Not every QB gets to play 6 of their first 8 games at home and not even leave the West Coast until the NFC Championship game. Brock played well, I'm not knocking him, but I do find it absurd that someone would say that he overcame a lot of adversity as a starter.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I'm not sure how playing against Tom Brady was adversity when the game was a shutout until late. Justin Fields put up more points against our defense in both of the games we've played against him.

Everything else you mentioned just doesn't seem like that big of a deal or is at least something that every NFL QB has to do. Not every QB gets to come in and play with this many weapons on offense that had been in-rhythm with one of the best play callers and the #1 defense. Not every QB gets to play 6 of their first 8 games at home and not even leave the West Coast until the NFC Championship game. Brock played well, I'm not knocking him, but I do find it absurd that someone would say that he overcame a lot of adversity as a starter.

lets wait and see how many more centuries it would take for another Mr Irrelevant to make roster, go undefeated as QB1, start for multiple playoff dubs, including a near 50 spot in postseason

the dude blew up his throwing arm and he went back into the football game

adversity as pick 262 is making roster, your career is on the line day 1 of rook camp and most picks that late don't make the team, they bounce from PS to PS then have careers selling insurance

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Because the best players in FCS were on his team. NDSU stacks the deck. A years worth of barely throwing the ball in the FCS, with Christian Watson as a #1, might be easier than some JUCO QBs have it

Kinda like handing it off to a 1st round RB while throwing to 2 1st round WR's and a 2nd round WR, and having blocking from 2 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Because the best players in FCS were on his team. NDSU stacks the deck. A years worth of barely throwing the ball in the FCS, with Christian Watson as a #1, might be easier than some JUCO QBs have it

Kinda like handing it off to a 1st round RB while throwing to 2 1st round WR's and a 2nd round WR, and having blocking from 2 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder.

No, lower level college is much easier, even without stacking the deck like NDSU. Just ask Josh Johnson

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I'm not sure how playing against Tom Brady was adversity when the game was a shutout until late. Justin Fields put up more points against our defense in both of the games we've played against him.

Everything else you mentioned just doesn't seem like that big of a deal or is at least something that every NFL QB has to do. Not every QB gets to come in and play with this many weapons on offense that had been in-rhythm with one of the best play callers and the #1 defense. Not every QB gets to play 6 of their first 8 games at home and not even leave the West Coast until the NFC Championship game. Brock played well, I'm not knocking him, but I do find it absurd that someone would say that he overcame a lot of adversity as a starter.

lets wait and see how many more centuries it would take for another Mr Irrelevant to make roster, go undefeated as QB1, start for multiple playoff dubs, including a near 50 spot in postseason

the dude blew up his throwing arm and he went back into the football game

adversity as pick 262 is making roster, your career is on the line day 1 of rook camp and most picks that late don't make the team, they bounce from PS to PS then have careers selling insurance

All of that happened because everything went his way. When things didn't go his way (the NFCCG), it resulted in the worst loss in the NFCCG in franchise history. Not his fault, but its not like he overcame it to win with one arm. I'm not seeing how this supports the original statement that I was responding to that Trey, unlike Brock, needs everything to go his way to succeed.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I'm not sure how playing against Tom Brady was adversity when the game was a shutout until late. Justin Fields put up more points against our defense in both of the games we've played against him.

Everything else you mentioned just doesn't seem like that big of a deal or is at least something that every NFL QB has to do. Not every QB gets to come in and play with this many weapons on offense that had been in-rhythm with one of the best play callers and the #1 defense. Not every QB gets to play 6 of their first 8 games at home and not even leave the West Coast until the NFC Championship game. Brock played well, I'm not knocking him, but I do find it absurd that someone would say that he overcame a lot of adversity as a starter.

lets wait and see how many more centuries it would take for another Mr Irrelevant to make roster, go undefeated as QB1, start for multiple playoff dubs, including a near 50 spot in postseason

the dude blew up his throwing arm and he went back into the football game

adversity as pick 262 is making roster, your career is on the line day 1 of rook camp and most picks that late don't make the team, they bounce from PS to PS then have careers selling insurance

All of that happened because everything went his way. When things didn't go his way (the NFCCG), it resulted in the worst loss in the NFCCG in franchise history. Not his fault, but its not like he overcame it to win with one arm. I'm not seeing how this supports the original statement that I was responding to that Trey, unlike Brock, needs everything to go his way to succeed.

You are comically wrong. Being selected 262 is everything not going his way. That gives him a mountain he needs to climb, simply to get on roster and have an NFL career.

At what point did everything start going his way?

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

I'm not sure how playing against Tom Brady was adversity when the game was a shutout until late. Justin Fields put up more points against our defense in both of the games we've played against him.

Everything else you mentioned just doesn't seem like that big of a deal or is at least something that every NFL QB has to do. Not every QB gets to come in and play with this many weapons on offense that had been in-rhythm with one of the best play callers and the #1 defense. Not every QB gets to play 6 of their first 8 games at home and not even leave the West Coast until the NFC Championship game. Brock played well, I'm not knocking him, but I do find it absurd that someone would say that he overcame a lot of adversity as a starter.

lets wait and see how many more centuries it would take for another Mr Irrelevant to make roster, go undefeated as QB1, start for multiple playoff dubs, including a near 50 spot in postseason

the dude blew up his throwing arm and he went back into the football game

adversity as pick 262 is making roster, your career is on the line day 1 of rook camp and most picks that late don't make the team, they bounce from PS to PS then have careers selling insurance

All of that happened because everything went his way. When things didn't go his way (the NFCCG), it resulted in the worst loss in the NFCCG in franchise history. Not his fault, but its not like he overcame it to win with one arm. I'm not seeing how this supports the original statement that I was responding to that Trey, unlike Brock, needs everything to go his way to succeed.

Everything went his way lol no. I remember CMC dropping a TD pass. Brock just came back and threw another dime

So there's one example where everything didn't go his way. he just came back and made another play so we forgot about it