Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Yeah we'd only trade Lance if the offer is high enough (probably much higher than most "analysts" think). I don't think Purdy is tradable at all right now. He played too well for the 49ers to consider it, unless Trey or Sam actually play extremely well this year too. Both Trey and Darnold have physical talent Purdy doesn't, though. So if either one looks like they might turn the corner, I'm thinking Purdy might actually be the one traded. But probably not until the last year of his contract.

Lance or Darnold, one or the other, would have to be playing at peak years Aaron Rodgers for Shanahan to trade Purdy. The players love Purdy for how he came in and saved the season last year. Purdy has swag that neither of the other two has and the players dig it. Fans love Purdy. He is has that magic Cinderella charisma about him. Most importantly, Kyle loves Purdy. Nope, not getting traded.

Originally posted by dReed209:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
you are getting ahead of things, if BP isnt ready, is it TL or Sam, that's what this offseason is about.. I don't just assume it's TL as next man up, he has to earn it

Well there's your first mistake, there's no question Trey will beat out Sam flipn Darnold. Ridiculous.

actually there are a lot of questions, it's not ridiculous at all, ask Rapsheet, Baldy, Palmer, Gore, Carr, etc.
Darnold brings an almost Jimmy G level of experience to the QB room, 55 starts, and he was a #3 overall like Trey
he is as young as Hendon Hooker, who was just taken in the rookie draft, he is only a year older than Kenny Pickett, who was selected last season

Trey is 23. Darnold is 25

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Comparing Cam's experience level to Trey's feels pretty disingenuous to me. Cam won a junior college national championship the year before he won the D1 national championship at Auburn. JUCO experience isn't groundbreaking, but it's another full year of playing time he had prior to being drafted, not to mention there's no comparison between playing in the SEC and winning a national championship at the D1 level and winning one at NDSU. Cam had more experience and his primary experience was at the highest level of college football.

His experience of meaningful football was 292 passing attempts in the SEC. There's a reason he went to the JUCO league. He was arrested for stealing. cam being vastly more athletic then JUCO players is meh to be. I get it, live reps.

IMO say what you will about NDSU, he was a 19 yr old playing against grown ass men that were 3 and 4 yrs older than him (most of them aren't leaving college after two yrs). He actually ran a NFL caliber offensive scheme. Cam was running something vastly different at Auburn.

Cam still had very little experience coming into the NFL. That's the whole point and it's absolutely true.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
His experience of meaningful football was 292 passing attempts in the SEC. There's a reason he went to the JUCO league. He was arrested for stealing. cam being vastly more athletic then JUCO players is meh to be. I get it, live reps.

IMO say what you will about NDSU, he was a 19 yr old playing against grown ass men that were 3 and 4 yrs older than him (most of them aren't leaving college after two yrs). He actually ran a NFL caliber offensive scheme. Cam was running something vastly different at Auburn.

Cam still had very little experience coming into the NFL. That's the whole point and it's absolutely true.

WTF do you think Trey was in D2?

Originally posted by dj43:
Lance or Darnold, one or the other, would have to be playing at peak years Aaron Rodgers for Shanahan to trade Purdy. The players love Purdy for how he came in and saved the season last year. Purdy has swag that neither of the other two has and the players dig it. Fans love Purdy. He is has that magic Cinderella charisma about him. Most importantly, Kyle loves Purdy. Nope, not getting traded.

And what happens if purdy doesn't play like he did for a couple games this yr? That "swag" disappears. Cinderella turns into a pumpkin. The team then wraps their arms around the next QB that helps them win, and most importantly kyle will move on to the next QB.

I'm not saying any of that can or will happen. Im saying we've turned Brock into some all-pro QB who's untradeable after a couple games. That can all change pretty damn quickly in the NFL.

Originally posted by krizay:
WTF do you think Trey was in D2?

Wait you think Division I FCS is the same as the JUCO league? HAHAHAHA

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dj43:
Lance or Darnold, one or the other, would have to be playing at peak years Aaron Rodgers for Shanahan to trade Purdy. The players love Purdy for how he came in and saved the season last year. Purdy has swag that neither of the other two has and the players dig it. Fans love Purdy. He is has that magic Cinderella charisma about him. Most importantly, Kyle loves Purdy. Nope, not getting traded.

And what happens if purdy doesn't play like he did for a couple games this yr? That "swag" disappears. Cinderella turns into a pumpkin. The team then wraps their arms around the next QB that helps them win, and most importantly kyle will move on to the next QB.

I'm not saying any of that can or will happen. Im saying we've turned Brock into some all-pro QB who's untradeable after a couple games. That can all change pretty damn quickly in the NFL.

BP gonna turn to a pumpkin, voice of doom has spoken

we just need to manage our way to some Ws, all BP needs to do is put it on ppl, avoid mistakes / negative plays, that's all TL needs to do as well
per coach, this is simple stuff, can you do it?

What's with the Cam Newton comparisons?

Newton was a better runner.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What's with the Cam Newton comparisons?

Newton was a better runner.

there is also this, courtesy Wikipedia:

"Some sportswriters have argued that Newton's 2010 season is the best single season by a player in NCAA history due to his dominance with relatively little talent around him"

if you watched, you know

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
BP gonna turn to a pumpkin, voice of doom has spoken

we just need to manage our way to some Ws, all BP needs to do is put it on ppl, avoid mistakes / negative plays, that's all TL needs to do as well
per coach, this is simple stuff, can you do it?

The voice that's saying everything is and should on the table. You're the one that was screaming lance MVP s**t this time last yr, not me.

cool you want another Jimmy G QB to just manage some stuff…some fans want a QB who can put a team on his back an get the job done. Someone that's not gonna require all-stars all over the place.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What's with the Cam Newton comparisons?

Newton was a better runner.

Jesus. No one is comparing him to Cam. Someone said no QB had as little snaps as Lance coming into the league. Which ultimately is true…however Cam had less than 300 passing attempts at the DI level and one yr starting before going #1 overall. Some brought up JUCO play like that was some life altering thing for Cam football wise.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Wait you think Division I FCS is the same as the JUCO league? HAHAHAHA

He's not making that comparison. The leap here is you drawing a comparison between a player a year removed from dominating at the FCS level for a team that dominates their league every year, to a player who came into the league off of a dominant season in the SEC AND a year dominating junior colleges.

Further, in your response to me, you made sure to mention that Cam had what you presumably believe to be a limited amount of pass attempts (292) but don't mention or highlight the fact that Cam dominated the highest level of college football with his running ability in conjunction with those pass attempts. What was it that translated to Cam's immediate success in the NFL? It was his dominating athleticism.

There's no comparison between their experience levels coming into the NFL. Cam was easily superior in that department, both in terms of amount and the competition level he faced, and he was much more of a proven prospect than Lance in pretty much any facet of Quarterbacking.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Jesus. No one is comparing him to Cam. Someone said no QB had as little snaps as Lance coming into the league. Which ultimately is true…however Cam had less than 300 passing attempts at the DI level and one yr starting before going #1 overall. Some brought up JUCO play like that was some life altering thing for Cam football wise.

You compared their experience levels. That's the pushback you're getting.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What's with the Cam Newton comparisons?

Newton was a better runner.

Better runner, better arm talent, bigger, more experienced.

I'd give Trey the intelligence advantage, but that's based solely on reports and the ability to see Cam's development in hindsight.

It's already been well-established here that Trey is the least experienced, least talented QB to ever be drafted in any round in NFL history and that Kyle was held at gunpoint and forced into drafting him, so why do we need to rehash it every single day?