Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

anyone else hoping Brock gets healthy then it's an open QB comp for the ages with all three

He will be ready to go by tc

If Brock is back 100% there's no comp.

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's rare to find a guy that performs at a high level and even though Brock did it over a small stretch, it's all he's done. So that's really exciting to me and you stick with it until it proves you wrong. Instead of turning the job over to someone that you have no idea if he is capable of that or not. Which even kyles said that ones done it and one hasn't (2 if you count darnold).

That isn't a knock on lance though. It's a credit to Purdy and what he accomplished. I don't believe you throw that away, you see what it is. If we didn't have Brock, I'd 100% on board with Lance playing.

neither should comfortably have the job yet though. Brock has to go out there and own it, continue doing what he's done, and get it done at a high level. He can't rest on his past performances. Lance has to catch up to him and then try and surpass it. If Brock improves on last year, I think that's a wrap. Not that Lance will be bad but that he likely won't get a serious opportunity here.

brock has the big advantage of tons of experience leading programs and huddles a lot at all three levels. I think that's something Lance is still navigating because he's green at it. Not that he is some push over but not quite a leader of men, yet. I think he will but his youth coupled with his experience makes that difficult.

to put it simply, Lance has struggled and hasn't really put anything together yet (at least know he's been injured worse than we knew) - some are comparing him to Steve young and mahommes. Lol so imagine if his three games went as well as Purdy's did? Guys like NY would be saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. That's just the reality. Some folks prefer Lance to be a star over a guy like Purdy, that's all it really is. There isn't a rational explanation to believe Lance will be the next great thing and simultaneously think Purdy was a flash in the pan or will regress. All that says is which player they prefer to be the star - I prefer whoever can do it and so far we only know Brock can. If both can, wonderful, even better. Other than that, it's just pure optimism. Especially with how few games Lance has played in his entire life.

Brock can't play and that's the reality of the situation. When he can actually play football and be 100% is still a guess at this point. Saying anything else right now is pointless.

For all we know Brock looks like junk vs the 1st team all during training camp. What Brock has accomplished was great. Is it sustainable? I have my doubts, but would the happiest 49er fan if he makes it work. Not one person would be upset. You don't see any other media base, fan base or football film guru talk about Brock like our fan base does…why? Because there needs to be more film on him. Simple as that. You want to toss him into tier 1 talk go ahead. I'm not there yet, simple as that.

Lance hasn't had a real chance to "struggle" that's the truth of it. I most certainly would not being saying he's the greatest QB ever if he played like Brock his first 170 snaps. I would be saying it's a small sample size and would be going from there…Ive even posted that s**t before we even knew who we were drafting. I said I wasn't gonna jump the gun either way with how they play early on. I said I wasn't gonna have some massive criticism of him (like I did Jimmy) until whomever was the pick actually played meaningful snaps.

No one is comparing Lance to young and Mahomes…especially after they've played for years. Was young a stud from day 1 in the NFL? Nope. Did he have top tier talent? f**k yes. Mahomes was raw a sushi coming into the league. He had krusty the clown footwork. It was a mess. Go watch his college film…that s**t wasn't remotely close to NFL football. So many bad tendencies. His talent level at throwing a football and his intangibles is why he became so good. toss in being in a great situation. We've brought up Hurts, Allen and a bunch of other QBs all the same.

some people think Lance actually has the ability to become an elite level QB. While some think Brock might be lacking there…it's all speculation regardless of their first 100 & 170 passing attempts. I've given you a laundry list of players and their first 100 or so passing attempts. Pretending to put absolutes on either right now is dumb.

if Brock turns into Brees 2.0 awesome. Is that likely? Man I don't know. I not gonna pretend he will be, like you guys do. Does he become Jimmy 2.0? That could very well happen all the same…it's not like Jimmy was playing like s**t when CMC showed up and this offense actually had time to jell…I feel like Kyle's teams always start off slow every year.

you talk about optimism. Yet you act like Brock is some all-pro vet. It's 170 passes man. Not years of elite play. Now he's got the UCL. You're hoping just as much that he just starts off right where he left off (and that Dallas game wasn't really amazing) that's speculation all the same.

IMO the truth of it is if Brock was healthy, he's the leader in the clubhouse he earned that. I don't think he's the starter all season no matter what though. He hasn't earned that and he's not gonna have some long leash. Lance/Darnold will have an opportunity to prove they're the guy this TC and if they get playing time who knows.. Whomever has the hot hand will be the guy imo.

we don't have some proven all-pro vet QB making massive amount of cash. There is so much flexibility with our QBs and how they will stack up. Constantly talking about it and thinking you have the answer is fun, but pure speciation.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's rare to find a guy that performs at a high level and even though Brock did it over a small stretch, it's all he's done. So that's really exciting to me and you stick with it until it proves you wrong. Instead of turning the job over to someone that you have no idea if he is capable of that or not. Which even kyles said that ones done it and one hasn't (2 if you count darnold).

That isn't a knock on lance though. It's a credit to Purdy and what he accomplished. I don't believe you throw that away, you see what it is. If we didn't have Brock, I'd 100% on board with Lance playing.

neither should comfortably have the job yet though. Brock has to go out there and own it, continue doing what he's done, and get it done at a high level. He can't rest on his past performances. Lance has to catch up to him and then try and surpass it. If Brock improves on last year, I think that's a wrap. Not that Lance will be bad but that he likely won't get a serious opportunity here.

brock has the big advantage of tons of experience leading programs and huddles a lot at all three levels. I think that's something Lance is still navigating because he's green at it. Not that he is some push over but not quite a leader of men, yet. I think he will but his youth coupled with his experience makes that difficult.

to put it simply, Lance has struggled and hasn't really put anything together yet (at least know he's been injured worse than we knew) - some are comparing him to Steve young and mahommes. Lol so imagine if his three games went as well as Purdy's did? Guys like NY would be saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. That's just the reality. Some folks prefer Lance to be a star over a guy like Purdy, that's all it really is. There isn't a rational explanation to believe Lance will be the next great thing and simultaneously think Purdy was a flash in the pan or will regress. All that says is which player they prefer to be the star - I prefer whoever can do it and so far we only know Brock can. If both can, wonderful, even better. Other than that, it's just pure optimism. Especially with how few games Lance has played in his entire life.

Brock can't play and that's the reality of the situation. When he can actually play football and be 100% is still a guess at this point. Saying anything else right now is pointless.

For all we know Brock looks like junk vs the 1st team all during training camp. What Brock has accomplished was great. Is it sustainable? I have my doubts, but would the happiest 49er fan if he makes it work. Not one person would be upset. You don't see any other media base, fan base or football film guru talk about Brock like our fan base does…why? Because there needs to be more film on him. Simple as that. You want to toss him into tier 1 talk go ahead. I'm not there yet, simple as that.

Lance hasn't had a real chance to "struggle" that's the truth of it. I most certainly would not being saying he's the greatest QB ever if he played like Brock his first 170 snaps. I would be saying it's a small sample size and would be going from there…Ive even posted that s**t before we even knew who we were drafting. I said I wasn't gonna jump the gun either way with how they play early on. I said I wasn't gonna have some massive criticism of him (like I did Jimmy) until whomever was the pick actually played meaningful snaps.

No one is comparing Lance to young and Mahomes…especially after they've played for years. Was young a stud from day 1 in the NFL? Nope. Did he have top tier talent? f**k yes. Mahomes was raw a sushi coming into the league. He had krusty the clown footwork. It was a mess. Go watch his college film…that s**t wasn't remotely close to NFL football. So many bad tendencies. His talent level at throwing a football and his intangibles is why he became so good. toss in being in a great situation. We've brought up Hurts, Allen and a bunch of other QBs all the same.

some people think Lance actually has the ability to become an elite level QB. While some think Brock might be lacking there…it's all speculation regardless of their first 100 & 170 passing attempts. I've given you a laundry list of players and their first 100 or so passing attempts. Pretending to put absolutes on either right now is dumb.

if Brock turns into Brees 2.0 awesome. Is that likely? Man I don't know. I not gonna pretend he will be, like you guys do. Does he become Jimmy 2.0? That could very well happen all the same…it's not like Jimmy was playing like s**t when CMC showed up and this offense actually had time to jell…I feel like Kyle's teams always start off slow every year.

you talk about optimism. Yet you act like Brock is some all-pro vet. It's 170 passes man. Not years of elite play. Now he's got the UCL. You're hoping just as much that he just starts off right where he left off (and that Dallas game wasn't really amazing) that's speculation all the same.

IMO the truth of it is if Brock was healthy, he's the leader in the clubhouse he earned that. I don't think he's the starter all season no matter what though. He hasn't earned that and he's not gonna have some long leash. Lance/Darnold will have an opportunity to prove they're the guy this TC and if they get playing time who knows.. Whomever has the hot hand will be the guy imo.

we don't have some proven all-pro vet QB making massive amount of cash. There is so much flexibility with our QBs and how they will stack up. Constantly talking about it and thinking you have the answer is fun, but pure speciation.

NY… lol come on bro. Hahaha you'd be going HAM on here if Lance balled like Purdy did. Hell I'd be singing his praises. All we can do as fans is discuss and project based off of what they've done and what they're doing - every which way you chop it, Lance had a rough time in his three games, but the good new is that it's a small sample size and now we know he was injured. He looks good now, per kyle and that's great news. I think you look at everything through a negative lens for Purdy because you have so much faith in Lance. I get supporting Lance but you downplay Purdy a lot. What he did was remarkable and amazing. It was special. Nothing short of any of it

Kyle thinks Brock will be ready for training camp, which means he will most likely be ready for the season. Sounds like at worst brock will miss a game or two. Just cause he can't play right now doesn't mean you completely disregard the fact that he should be fully recovered by week 1, per doctors expectations. Lol

What happens during the season is anyone guess because who knows how injuries will play out, but to say he def won't play all season is a stretch. Lol you're assuming he will play bad or that he will just be yanked to give someone else reps? Lmao that's makes no sense man. At all.

idk how you came to the conclusion that a guy who's never played worse than really good is going to just fall of a cliff? Especially after a season of studying and improving. Even Kyle said he will be "a hell of a lot better". Lol

if Purdy does fall off a cliff then yeah, make a change? But it isn't like one average game and he's out. I'd imagine he would have to suck it up for about 5 games for that change to be made. Brock has absolutely earned that. Went undefeated, set numerous records, lead us to the NFCC, highest scoring offense in the league while he started, etc etc. if that doesn't give him at least a 5 game leash - then idk what does. Lol cause if winning the Super Bowl is the criteria for that; which isn't really his fault cause a freak accident, but numerous QBs would be on a super short leash.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
anyone else hoping Brock gets healthy then it's an open QB comp for the ages with all three

Let's hope so. No reason not to make it a competition if all three are healthy enough to practice in TC.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's rare to find a guy that performs at a high level and even though Brock did it over a small stretch, it's all he's done. So that's really exciting to me and you stick with it until it proves you wrong. Instead of turning the job over to someone that you have no idea if he is capable of that or not. Which even kyles said that ones done it and one hasn't (2 if you count darnold).

That isn't a knock on lance though. It's a credit to Purdy and what he accomplished. I don't believe you throw that away, you see what it is. If we didn't have Brock, I'd 100% on board with Lance playing.

neither should comfortably have the job yet though. Brock has to go out there and own it, continue doing what he's done, and get it done at a high level. He can't rest on his past performances. Lance has to catch up to him and then try and surpass it. If Brock improves on last year, I think that's a wrap. Not that Lance will be bad but that he likely won't get a serious opportunity here.

brock has the big advantage of tons of experience leading programs and huddles a lot at all three levels. I think that's something Lance is still navigating because he's green at it. Not that he is some push over but not quite a leader of men, yet. I think he will but his youth coupled with his experience makes that difficult.

to put it simply, Lance has struggled and hasn't really put anything together yet (at least know he's been injured worse than we knew) - some are comparing him to Steve young and mahommes. Lol so imagine if his three games went as well as Purdy's did? Guys like NY would be saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. That's just the reality. Some folks prefer Lance to be a star over a guy like Purdy, that's all it really is. There isn't a rational explanation to believe Lance will be the next great thing and simultaneously think Purdy was a flash in the pan or will regress. All that says is which player they prefer to be the star - I prefer whoever can do it and so far we only know Brock can. If both can, wonderful, even better. Other than that, it's just pure optimism. Especially with how few games Lance has played in his entire life.

Brock can't play and that's the reality of the situation. When he can actually play football and be 100% is still a guess at this point. Saying anything else right now is pointless.

For all we know Brock looks like junk vs the 1st team all during training camp. What Brock has accomplished was great. Is it sustainable? I have my doubts, but would the happiest 49er fan if he makes it work. Not one person would be upset. You don't see any other media base, fan base or football film guru talk about Brock like our fan base does…why? Because there needs to be more film on him. Simple as that. You want to toss him into tier 1 talk go ahead. I'm not there yet, simple as that.

Lance hasn't had a real chance to "struggle" that's the truth of it. I most certainly would not being saying he's the greatest QB ever if he played like Brock his first 170 snaps. I would be saying it's a small sample size and would be going from there…Ive even posted that s**t before we even knew who we were drafting. I said I wasn't gonna jump the gun either way with how they play early on. I said I wasn't gonna have some massive criticism of him (like I did Jimmy) until whomever was the pick actually played meaningful snaps.

No one is comparing Lance to young and Mahomes…especially after they've played for years. Was young a stud from day 1 in the NFL? Nope. Did he have top tier talent? f**k yes. Mahomes was raw a sushi coming into the league. He had krusty the clown footwork. It was a mess. Go watch his college film…that s**t wasn't remotely close to NFL football. So many bad tendencies. His talent level at throwing a football and his intangibles is why he became so good. toss in being in a great situation. We've brought up Hurts, Allen and a bunch of other QBs all the same.

some people think Lance actually has the ability to become an elite level QB. While some think Brock might be lacking there…it's all speculation regardless of their first 100 & 170 passing attempts. I've given you a laundry list of players and their first 100 or so passing attempts. Pretending to put absolutes on either right now is dumb.

if Brock turns into Brees 2.0 awesome. Is that likely? Man I don't know. I not gonna pretend he will be, like you guys do. Does he become Jimmy 2.0? That could very well happen all the same…it's not like Jimmy was playing like s**t when CMC showed up and this offense actually had time to jell…I feel like Kyle's teams always start off slow every year.

you talk about optimism. Yet you act like Brock is some all-pro vet. It's 170 passes man. Not years of elite play. Now he's got the UCL. You're hoping just as much that he just starts off right where he left off (and that Dallas game wasn't really amazing) that's speculation all the same.

IMO the truth of it is if Brock was healthy, he's the leader in the clubhouse he earned that. I don't think he's the starter all season no matter what though. He hasn't earned that and he's not gonna have some long leash. Lance/Darnold will have an opportunity to prove they're the guy this TC and if they get playing time who knows.. Whomever has the hot hand will be the guy imo.

we don't have some proven all-pro vet QB making massive amount of cash. There is so much flexibility with our QBs and how they will stack up. Constantly talking about it and thinking you have the answer is fun, but pure speciation.

NY… lol come on bro. Hahaha you'd be going HAM on here if Lance balled like Purdy did. Hell I'd be singing his praises. All we can do as fans is discuss and project based off of what they've done and what they're doing - every which way you chop it, Lance had a rough time in his three games, but the good new is that it's a small sample size and now we know he was injured. He looks good now, per kyle and that's great news. I think you look at everything through a negative lens for Purdy because you have so much faith in Lance. I get supporting Lance but you downplay Purdy a lot. What he did was remarkable and amazing. It was special. Nothing short of any of it

Kyle thinks Brock will be ready for training camp, which means he will most likely be ready for the season. Sounds like at worst brock will miss a game or two. Just cause he can't play right now doesn't mean you completely disregard the fact that he should be fully recovered by week 1, per doctors expectations. Lol

What happens during the season is anyone guess because who knows how injuries will play out, but to say he def won't play all season is a stretch. Lol you're assuming he will play bad or that he will just be yanked to give someone else reps? Lmao that's makes no sense man. At all.

idk how you came to the conclusion that a guy who's never played worse than really good is going to just fall of a cliff? Especially after a season of studying and improving. Even Kyle said he will be "a hell of a lot better". Lol

if Purdy does fall off a cliff then yeah, make a change? But it isn't like one average game and he's out. I'd imagine he would have to suck it up for about 5 games for that change to be made. Brock has absolutely earned that. Went undefeated, set numerous records, lead us to the NFCC, highest scoring offense in the league while he started, etc etc. if that doesn't give him at least a 5 game leash - then idk what does. Lol cause if winning the Super Bowl is the criteria for that; which isn't really his fault cause a freak accident, but numerous QBs would be on a super short leash.

I've appreciated your takes, tankle, and am curious how old you are and specifically if you watched the Montana/Young saga play out real time or had to read about it later. Some have tried comparing Lance to Young, but also modern QBs like Allen. I really don't buy into any of that, feeling that each player has the right to write their own legacy, but one parallel that I don't feel is discussed enough is the road Steve Young had to take to finally wear the ring and the gold jacket.

He was drafted higher than many thought he should have been, and while BYU wasn't as small as NDSU, his level of competition was highly scrutinized. Had he not landed in the perfect situation, the only people who would remember his career would have been those of us from Utah who wished he would have wound up in a better spot.

There are so many variables into making a truly great QB that it can be a near impossibility to succeed in this league. Trey Lance is fortunate enough to have landed in one of those situations, and although luck hasn't been on his side yet, if he has what it takes to become great, he certainly will given the opportunity. If this forum existed in 1988, the dudes trashing Trey right now would have done the exact same to Steve.

Appreciate your takes, so please keep 'em coming!

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I'm not sure I've ever commented on his ceiling outside of saying he wasn't as talented physically as guys like Mahomes, Allen, or Herbert.

I don't subscribe to the ceiling argument when it comes to QBs, especially based on physical traits. That was the point of my very short post.

Nfl teams believe in ceilings for QBs with gifted physical traits

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I've appreciated your takes, tankle, and am curious how old you are and specifically if you watched the Montana/Young saga play out real time or had to read about it later. Some have tried comparing Lance to Young, but also modern QBs like Allen. I really don't buy into any of that, feeling that each player has the right to write their own legacy, but one parallel that I don't feel is discussed enough is the road Steve Young had to take to finally wear the ring and the gold jacket.

He was drafted higher than many thought he should have been, and while BYU wasn't as small as NDSU, his level of competition was highly scrutinized. Had he not landed in the perfect situation, the only people who would remember his career would have been those of us from Utah who wished he would have wound up in a better spot.

There are so many variables into making a truly great QB that it can be a near impossibility to succeed in this league. Trey Lance is fortunate enough to have landed in one of those situations, and although luck hasn't been on his side yet, if he has what it takes to become great, he certainly will given the opportunity. If this forum existed in 1988, the dudes trashing Trey right now would have done the exact same to Steve.

Appreciate your takes, so please keep 'em coming!

I never got to watch them live (Them = Young/Montana). Reading about them is what made me fall in love with the niners. Coupled with Ronnie Lott/Rice/Gore/Willis/Eddie D hahaha.

I try not to compare players overall, I mainly just will compare certain traits. When it comes to Young, he def had a rough road and it took him a lot of time to get where he eventually got. Even once he became the starter, he had some rough experiences to overcome. He became great though, no doubt about that, hes a great example of people being able to develop and improve once theyre in the right position. I wonder if his 40 year $40M contract is still paying him? I know it runs out soon. lol I believe Young played a few years of ball in the USFL, then two or so years with the Bucs, then sat here as a backup for what 3 years?

That ties into my comments earlier regarding "How much playing time does Lance need for him to get to the point of operating this offense at a high level/dependable/elevating the offense?" because we aren't talking regular inexperience - we are talking arguably the most inexperienced QB ever taken that high in the draft. I posted it earlier, he didn't even have 100 pass attempts in high school, 317 in college - then you have to factor in that those weren't against major competition and they weren't pass reliant teams. He's also always been a game manager at each program he was at (I don't mean that as a knock. I think its the reality of those situations), which is why the D most likely had to tell him to take more chances in practice. That's extremely raw. There is so much he has never experienced as a starting QB - the emotional highs/lows, running an offense, reading complex D, he has barely ever even had the chance to review his own film throughout his life because he has such limited attempts.

it isn't that i doubt he can become a really good QB in this league, its how long does he need to play before he can get there. I think that's a fair question - I personally believe that he needs a good two seasons - and he was supposed to have half that already if it wasn't for his unfortunate injury.

My main issue with starting/playing Lance right now is we have someone on the roster who can play, or at least has, at a very high level. It comes down to do you rock with Brock & this roster (most likely giving us the best chance at winning a superbowl soon & Salary cap situation) and develop him or do you take the chance that Lance will have an extremely quick learning curve, with very little experience for him to rely on, and hope the team can help carry the load and compete for a superbowl. Personally, I feel like we roll with the other young guy who has shown some special things from the get-go.

If we didn't have Brock - or if he didn't play as well as he did, I'd 100% behind developing lance. I'd still have the same concerns but I think it would be the right track. Even if Jimmy was still here, and I like Jimmy a lot, I'd say starting Lance over him would be the best thing to do for the team. It's the idea of trying to figure out how quickly Lance can develop/grow and make sure we capitalize on our SB window vs Expecting brock to make a large jump (which he should) ontop of his special performance with this superbowl window.

I respect that some believe Lance has special ability or that he is their preference. I just think Purdy has a very high "Ceiling" and special ability as well but is much more ready right now.

Brock Brees does have a ring to it. 🌟 Lance looks like he is throwing some sweet spirals, we shall see what happens!
Tankle, I love the idea of the topic, "What made you fall in love with the 9ers?" I am sure it's been done before but still. I love to hear stories! Lol

Originally posted by Montana:
Brock Brees does have a ring to it. 🌟 Lance looks like he is throwing some sweet spirals, we shall see what happens!
Tankle, I love the idea of the topic, "What made you fall in love with the 9ers?" I am sure it's been done before but still. I love to hear stories! Lol

yeah, it would be a fun topic on here.

Neither of my parents were into sports, but both are born & raised in The City. when I was maybe 9 - My mom had this really cool old school metal paper bin for an office. It had the old school 49ers Logo and Font on it, like the endzone during the playoffs. All red and then all the way around the bin it had all the super bowls we've won with that years superbowl logo/teams/scores. I just thought it was the coolest thing and from there I started looking into the team and reading all the history about them.

Then i became emotionally attached to them. hahahah I've always been someone who believes in studying history to understand the present, so I just did this super deep dive and read about all the coaches, players, seasons, ownership etc. Since the team has been bad a majority of my life, it was a great escape. hahaha

Originally posted by tankle104:
yeah, it would be a fun topic on here.

Neither of my parents were into sports, but both are born & raised in The City. when I was maybe 9 - My mom had this really cool old school metal paper bin for an office. It had the old school 49ers Logo and Font on it, like the endzone during the playoffs. All red and then all the way around the bin it had all the super bowls we've won with that years superbowl logo/teams/scores. I just thought it was the coolest thing and from there I started looking into the team and reading all the history about them.

Then i became emotionally attached to them. hahahah I've always been someone who believes in studying history to understand the present, so I just did this super deep dive and read about all the coaches, players, seasons, ownership etc. Since the team has been bad a majority of my life, it was a great escape. hahaha

Love this story! The metal paper bin, you still have it?

Pfff who still has this some where in the house?

Not my pics, but mines is some where at my pops house. Used to drink Coke and read the back all the time.

Originally posted by tommyncal:
Nfl teams believe in ceilings for QBs with gifted physical traits

They sure do, in conjunction with many other qualities.

Originally posted by tankle104:
NY… lol come on bro. Hahaha you'd be going HAM on here if Lance balled like Purdy did. Hell I'd be singing his praises. All we can do as fans is discuss and project based off of what they've done and what they're doing - every which way you chop it, Lance had a rough time in his three games, but the good new is that it's a small sample size and now we know he was injured. He looks good now, per kyle and that's great news. I think you look at everything through a negative lens for Purdy because you have so much faith in Lance. I get supporting Lance but you downplay Purdy a lot. What he did was remarkable and amazing. It was special. Nothing short of any of it

Kyle thinks Brock will be ready for training camp, which means he will most likely be ready for the season. Sounds like at worst brock will miss a game or two. Just cause he can't play right now doesn't mean you completely disregard the fact that he should be fully recovered by week 1, per doctors expectations. Lol

What happens during the season is anyone guess because who knows how injuries will play out, but to say he def won't play all season is a stretch. Lol you're assuming he will play bad or that he will just be yanked to give someone else reps? Lmao that's makes no sense man. At all.

idk how you came to the conclusion that a guy who's never played worse than really good is going to just fall of a cliff? Especially after a season of studying and improving. Even Kyle said he will be "a hell of a lot better". Lol

if Purdy does fall off a cliff then yeah, make a change? But it isn't like one average game and he's out. I'd imagine he would have to suck it up for about 5 games for that change to be made. Brock has absolutely earned that. Went undefeated, set numerous records, lead us to the NFCC, highest scoring offense in the league while he started, etc etc. if that doesn't give him at least a 5 game leash - then idk what does. Lol cause if winning the Super Bowl is the criteria for that; which isn't really his fault cause a freak accident, but numerous QBs would be on a super short leash.

Look man I'm not gonna go back and forth writing 15 paragraphs of the same stuff. You know how I stand. I've made it clear. I'm not running around in here pretending Brock is just gonna be who he was regardless of his injury and the small sample size. I need to see it over a full season before I act like you. Kyle can say whatever he wants, that doesn't make an injury recover any quicker.

I get it we're all begging for a great QB play. We're at a point where if we see anything positive we're gonna go all in. I don't think like that, I'm not gonna overreact one way or the other at this point. I've see too many QB go through stretches of good or bad play to assume anything (cough Kap). It's been like 20 yrs since we had a legit all-pro caliber QB. Fans are at the point where we're gonna settle. Did it with Jimmy, I don't want to go that route again. There are no conclusions on anyone. I have my opinions that can always change.

Lance for sure is a question mark. It's more the lack of playing because of injury than anything. He made rookie mistakes, but so have TONS of players and we've talking about that. Say what you will BUT I did say all that before we drafted a QB. I'm sticking by what I said all the same. I have no conclusion on Lance. How can you? I certainly don't have a conclusion on a 7th rd rookie QB either. He's got a long way to go before we crown him…the instant gratification stuff isn't for me. I've watched too much football to go that route.

none of these QBs have a long leash. None have earned the right to play through s**t play. We have no massive commitment to any of them (if anyone it's Lance). If Lance or Sam play well this off season, why would you just give it to Brock who hasn't participated at all? He's not Rogers or Mahomes. What happens if Brock doesn't look like QB1 in TC? You just give it to him even if the other two are playing better?

Wow Kyle seems to think Trey is in a better place this year as far as mechanics, delivery and overall throws all together. I wonder if he's going to let him get some reps in this year or rest him again lol. Trey needs all the reps he can get. Not mental reps but actually physically playing on the field.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Pfff who still has this some where in the house?

Not my pics, but mines is some where at my pops house. Used to drink Coke and read the back all the time.

Sick! I have a similar mug but it just has a 49er logo on it. An older lady who lives near my folks in LV has a ton of old SF paraphernalia, she's from the Bay Area. She knew I was a massive fan and gave me it lol. She also proceeded to tell me if there was raiders players drowning in our pool, she wouldn't help them haha. Hardcore!