Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Hahaha I literally just watched this in the last few minutes. It is a wild situation

Shanny throwing fuel on the fire. Love it.

It's the smart thing to do. I was shocked with the rhetoric before from him and Lynch, it created all this chaos and uncertainty - instead Of everyone being supported and talked highly of.

not saying they purposely did it or anything like that, but it just leaves the door open for all kinds of speculation. That's why I thought something was going on, I didn't understand why they didn't talk glowingly and confident from the get go.

Key takeaway is Lance being the best one they have. So we got Brock Purdy who is the leader in the clubhouse who's done it, Sam Darnold who is the best thrower of the football in franchise history and as good as there is, and Trey Lance who is the best of the bunch. Wild situation and fuel on the fire to say the least

He didnt say Lance is the best of the bunch, he said Lance looks the best he's ever looked. I may be mistaken but I believe some of the reports are reporting that incorrect - at least that's what I've seen in most article and when Kyle spoke about it.

:58 mark, Eisen says it and 1 minute mark Kyle literally says "I think he's the best one we have right now".

No worries tankle, it's not a knock on your boy Purdy. That "right now" part could be because Purdy isn't throwing and sorry but it isn't hard for me to believe that Trey looks better then Darnold

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I thought Purdy played so well that he deserved and should be QB1, he did what I was hoping Lance would. I wasn't aware of the finger injury though - I was also frustrated with his development but this sheds light on it, because I felt like from year 1-2 he didn't really show growth, now we know why. It also helps explain why his accuracy was so off - so I'm much more optimistic that his accuracy will improve now.

that's good news that this is the best Lance had looked since being a 49er. I wonder who he would say has the best mechanics between Lance, darnold, and Purdy. Or if they all have good mechanics.

It's hard to show growth when you don't play. That's what we've been trying to say. I brought up the finger injury a couple times (and how he had to change how he held/threw the ball) and people just laughed at it.

there's no reason to move him. We will see how the season goes. A lot can happen between now and a year from now. We all know that

Talk of trading him is ridiculous flat out. There is absolutely no reason to move on from him yet. I don't think they would without some ridiculous offer that he is not worth at this point in his career. Even if he isn't the better qb, I still think he will be a better option than Darnold, who I have never been a huge fan of, even before the Jets ruined him.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I thought Purdy played so well that he deserved and should be QB1, he did what I was hoping Lance would. I wasn't aware of the finger injury though - I was also frustrated with his development but this sheds light on it, because I felt like from year 1-2 he didn't really show growth, now we know why. It also helps explain why his accuracy was so off - so I'm much more optimistic that his accuracy will improve now.

that's good news that this is the best Lance had looked since being a 49er. I wonder who he would say has the best mechanics between Lance, darnold, and Purdy. Or if they all have good mechanics.

It's hard to show growth when you don't play. That's what we've been trying to say. I brought up the finger injury a couple times (and how he had to change how he held/threw the ball) and people just laughed at it.

there's no reason to move him. We will see how the season goes. A lot can happen between now and a year from now. We all know that

Well I was under the impression the finger was healed, which it was, but apparently healed wrong. That makes me feel different about his accuracy issues - makes me much more optimistic

its just hard to put him on the field when he hasn't been the best option. It's sort of the whole double edged sword of him being drafted to such a good team, it's been to his detriment because we've wanted to compete for a super bowl.

I'm not treys biggest fan - I have my concerns, you know that, but he has had some rough luck. Being drafted by a Super Bowl ready team with a vet qb, the multiple injuries, and then the exceptional play by Purdy. He was so green and injured that he wasn't even in position to try and lead the team. It would of been much better for him to go to a worse off team, which is what usually happens at #3.

to me, I hope we stick with Purdy until he proves us wrong, because he's performing at a high level and doing the things we want in a FQB. No point in dropping that in hopes someone else eventually does that, wouldn't make sense. I think the argument regarding we should cause of the resources we used - that's bad business. Those picks are over and the trade was years ago. That would be just an ego move and bad business

i still think there is a chance he gets traded because if all the reports coming out of here are really good, someone might make a good enough offer.

but you're right we have no idea how the season will play out. Allen could end up the starter based off of history. Hahah

im just happy to hear he looks way better. Just makes the team that much better.

Rich Isen was in awe of Kyle in that piece. Imagine having a rookie 7th rounder take your team to the *NFC Championship* game and then you have a super talented guy in Trey who's (from just a physical standpoint) looking like Steve Young 2.0. waiting in the wings. He basically said what some folks here do know, is that Kyle does know what he's doing with regards to development of QB's. I still remember Steve Young's 51+ yard touchdown run against the Vikings and their number 1 defense and his great passing to Tyerell Owens. Give Steve Young a Bosa or an Aldon (before the DUI's) for Steve's entire career, and he'd easily have another two+ championships.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Rich Isen was in awe of Kyle in that piece. Imagine having a rookie 7th rounder take your team to the *NFC Championship* game and then you have a super talented guy in Trey who's (from just a physical standpoint) looking like Steve Young 2.0. waiting in the wings. He basically said what some folks here do know, is that Kyle does know what he's doing with regards to development of QB's. I still remember Steve Young's 51+ yard touchdown run against the Vikings and their number 1 defense and his great passing to Tyerell Owens. Give Steve Young a Bosa or an Aldon (before the DUI's) for Steve's entire career, and he'd easily have another two+ championships.

Kyle wants his own Steve Young and maybe he's seeing him in Trey. It's up to Trey now to make those strides and be the second coming of him.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

No worries tankle, it's not a knock on your boy Purdy. That "right now" part could be because Purdy isn't throwing and sorry but it isn't hard for me to believe that Trey looks better then Darnold

Eisen heard it wrong. He says "Treys the best we've had him right now", meaning this is the best version of Trey we've had

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Trey Lance making strides and is currently 'the best' #49ers have seen, coach Kyle Shanahan says. https://t.co/b3NbEp51ZM

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) May 11, 2023

I'm excited for the kid, personally. I feel terrible for him but he's no different than any QB that constantly gets hurt here. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Brock makes it back and then gets hurt again. So Trey better be ready. You never know when your time will come. Just keep grinding and preparing.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
No worries tankle, it's not a knock on your boy Purdy. That "right now" part could be because Purdy isn't throwing and sorry but it isn't hard for me to believe that Trey looks better then Darnold

Eisen heard it wrong. He says "Treys the best we've had him right now", meaning this is the best version of Trey we've had

#49ers Kyle Shanahan provides update on how Trey Lance has recovered from multiple injuries:

"I think Trey (Lance) is the best we've had him right now" pic.twitter.com/6UyYGfs3VU

— 𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙎𝙁𝙉𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙧𝙨 (@TheSFNiners) May 11, 2023

Yeah, I can't find anything of Kyle saying that Lance is the best QB we have. I've only heard rich eisen say that. Either way, I'm not worried at all. Lmao

it would be great if we had more than one stud. Lol if someone is threatened by another player looking good, then they're not a competitor - that's called a whiny weak B. Lol it should just make everyone better. We need as strong of a QB situation as possible if we actually want to finally win a Super Bowl for the first time in nearly 30 years.

based on what kyles been saying about Brock, and I quote "It's about how you play the game, and Brock does that very naturally," Shanahan said. "But now he's actually looking at it, having experience, being able to learn everything and slow it down, and sit there and to me when you can't jump in there and go full speed.

"Because you had that experience, and now he can just sit back and watch it, I think he's going to be a hell of a lot better."

Nothing to worry about, my man. 😏.

Plus if Lance is playing better than Purdy, he should play then. This isn't the San Francisco Lance's or Purdy's - it's about the best guy for the job playing, can't wait to follow it.

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm excited for the kid, personally. I feel terrible for him but he's no different than any QB that constantly gets hurt here. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Brock makes it back and then gets hurt again. So Trey better be ready. You never know when your time will come. Just keep grinding and preparing.

Honestly the way Brock plays and his overall size…I don't see how he makes it a full season. No hate on the kid, he's got brass balls. He's got not problem holding onto the ball and scrambling to make a play happen…the lack of true arm talent forces him to have to reestablish his base/feet and make a throw downfield most times. Doing that equals more unnecessary hits. We saw him get throttled a handful of times doing this.

I will say I think his best quality is how he plays in the RZ. IMO it felt like that was one area that Jimmy struggled at. Brock's got a good feel down there and can move to create plays, when the initial play breakdown.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm excited for the kid, personally. I feel terrible for him but he's no different than any QB that constantly gets hurt here. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Brock makes it back and then gets hurt again. So Trey better be ready. You never know when your time will come. Just keep grinding and preparing.

Honestly the way Brock plays and his overall size…I don't see how he makes it a full season. No hate on the kid, he's got brass balls. He's got not problem holding onto the ball and scrambling to make a play happen…the lack of true arm talent forces him to have to reestablish his base/feet and make a throw downfield most times. Doing that equals more unnecessary hits. We saw him get throttled a handful of times doing this.

I will say I think his best quality is how he plays in the RZ. IMO it felt like that was one area that Jimmy struggled at. Brock's got a good feel down there and can move to create plays, when the initial play breakdown.

Idk man, I think it's hard for any qb to survive taking hits in this league. Trey has had 3 rough injuries and he's only played 3 full games. He really shouldn't be running the ball, I don't think any qb should be for the most part outside of specific situations. Trey getting reinjured is a concern of mine based on his history but injuries are so unpredictable and can happen to anyone. I hope no one gets injured.

Brock does need to protect himself better but he's been durable for the most part in his life, taking hits in college is different though. I'm optimistic Brock won't get reinjured as long as it isn't a freak thing like the UCL. Hopefully he's been bulking up his body this off season to take hits better. Hopefully he's reviewed his film and the unnecessary hits he took to see if he could of done things differently. I get stressed Everytime any of our QBs get hit because our luck has been awful the last 6-7 years. lol

Brock played in the redzone extremely well, probably the biggest reason for our scoring production increase - outside of CMC. Like you said, it was the big difference between the scores between jimmy and Brock. If Lance is more accurate now that his finger is healed up, hopefully he can improve there too. He struggled in the redzone quite a bit from what I remember but I haven't looked up the stats.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm excited for the kid, personally. I feel terrible for him but he's no different than any QB that constantly gets hurt here. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Brock makes it back and then gets hurt again. So Trey better be ready. You never know when your time will come. Just keep grinding and preparing.

Honestly the way Brock plays and his overall size…I don't see how he makes it a full season. No hate on the kid, he's got brass balls. He's got not problem holding onto the ball and scrambling to make a play happen…the lack of true arm talent forces him to have to reestablish his base/feet and make a throw downfield most times. Doing that equals more unnecessary hits. We saw him get throttled a handful of times doing this.

I will say I think his best quality is how he plays in the RZ. IMO it felt like that was one area that Jimmy struggled at. Brock's got a good feel down there and can move to create plays, when the initial play breakdown.

Another factor is that with his skill set, Kyle will continue to take calculated deeper shots and those take quite a bit of time to develop; as does PA. We don't exactly have Hill where you can just loft it up within his area code and eventually he'll come wide open and make the catch. We don't have consistent deep threats. We have schemed-open threats. Couple that with unit pass protection issues, it's not a winning combination (from a health perspective). We're excited about his ability to move but we forgot WHY he has to do that. As JT O'PicksALot noted, schematically, the QB will be put at-risk. It is what it is.

That's a long-winded way of saying, if history here is any indication, don't get too attached to one QB; we're going to need most or all of them to make it through 17-20 games.

No doubt his processing speed and mobility can help him greatly in the RZ.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

No worries tankle, it's not a knock on your boy Purdy. That "right now" part could be because Purdy isn't throwing and sorry but it isn't hard for me to believe that Trey looks better then Darnold

Eisen heard it wrong. He says "Treys the best we've had him right now", meaning this is the best version of Trey we've had

#49ers Kyle Shanahan provides update on how Trey Lance has recovered from multiple injuries:

"I think Trey (Lance) is the best we've had him right now" pic.twitter.com/6UyYGfs3VU

— 𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙎𝙁𝙉𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙧𝙨 (@TheSFNiners) May 11, 2023

Yeah, I can't find anything of Kyle saying that Lance is the best QB we have. I've only heard rich eisen say that. Either way, I'm not worried at all. Lmao

it would be great if we had more than one stud. Lol if someone is threatened by another player looking good, then they're not a competitor - that's called a whiny weak B. Lol it should just make everyone better. We need as strong of a QB situation as possible if we actually want to finally win a Super Bowl for the first time in nearly 30 years.

based on what kyles been saying about Brock, and I quote "It's about how you play the game, and Brock does that very naturally," Shanahan said. "But now he's actually looking at it, having experience, being able to learn everything and slow it down, and sit there and to me when you can't jump in there and go full speed.

"Because you had that experience, and now he can just sit back and watch it, I think he's going to be a hell of a lot better."

Nothing to worry about, my man. 😏.

Plus if Lance is playing better than Purdy, he should play then. This isn't the San Francisco Lance's or Purdy's - it's about the best guy for the job playing, can't wait to follow it.

Yea Brock is clearly his guy right now. Every time he talks about Trey there's "but Brock….."

When he talks about Brock he doesn't even mention Trey lol. Just pure praise

Originally posted by 49ers808:
:58 mark, Eisen says it and 1 minute mark Kyle literally says "I think he's the best one we have right now".

That's not what Kyle said. As noted above he says, I think he's the best we've had him right now. There is a big difference between those two statements.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Another factor is that with his skill set, Kyle will continue to take calculated deeper shots and those take quite a bit of time to develop; as does PA. We don't exactly have Hill where you can just loft it up within his area code and eventually he'll come wide open and make the catch. We don't have consistent deep threats. We have schemed-open threats. Couple that with unit pass protection issues, it's not a winning combination (from a health perspective). We're excited about his ability to move but we forgot WHY he has to do that. As JT O'PicksALot noted, schematically, the QB will be put at-risk. It is what it is.

That's a long-winded way of saying, if history here is any indication, don't get too attached to one QB; we're going to need most or all of them to make it through 17-20 games.

No doubt his processing speed and mobility can help him greatly in the RZ.

I mean I don't even think Brock is particularly great at throwing it deep. He just actually tried to do it every once in a while, where Jimmy never looked high to low. Those routes have always been there.

my point with Brock is in order for him to throw downfield or scramble (most of the time) he's gotta stop and reestablish his feet to generate enough power to get the ball where it's gotta go. You see guys like Allen/Mahomes/Rogers/Herbert (and yes lance) they can literally throw that s**t with a flick of a wrist. That's gonna lead to more hits for Brock. toss in his size and that could be a problem. Who knows how he is mentally after this injury too.

agreed our overall pass-pro isn't elite. It's not awful either imo. We will see what Colton has got, I would have preferred to have as many guys as possible competing for that spot. Most teams can't hold a pocket for more than 3 secs and having a guy that can move and evade pressure is a massive plus. We saw that and how this offense can go. We will see, I think all 3 guys play at some point for whatever reason.

he better be the best he has been, otherwise he would be regressing or stagnating