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Apr 28, 2023 at 3:28 PM
Originally posted by Polkadots:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
hard not to think of the million ways those picks could have been used to get this thing over the line to 1 or 2 SB wins these past 2 seasons, so I respectfully disagree

Hard not to think of the million ways those picks could have been used to not get this thing over the line to 1 or 2 SB wins these past 2 seasons, so I respectfully disagree.

You people can't claim the draft is a gamble, look at the 49ers' recent history of first round picks, and then cherry pick the capital given up for Trey, simultaneously ignore the context. and then claim, "but muh draft capital would have put us over the hump." GTFO.

If Trey fails to be a FQB, but Brock turns into, what many here imply he will be, that is a FQB, the 2021 draft was a shining success. Shining success. In fact, I imagine most teams would gladly give up multiple first round picks to get a FQB with their seventh round pick.

lol, giving up 3 ones had zero to do with landing BP, BP wasn't even a part of the 2021 draft, different draft classes

that bold is one logic pretzel after another
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Apr 28, 2023 at 4:53 PM
As long as when it comes time to pay our next QB and 9ers give them franchise money they play up to that level. The opportunity cost of losing Buckner because of money was bigger than the opportunity cost of missing out on lottery tickets.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Apr 28, 2023 at 4:53 PM ]
Apr 28, 2023 at 4:55 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
lol, giving up 3 ones had zero to do with landing BP, BP wasn't even a part of the 2021 draft, different draft classes

that bold is one logic pretzel after another

Doesn't matter, giving up all that was in hopes of landing a franchise QB. The fact that it's probably not trey doesn't bother me.
Apr 28, 2023 at 4:55 PM
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
As long as when it comes time to pay our next QB and 9ers give them franchise money they play up to that level. The opportunity cost of losing Buckner because of money was bigger than the opportunity cost of missing out on lottery tickets.

yeah pretty sure we could have gotten Buck back by flipping 3 ones to Indy if we wanted him that bad, you really think Buck's value in the NFL is > 3 ones
Apr 28, 2023 at 4:58 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
yeah pretty sure we could have gotten Buck back by flipping 3 ones to Indy if we wanted him that bad, you really think Buck's value in the NFL is > 3 ones

Not when you can't pay him when you are paying another guy franchise qb money and not getting the value.

My point is going forward when they make the decision to invest in a QB they have to get it right this time so they don't have to make moves to add another guy or lose important cogs that would've been difference makers the last few years.
Apr 28, 2023 at 4:59 PM
All this speculation of coulda, shoulda and woulda....ever heard of the butterfly effect?

We don't know how it would have turned out. You are basing on what players did with other teams did and not taking into account a lot of other things that could change. Things like we pick a player that we now know is good - might not be there because someone decides to leapfrog us to get him or he gets injury prone,

Like injuries that a player didn't suffer on one team, they suffer with us. Player support etc. Picking at different spots in the draft which could cause a ripple effect on what others would have picked before us and after us thus us not making and having the players we have now .

Example when people mention Patrick M. - not having the supporting cast that he has and even if he plays good- how good? Results, No Bosa, Fred Warner a host of other scenarios. Maybe the alternate picks we make turn out to be busts.
Apr 28, 2023 at 5:11 PM
Sometimes when drafting a QB in the first round- you get a Leaf, sometimes a Manning and other times a Plunkett. Three different scenarios.
Apr 28, 2023 at 6:03 PM
Originally posted by WildBill:
All this speculation of coulda, shoulda and woulda....ever heard of the butterfly effect?

We don't know how it would have turned out. You are basing on what players did with other teams did and not taking into account a lot of other things that could change. Things like we pick a player that we now know is good - might not be there because someone decides to leapfrog us to get him or he gets injury prone,

Like injuries that a player didn't suffer on one team, they suffer with us. Player support etc. Picking at different spots in the draft which could cause a ripple effect on what others would have picked before us and after us thus us not making and having the players we have now .

Example when people mention Patrick M. - not having the supporting cast that he has and even if he plays good- how good? Results, No Bosa, Fred Warner a host of other scenarios. Maybe the alternate picks we make turn out to be busts.

Minus the hardest position in sports to identify and fulfill, we have the best roster in the NFL. It really blows my mind how common criticism of our roster management is a topic on this forum.
Apr 28, 2023 at 7:56 PM
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by WildBill:
All this speculation of coulda, shoulda and woulda....ever heard of the butterfly effect?

We don't know how it would have turned out. You are basing on what players did with other teams did and not taking into account a lot of other things that could change. Things like we pick a player that we now know is good - might not be there because someone decides to leapfrog us to get him or he gets injury prone,

Like injuries that a player didn't suffer on one team, they suffer with us. Player support etc. Picking at different spots in the draft which could cause a ripple effect on what others would have picked before us and after us thus us not making and having the players we have now .

Example when people mention Patrick M. - not having the supporting cast that he has and even if he plays good- how good? Results, No Bosa, Fred Warner a host of other scenarios. Maybe the alternate picks we make turn out to be busts.

Minus the hardest position in sports to identify and fulfill, we have the best roster in the NFL. It really blows my mind how common criticism of our roster management is a topic on this forum.

What blows my mind is calling a player that started one game a bust. Jesus. Give the kid a chance to play.
Apr 29, 2023 at 8:04 AM
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Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by WildBill:
All this speculation of coulda, shoulda and woulda....ever heard of the butterfly effect?

We don't know how it would have turned out. You are basing on what players did with other teams did and not taking into account a lot of other things that could change. Things like we pick a player that we now know is good - might not be there because someone decides to leapfrog us to get him or he gets injury prone,

Like injuries that a player didn't suffer on one team, they suffer with us. Player support etc. Picking at different spots in the draft which could cause a ripple effect on what others would have picked before us and after us thus us not making and having the players we have now .

Example when people mention Patrick M. - not having the supporting cast that he has and even if he plays good- how good? Results, No Bosa, Fred Warner a host of other scenarios. Maybe the alternate picks we make turn out to be busts.

Minus the hardest position in sports to identify and fulfill, we have the best roster in the NFL. It really blows my mind how common criticism of our roster management is a topic on this forum.

What blows my mind is calling a player that started one game a bust. Jesus. Give the kid a chance to play.

One Game?

He's been pretty avg in the opportunities he's already been handed.
Apr 30, 2023 at 1:39 AM
Apr 30, 2023 at 2:00 AM
Originally posted by ImRicky:

This isn't ap report he's just guessing Darnold could beat him out, he knows less than the fans here on this matter. John & Kyle haven't leaked anything so he's going based off things he's heard them say publically and they've been deliberately vague.
[ Edited by 49erBigMac on Apr 30, 2023 at 2:01 AM ]
Apr 30, 2023 at 2:09 AM
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by ImRicky:

This isn't ap report he's just guessing Darnold could beat him out, he knows less than the fans here on this matter. John & Kyle haven't leaked anything so he's going based off things he's heard them say publically and they've been deliberately vague.

Ian Rapoport? He usually has some legit reports so not sure if he's that far off base with this one. Feels like Trey is in Lynch's dog house and Kittle put a double lock on the door lol
Apr 30, 2023 at 5:21 PM
lol raps**t. he still believes we wanted mccorkle. no idea why this NE b***h keeps making up lies.

darnold is QB3 and will likely be QB4 once we find any half decent undrafted FA QB. Darnold is a Josh Johnson replacement. We need min 4 QBs on this team.
Apr 30, 2023 at 5:32 PM
Originally posted by ImRicky:

that is not breaking news, anybody with any sense already knows this
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