Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49ers81:
The biggest issue with all of the Trey Lance chatter is one of perceived value. As of this moment he still remains a relatively unknown commodity so teams who liked him coming out of college could look at him and say, well, he's had some bad luck in San Francisco but we still think he has some nice upside that we could bring out in the right situation. Teams like that might be willing to make an offer if they didn't like whatever draft options might be available to them this year.

On the other hand, if Lance goes into camp in an open competition with Sam Darnold and loses out as the presumptive starter until Brock's return then even that perceived value, as modest as it might be, is going to take a hit. Darnold has only signed a one year "prove it" kind of deal so you're still going to need another QB on the roster regardless. If Darnold balls out it isn't likely he'll want to stick around and be a back-up if Brock continues to play as he has and the team remains committed to him as a starter. If he sucks what would be the incentive to resign him next year.

We still have Lance under contract for what, two more years? It's a pretty complicated situation but it seems to me that they might as well keep Lance and see how far they can develop him but even that will be difficult if he doesn't have the opportunity to really play. With Purdy out until at least training camp this is Lance's chance to shine. It will be up to him whether he is able to take advantage of it or not.

49ers are not trading Lance. I think Kyle is still confident he can develop Trey. As for us fans, we won't know the results of his coaching till - I would think - preseason. That's when we can see him play in a real football game. Odds are that Trey will be a good QB for us and hopefully - maybe - good enough to challenge for the QB1 position in a year or two so that ShanaLynch can showcase him for a possible trade. As for winning the QB1, Trey has to look good in preseason, but the records and the achievement that Brock did in 2022 is hard to overcome. Statistically, Brock looks like a generational talent. Gameplay-wise Brock is unbeaten, whereas Trey is .500.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
If they trade Lance it will be for pennies on the dollar, he has little or no value at this point. Speculation is all that he has plus an injury history. I see a second or third as max. It's clear Shanahan wants to move on from Lance. I think things are getting edgy in camp because the team has everything but a QB. Maybe the Coach and GM can pull a rabbit out of the hat come draft day.

I 100% understand what you're saying but I feel like we will be surprised by the compensation, if he's traded. There are some teams that feel how guys like NY do. Lol

I really think we will get a first round pick for him. I can see a team like Atlanta, Texans, Bucs or so making a big trade for him. We weren't the only team targeting him high.

also some teams may value the training and development he's been getting under kyle.

at least that's the optimistic way to look at it. I don't think he gets traded for just a second round pick or so. I don't think the team would do that. It would make more sense to just have him as a backup. If it is a second, I can see it being conditional and may turn into a first if he meets certain criteria

Reasonable assessments. However tell me the quarterback in this this draft you would take over Trey? The answer is none of them. If Trey came out this year he would be the first pick of the draft.

Yes, Trey needs reps , but his body of work in the NFL is ok. Anyway, The Niners can't trade him because of the CAP implications. Next year makes more sense i.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Or, if they think next year draft might have more talent. If they think it's comparable, they might not wait.

They ain't moving Lance until they actually see what Brock is post surgery. It would be horrible roster management. I wouldn't put it past Kyle though. He's pretty s**tty figuring at the QB position and living in the moment.

Yeah, agree, NY. Though, it would spice things up, if something happened on Thursday.

Originally posted by Mooseman:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
If they trade Lance it will be for pennies on the dollar, he has little or no value at this point. Speculation is all that he has plus an injury history. I see a second or third as max. It's clear Shanahan wants to move on from Lance. I think things are getting edgy in camp because the team has everything but a QB. Maybe the Coach and GM can pull a rabbit out of the hat come draft day.

I 100% understand what you're saying but I feel like we will be surprised by the compensation, if he's traded. There are some teams that feel how guys like NY do. Lol

I really think we will get a first round pick for him. I can see a team like Atlanta, Texans, Bucs or so making a big trade for him. We weren't the only team targeting him high.

also some teams may value the training and development he's been getting under kyle.

at least that's the optimistic way to look at it. I don't think he gets traded for just a second round pick or so. I don't think the team would do that. It would make more sense to just have him as a backup. If it is a second, I can see it being conditional and may turn into a first if he meets certain criteria

Reasonable assessments. However tell me the quarterback in this this draft you would take over Trey? The answer is none of them. If Trey came out this year he would be the first pick of the draft.

Yes, Trey needs reps , but his body of work in the NFL is ok. Anyway, The Niners can't trade him because of the CAP implications. Next year makes more sense i.

I would take Young or Stroud in a heartbeat over Trey. And I completely disagree that Trey would be the 1st pick of the draft. I wanted Justin Fields over him on draft day and stand by that. Having said that, I wouldnt move him for less than a mid 1st at this point given Brock's injury status.

Originally posted by Mooseman:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
If they trade Lance it will be for pennies on the dollar, he has little or no value at this point. Speculation is all that he has plus an injury history. I see a second or third as max. It's clear Shanahan wants to move on from Lance. I think things are getting edgy in camp because the team has everything but a QB. Maybe the Coach and GM can pull a rabbit out of the hat come draft day.

I 100% understand what you're saying but I feel like we will be surprised by the compensation, if he's traded. There are some teams that feel how guys like NY do. Lol

I really think we will get a first round pick for him. I can see a team like Atlanta, Texans, Bucs or so making a big trade for him. We weren't the only team targeting him high.

also some teams may value the training and development he's been getting under kyle.

at least that's the optimistic way to look at it. I don't think he gets traded for just a second round pick or so. I don't think the team would do that. It would make more sense to just have him as a backup. If it is a second, I can see it being conditional and may turn into a first if he meets certain criteria

Reasonable assessments. However tell me the quarterback in this this draft you would take over Trey? The answer is none of them. If Trey came out this year he would be the first pick of the draft.

Yes, Trey needs reps , but his body of work in the NFL is ok. Anyway, The Niners can't trade him because of the CAP implications. Next year makes more sense i.

What cap implications?

Originally posted by Mooseman:
Reasonable assessments. However tell me the quarterback in this this draft you would take over Trey? The answer is none of them. If Trey came out this year he would be the first pick of the draft.

Yes, Trey needs reps , but his body of work in the NFL is ok. Anyway, The Niners can't trade him because of the CAP implications. Next year makes more sense i.

Well I differ from you cause I'd of never taken Trey. I never liked him as a prospect. I wanted us to draft fields. I haven't done a ton of research on the QBs because it's irrelevant to the 49ers this year.

Hmm I would take both Young and Stroud over him. Definitely stroud, I like his accuracy. I like young's game the most, but his size is concerning. Outside of his size, young is a great prospect.

both are much better passers than Lance, in my opinion. Only thing Lance has over them is just physical size and arm strength, the least important factors when it comes to determining how good someone is unless you're undersized like Young is.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I would take Young or Stroud in a heartbeat over Trey. And I completely disagree that Trey would be the 1st pick of the draft. I wanted Justin Fields over him on draft day and stand by that. Having said that, I wouldnt move him for less than a mid 1st at this point given Brock's injury status.

Same. I didn't think Trey should of even been a first round prospect. Reminds me of Anthony Richardson, even though I like Trey more than Richardson but wouldn't take either in the first. Outside of physical size, there isn't anything that suggest they'll be good QBs.

none of their film in college suggest they could play at a high level in the nfl. At all. Both great athletes and nice arms, but that doesn't mean anything? When WR are on the roof and backflips matter - let me know. Even greeny (a host for the draft) recently said he's shocked that people think Richardson should be a first round pick.

Whoever drafts Richardson will have the same
peoblems we have with Lance right now. I hope seattle takes him. Lol

RE: Injuries

Lance and Purdy are not being used the same way.
Lance 4 games - 54 rushing attempts - 4.4 ypc
Purdy 6 games - 22 rushing attempts - 0.6 ypc.

Lance was used as a battering ram, Purdy was not.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Or, if they think next year draft might have more talent. If they think it's comparable, they might not wait.

They ain't moving Lance until they actually see what Brock is post surgery. It would be horrible roster management. I wouldn't put it past Kyle though. He's pretty s**tty figuring at the QB position and living in the moment.

Yeah, agree, NY. Though, it would spice things up, if something happened on Thursday.

Lol. Now NY is calling Kyle s**tty at figuring out the qb position. Boy that escalated quickly.

Originally posted by NDSU:
RE: Injuries

Lance and Purdy are not being used the same way.
Lance 4 games - 54 rushing attempts - 4.4 ypc
Purdy 6 games - 22 rushing attempts - 0.6 ypc.

Lance was used as a battering ram, Purdy was not.

Yeah, I hated watching all those runs that were majorly ineffective. I think it had a lot to do with lances ability to pass the balll and operate the offense though.

it's been widely reported that he struggled with it all during camp.

I think Minnesota played us. They mentioned Kirk Cousins and of course Shanny started throwing out scenarios were he could land him.

Originally posted by NDSU:
RE: Injuries

Lance and Purdy are not being used the same way.
Lance 4 games - 54 rushing attempts - 4.4 ypc
Purdy 6 games - 22 rushing attempts - 0.6 ypc.

Lance was used as a battering ram, Purdy was not.

Why do you think that is?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
From the first word to the last, this guy is spot on

I tried to watch this thinking it would be something other than assumptions and opinions. I turned it off after a few minutes.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
From the first word to the last, this guy is spot on

I tried to watch this thinking it would be something other than assumptions and opinions. I turned it off after a few minutes.

The thumbnail was enough for me

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NDSU:
RE: Injuries

Lance and Purdy are not being used the same way.
Lance 4 games - 54 rushing attempts - 4.4 ypc
Purdy 6 games - 22 rushing attempts - 0.6 ypc.

Lance was used as a battering ram, Purdy was not.

Yeah, I hated watching all those runs that were majorly ineffective. I think it had a lot to do with lances ability to pass the balll and operate the offense though.

it's been widely reported that he struggled with it all during camp.

I agree Kyle wasn't confident in Treys ability to run the offense so he simplified things and leaned on Treys running ability.