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From the first word to the last, this guy is spot on

[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Apr 23, 2023 at 10:45 AM ]
Originally posted by NDSU:
The reported asked him about getting traded and he replied "No comment". That's a pretty good indication he is getting traded.

Lol no it isn't
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
From the first word to the last, this guy is spot on


Yikes.
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NDSU:
The reported asked him about getting traded and he replied "No comment". That's a pretty good indication he is getting traded.

It's go to get spicy, come Thursday.

Well to be fair he said he has no information on it. I imagine the team would inform him that they're looking to move him, or at least tell him they're listening to offers.

my interpretation tells me that they've at least told him they're entertaining it but it isn't for certain. That or the team knows the interests parties, from when they met at the nfl meeting in Arizona, are close to meeting their asking price. So they've told him that he will most likely be traded.

obviously this is all speculation but it seems that the team has talked to him about it in some capacity.

Yeah, he knows he's eventually going to get traded, but, most likely not this year.

It really comes down to other teams at this point. They're fishing for the right offer and if they get it they will pull the trigger this year

Or, if they think next year draft might have more talent. If they think it's comparable, they might not wait.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Or, if they think next year draft might have more talent. If they think it's comparable, they might not wait.

They ain't moving Lance until they actually see what Brock is post surgery. It would be horrible roster management. I wouldn't put it past Kyle though. He's pretty s**tty figuring at the QB position and living in the moment.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 23, 2023 at 10:58 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Or, if they think next year draft might have more talent. If they think it's comparable, they might not wait.

They ain't moving Lance until they actually see what Brock is post surgery. It would be horrible roster management. I wouldn't put it past Kyle though. He's pretty s**tty figuring at the QB position and living in the moment.

Honest question, do you think that it would dry up his market/value if we wait until June to trade him? I was thinking about that this morning.

teams tend to get a little desperate around the draft and not be sure who they'll get, or if a player is selected before they can get them, they may be a little more desperate and offer more? I really don't know.

i agree that in an ideal situation, we would wait to find out where Brock is, if they don't - I think that says the team is confident that Darnold can give the same production of more than Lance in the short term, until Purdy is back.

darnold incentives always signaled to me that he was brought on to be QB2 because I can't imagine anyone would sign on as QB3 with those incentives because it would be so unlikely he would get the chance to earn them. So maybe they are planning on trading him around the draft, no idea.

this could go so many ways. Lol
[ Edited by tankle104 on Apr 23, 2023 at 11:13 AM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Or, if they think next year draft might have more talent. If they think it's comparable, they might not wait.

They ain't moving Lance until they actually see what Brock is post surgery. It would be horrible roster management. I wouldn't put it past Kyle though. He's pretty s**tty figuring at the QB position and living in the moment.

Honest question, do you think that it would dry up his market/value if we wait until June to trade him? I was thinking about that this morning.

teams tend to get a little desperate around the draft and not be sure who they'll get, or if a player is selected before they can get them, they may be a little more desperate and offer more? I really don't know.

i agree that in an ideal situation, we would wait to find out where Brock is, if they don't - I think that says the team is confident that Darnold can give the same production of more than Lance in the short term, until Purdy is back.

darnold incentives always signaled to me that he was brought on to be QB2 because I can't imagine anyone would sign on as QB3 with those incentives because it would be so unlikely he would get the chance to earn them. So maybe they are planning on trading him around the draft, no idea.

this could go so many ways. Lol

You don't see why someone would sign on here to be QB3 behind two guys that are as fragile as sugar glass? QB3 here is basically a starting job.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Or, if they think next year draft might have more talent. If they think it's comparable, they might not wait.

They ain't moving Lance until they actually see what Brock is post surgery. It would be horrible roster management. I wouldn't put it past Kyle though. He's pretty s**tty figuring at the QB position and living in the moment.

Honest question, do you think that it would dry up his market/value if we wait until June to trade him? I was thinking about that this morning.

teams tend to get a little desperate around the draft and not be sure who they'll get, or if a player is selected before they can get them, they may be a little more desperate and offer more? I really don't know.

i agree that in an ideal situation, we would wait to find out where Brock is, if they don't - I think that says the team is confident that Darnold can give the same production of more than Lance in the short term, until Purdy is back.

darnold incentives always signaled to me that he was brought on to be QB2 because I can't imagine anyone would sign on as QB3 with those incentives because it would be so unlikely he would get the chance to earn them. So maybe they are planning on trading him around the draft, no idea.

this could go so many ways. Lol

You don't see why someone would sign on here to be QB3 behind two guys that are as fragile as sugar glass? QB3 here is basically a starting job.

Purdy hasn't show he is glass, his injury is extremely rare and took a very unique situation for it to happen. Hence it's only happened one other time in nfl history.

lance, yeah - he's had three injuries and only three starts. (finger - which he probably could have played through, Knee, and ankle).

the odds of a third string qb playing is still rare. Just like the odds of us going through 4 QBs again is very unlikely. I can see QB2 getting playing time but qb3? Possible but not likely. He could of signed somewhere else as QB2. He didn't HAVE to come here as the third option, which I doubt he did.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
From the first word to the last, this guy is spot on


Yikes.

Told you he was bad in practice and the players weren't excited about him. What don't people understand that he CANNOT operate the offense efficiently right now. After two years of practicing it. It's a serious problem.

Hence, Kyle ran a ton with him for a reason. Told you he isn't super mobile either. He isn't anywhere near the level of Lamar, fields, murray etc. anywhere near.

this has come from MULTIPLE people AT PRACTICES. AT THE FACILITIES.

he needs A LOT of game experience to find out if he is even capable of being solid.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Or, if they think next year draft might have more talent. If they think it's comparable, they might not wait.

They ain't moving Lance until they actually see what Brock is post surgery. It would be horrible roster management. I wouldn't put it past Kyle though. He's pretty s**tty figuring at the QB position and living in the moment.

Honest question, do you think that it would dry up his market/value if we wait until June to trade him? I was thinking about that this morning.

teams tend to get a little desperate around the draft and not be sure who they'll get, or if a player is selected before they can get them, they may be a little more desperate and offer more? I really don't know.

i agree that in an ideal situation, we would wait to find out where Brock is, if they don't - I think that says the team is confident that Darnold can give the same production of more than Lance in the short term, until Purdy is back.

darnold incentives always signaled to me that he was brought on to be QB2 because I can't imagine anyone would sign on as QB3 with those incentives because it would be so unlikely he would get the chance to earn them. So maybe they are planning on trading him around the draft, no idea.

this could go so many ways. Lol

You don't see why someone would sign on here to be QB3 behind two guys that are as fragile as sugar glass? QB3 here is basically a starting job.

Purdy hasn't show he is glass, his injury is extremely rare and took a very unique situation for it to happen. Hence it's only happened one other time in nfl history.

lance, yeah - he's had three injuries and only three starts. (finger - which he probably could have played through, Knee, and ankle).

the odds of a third string qb playing is still rare. Just like the odds of us going through 4 QBs again is very unlikely. I can see QB2 getting playing time but qb3? Possible but not likely. He could of signed somewhere else as QB2. He didn't HAVE to come here as the third option, which I doubt he did.

It's so rare that it's happened 4 out of the 6 seasons Kyle has been here.

Purdy already has had two major injuries in just 8 games, which isn't a promising sign for his durability. All of Jimmy's injuries were pretty fluky too, but they still kept happening to him.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's so rare that it's happened 4 out of the 6 seasons Kyle has been here.

Purdy already has had two major injuries in just 8 games, which isn't a promising sign for his durability. All of Jimmy's injuries were pretty fluky too, but they still kept happening to him.

It's happened here a lot but it doesn't change the fact that it happening here 4/6 seasons was extremely unlikely when you look at all the data.

im saying if you have choices, and Your career is on the line, do you bank in something happening that's unlike for a fifth time in 7 seasons? Or do you go to a situation where you have a chance to start?

"im going to take this job cause I think all the guys infront of me are going to get injured". - why would you even think that way? Furthermore, wouldn't that mean it's likely he can get injured too? That would be a very weird way to choose a job and also make you a pretty s**tty human being. Lol "can't wait for my chance cause these guys are going to have career altering injuries 😈". So odd.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Apr 23, 2023 at 11:37 AM ]
The biggest issue with all of the Trey Lance chatter is one of perceived value. As of this moment he still remains a relatively unknown commodity so teams who liked him coming out of college could look at him and say, well, he's had some bad luck in San Francisco but we still think he has some nice upside that we could bring out in the right situation. Teams like that might be willing to make an offer if they didn't like whatever draft options might be available to them this year.

On the other hand, if Lance goes into camp in an open competition with Sam Darnold and loses out as the presumptive starter until Brock's return then even that perceived value, as modest as it might be, is going to take a hit. Darnold has only signed a one year "prove it" kind of deal so you're still going to need another QB on the roster regardless. If Darnold balls out it isn't likely he'll want to stick around and be a back-up if Brock continues to play as he has and the team remains committed to him as a starter. If he sucks what would be the incentive to resign him next year.

We still have Lance under contract for what, two more years? It's a pretty complicated situation but it seems to me that they might as well keep Lance and see how far they can develop him but even that will be difficult if he doesn't have the opportunity to really play. With Purdy out until at least training camp this is Lance's chance to shine. It will be up to him whether he is able to take advantage of it or not.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Or, if they think next year draft might have more talent. If they think it's comparable, they might not wait.

They ain't moving Lance until they actually see what Brock is post surgery. It would be horrible roster management. I wouldn't put it past Kyle though. He's pretty s**tty figuring at the QB position and living in the moment.

Lol. It isn't like Lance is winning them games. He is a project. It would actually be smart to move on and get what value they can. Darnold can do as good or better than Lance in this offense and the talent they have.
I don't think the coaches lost confidence in Trey. It's just that they were surprised by just how good Brock Purdy was.

Trey could be just as good or better when given the opportunity.
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
I don't think the coaches lost confidence in Trey. It's just that they were surprised by just how good Brock Purdy was.

Trey could be just as good or better when given the opportunity.

Seeing as how Brock played as a top 5 Qb and had the offense rolling, I don't agree.

if that was the case, you would try to get Trey on the field or want to keep him. You don't consider trading top 5 qb talent.

They may think he could turn into a good qb (Dak type) after a few years of playing, but I think they know he's so raw that'll it'll take a few seasons for him to get there and by then his contract will be up and want to be paid etc. i wouldn't want to dump a bunch in to a dak type player, might as well of kept jimmy then.

i think they thought his development would of went a quicker, his injuries also derailed some of that - which is no one's fault.

id like to see him traded to a team like the Texans to see if he can develop into a good qb. Familiar system and coaches, could mess up and it not be a big deal. He needs that experience. He never got it at any other level.
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