Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Imagine deciding to give on a guy you invested 3 1st RD picks to draft.......For Sam Darnold of all QB's. It's crazy just saying it out loud. Let me say it again, You are going to trade Trey Lance because Sam fricken Darnold needs a roster spot?? So if Trey balls out this year for another team you can say Sam Darnold was the reason he had to go. It gets crazier and crazier the more I say it.

And what has Trey Lance done, besides showing that he's injury prone too?? Lick your wounds and move on. Hanging onto hope is not gonna get your team back into the Super Bowl.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Its not as if Trey is the only option.

If Trey gets traded they really only have 1 QB. Sam Darnold. Purdy is going to miss all of OTA's and all of training camp. And probally even 3 or 4 games to start the season. They will draft a rookie QB but then that still only leaves two QB's. One being a guy who is just learning the offense and has been a turnover machine, and a rookie.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Imagine deciding to give on a guy you invested 3 1st RD picks to draft.......For Sam Darnold of all QB's. It's crazy just saying it out loud. Let me say it again, You are going to trade Trey Lance because Sam fricken Darnold needs a roster spot?? So if Trey balls out this year for another team you can say Sam Darnold was the reason he had to go. It gets crazier and crazier the more I say it.

If they move on from Trey at this juncture it's about Purdy and how the feel about where Trey is at in his development,Darnold is irrelevant to the situation.

Yeah, they arent getting rid of Trey for Darnold, if they get rid of Trey at all. It'll be more so because they see Purdy over the next few seasons as the starter, at min. Making it unnecessary to have Trey unless you have him for solely back up means - especially when you factor in his contract timing/fifth year option.

They could also believe that Darnold will do just as good of a job, possibly better, in the short term as a starter than Lance. That wouldn't be be because they think Darnold is some great qb - it would speak more to how they feel about Lance in the short term and Purdy in the long term.

if what I said is true, then trading Lance makes the most sense out of the three because of his trade value. Especially when you look at the time remaining on his contract, fifth year option, and relatively cheap cap hit for some team.

If you think it's solely to make room for Darnold, then you're looking at this very improperly.

Lance could be still on the team and not get traded. He could end up beating out Darnold. No one knows. It's all speculation based off of reports/interviews.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
How much value does Trey really hold as a backup? He needs game reps to develop that doesn't make for an ideal backup.

Well yeah it's probally best for Trey to go elsewhere if they won't give him an honest opportunity to win the starting job from Purdy but it's not best for the Niners unless they get a haul. Purdy is not even healthy currently and can't even begin throwing until the 2nd week of June. And with all the QB's Kyle goes through, He can't just dispose of any talented guy at that position. Especially when he doesn't have to.

But for argument say let's say they do trade him. I am wanting a mid 1st RD pick atleast and then I am trading back to get a 2nd RD pick to go with that 1st RD pick and then I taking BPA with both of those picks to make I can turn Trey into multiple superstars. So that when or if Trey becomes a top 5 QB they can say atleast they got two superstars as a result of the trade.

But knowing the Niners they will trade him for a mid to late 2nd and reach for a need like RT and take MG 2.0

shouldn't he have to earn that opportunity as opposed to have it given to him? The fact that they are even entertaining the idea of trading Lance with Purdys status says alot about how they view Lance in my opinion,a mid first is a pipe dream a late first would be best case scenario & MG would've been considered a steal if he were a 2nd rounder.

If they trade Lance it will be for pennies on the dollar, he has little or no value at this point. Speculation is all that he has plus an injury history. I see a second or third as max. It's clear Shanahan wants to move on from Lance. I think things are getting edgy in camp because the team has everything but a QB. Maybe the Coach and GM can pull a rabbit out of the hat come draft day.

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
If they trade Lance it will be for pennies on the dollar, he has little or no value at this point. Speculation is all that he has plus an injury history. I see a second or third as max. It's clear Shanahan wants to move on from Lance. I think things are getting edgy in camp because the team has everything but a QB. Maybe the Coach and GM can pull a rabbit out of the hat come draft day.

I 100% understand what you're saying but I feel like we will be surprised by the compensation, if he's traded. There are some teams that feel how guys like NY do. Lol

I really think we will get a first round pick for him. I can see a team like Atlanta, Texans, Bucs or so making a big trade for him. We weren't the only team targeting him high.

also some teams may value the training and development he's been getting under kyle.

at least that's the optimistic way to look at it. I don't think he gets traded for just a second round pick or so. I don't think the team would do that. It would make more sense to just have him as a backup. If it is a second, I can see it being conditional and may turn into a first if he meets certain criteria

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m+ for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet Darnolds the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

It tells me the team took a flyer on a low risk, high reward player at a position that we desperately needed to be deeper at last year. Seeing anything more is imaginative speculation.

Was I imagining it when Kyle said Trash Darnold would be competing with Lance?

Why would he say anything else? What else could he say?

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m+ for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet Darnolds the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

It tells me the team took a flyer on a low risk, high reward player at a position that we desperately needed to be deeper at last year. Seeing anything more is imaginative speculation.

Was I imagining it when Kyle said Trash Darnold would be competing with Lance?

Why would he say anything else? What else could he say?

Did you honestly expecting him to say Darnold would be competing with Lance? Because I seem to recall most around here considering that thought to be a joke.

Yes 100% that's what I expected because that's literally the foundation of what Kyle/Lynch have built this roster on.

Either compete or move on. There may be a pecking order but nobody is coming in with no chance to compete.

Trey isnt getting traded until next off season. Once he plays this year. He will increase trade value, and then we ship him off and have someone else pay him.

I need some goddamn Trey trade news.

Originally posted by mayo49:
I need some goddamn Trey trade news.

Call back Friday. We might have something for you.

Originally posted by mayo49:
I need some goddamn Trey trade news.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Its not as if Trey is the only option.

If Trey gets traded they really only have 1 QB. Sam Darnold. Purdy is going to miss all of OTA's and all of training camp. And probally even 3 or 4 games to start the season. They will draft a rookie QB but then that still only leaves two QB's. One being a guy who is just learning the offense and has been a turnover machine, and a rookie.

I expect them to draft a QB at some point aswell as bring in an udfa whether they trade Trey or not, I think it's pretty telling that they are atleast entertaining the idea of trading Trey and possibly starting the season with Darnold and a couple rookies.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I need some goddamn Trey trade news.

Call back Friday. We might have something for you.

I need something spicy to happen Thursday, f**k this bland s**t.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/23/chatter-wont-stop-of-aaron-rodgers-to-49ers/

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m+ for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet Darnolds the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

It tells me the team took a flyer on a low risk, high reward player at a position that we desperately needed to be deeper at last year. Seeing anything more is imaginative speculation.

Was I imagining it when Kyle said Trash Darnold would be competing with Lance?

Why would he say anything else? What else could he say?

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m+ for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet Darnolds the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

It tells me the team took a flyer on a low risk, high reward player at a position that we desperately needed to be deeper at last year. Seeing anything more is imaginative speculation.

Was I imagining it when Kyle said Trash Darnold would be competing with Lance?

Why would he say anything else? What else could he say?

Did you honestly expecting him to say Darnold would be competing with Lance? Because I seem to recall most around here considering that thought to be a joke.

Yes 100% that's what I expected because that's literally the foundation of what Kyle/Lynch have built this roster on.

Either compete or move on. There may be a pecking order but nobody is coming in with no chance to compete.

That's not how i remember last year playing out they handed Trey the job they avoided any type of competition.