Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by random49er:
yea not even multiple games, but multiple seasons. He's had plenty of film from last year to spend the offseason getting better. He'll get that one more time too.

His career's not over but in hindsight, I'm glad they didn't take Lance.

In a hypothetical re-draft, do you think they'd draft Lance?

They won't trade up for any QB in that draft class.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
They won't trade up for any QB in that draft class.

Was asking about the Jets, but I'd agree in the case of the Niners.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
They won't trade up for any QB in that draft class.

Was asking about the Jets, but I'd agree in the case of the Niners.

I could see the Jets going for Lance, but the obvious answer is Fields, IMO.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, my question was never a shot at Lance. It was honestly a genuine question that I was curious others opinions. Lances qb class actually had a lot of very intelligent QBs - Lawrence, Max, Fields (scored very very high on processing ability), Lance, Purdy. I may be missing some but I haven't really looked much into the other guys. Zach Wilson is a complete dip$#%t.

i don't think lance has played bad. I just don't think he's done much either. He's been okay and done some good things but definitely has a lot to improve on and will improve on. Kid has a great work ethic. Even if he doesn't end up staying here - he will go somewhere and get a chance.

Purdy wasn't in that draft class.

All I'm saying is lance hasn't played as horrible as some want to proclaim. He hasn't been Mahomes out the gate, that s**t isn't the norm. We've seen a lot of good QBs actually take some time to become who they are now. I don't understand why that's such a controversial thing or isn't allowed to be a possibility (not saying that directly to you).

People who have played sports in their life understand you don't wake up good. Takes blood sweat and tears. Like you said the work ethic is there…maybe we can have some sort of patience to let that s**t develop? I mean more than 4QRs of starting football at the very least? I feel like most people get that, except the people who were against the pick…now it's about being right vs being logical.

Lances played more than 4 qtrs of professional football.

If In three of the games Lance has played the way Purdy has played his three games, I'm wondering who would be the first to proclaim that Lance is going to be the next Mahomes or Allen…
Purdy balls out, & he is the next Keenum.

We don't know how either of the quarterbacks will turn out, but thank God Purdy is balling out the way he is.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Lances played more than 4 qtrs of professional football.

If In three of the games Lance has played the way Purdy has played his three games, I'm wondering who would be the first to proclaim that Lance is going to be the next Mahomes or Allen…
Purdy balls out, & he is the next Keenum.

We don't know how either of the quarterbacks will turn out, but thank God Purdy is balling out the way he is.

Hell yeah, I feel so good about this team next year, not even worried. I can't wait to see what Purdy does this year, holy hell our coaching staff is good.

Lance has made some throws that Purdy just isn't going to hit, those 40 yard downfield in stride kind of throws that take elite arm talent. Purdy isn't hitting those, but by god he's hitting everything else! I love both these guys, and I've never been more hyped week 15.

Originally posted by AkNiners:
Hell yeah, I feel so good about this team next year, not even worried. I can't wait to see what Purdy does this year, holy hell our coaching staff is good.

Lance has made some throws that Purdy just isn't going to hit, those 40 yard downfield in stride kind of throws that take elite arm talent. Purdy isn't hitting those, but by god he's hitting everything else! I love both these guys, and I've never been more hyped week 15.

Purdy and Lance do look like an awesome combination for 2023.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I mean, odds are Purdy will get injured at some point in the next two years, which would give Lance a chance anyway. If/when he gets one, it will be up to him to prove he's worth a 5th year option. Otherwise he'll be a fine backup—assuming Purdy continues to show as he is doing and does not turn into a pumpkin—for two more years.

End of next season is when the team has to decide to exercise the 5th year option or not. Basically there's only one more year left for Trey to prove his value.

Even if they don't exercise it between year three and four they would still have two years, three and four.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
They won't trade up for any QB in that draft class.

Was asking about the Jets, but I'd agree in the case of the Niners.

If you're going to talk about "could have beens," Trey maybe could have not gotten injured and steadily improved and may be near maximizing his talent. It's a dumb game to play this early. Even Wilson may get a new attitude and change in the coming five years or so.

I have heard and seen only good things outta Trey. Yes he got injured but that was a freak accident. He has time and I am sure he can win with this team and this culture. For now we are behind Brock and trying to maximize what this talented team can accomplish

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I have no idea what you think Brock Purdy has to do with the teams decision to select Trey Lance and the strategy behind it.

I accept the fact that the team willingly decided to forego immediate improvement at the position on the belief that they could take on a multi year project that would pay off big down the road, and win at the same time. It didn't work last year. It hasn't worked this year. It's comically bad management.

Hopefully Brock Purdy continues to play this way and improve because beyond bringing in a veteran free agent for next season, we'll be on year three of this pie in the sky idea that comes at the expense of our Super Bowl quality roster.

It didn't work last yr playing the vet over the young QB either. Didn't win the SB last I checked.

If you can't accept that drafting a young QB requires playing time and development, that's a you problem.

I expect Brock to go through his own struggles because yes he's a rookie QB and overall that's what happens. IMO they have two young QBs that have the ability to help this team win and can improve as they play more…who can become the better QB and had the best chance to become a top end QB in the NFL over the next decade? That still a question mark and doesn't need to be discussed until next yr

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by krizay:
The webzone argument playing out right before our eyes. The Jets are fighting for a playoff spot and clearly are more concerned about winning then developing their young QB. Despite the draft position of the QBs involved.

Yeah but Zach is a non functional QB. Can't win with him. If Lance looked that bad playing over multiple games like Zach, he's done. But he has already looked better than Zach.

Right? Wilson has had about 2 seasons worth of proving it he can play in this league or not. Clearly at this point he can't. People in here gave Lance 4QRs and 2 drives to make their decision, which is about as dumb as it gets.

if lance gets 22+ starts like Wilson and looks exactly like him then I agree, he's done. Like you said Lance had already looked better than him in his small sample size.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Lances played more than 4 qtrs of professional football.

If In three of the games Lance has played the way Purdy has played his three games, I'm wondering who would be the first to proclaim that Lance is going to be the next Mahomes or Allen…
Purdy balls out, & he is the next Keenum.

We don't know how either of the quarterbacks will turn out, but thank God Purdy is balling out the way he is.

I wouldn't be proclaiming s**t about Lance after such a small sample size…I have stated that since the day he was drafted. So we can stop right there.

I also said maybe Brock can become the next Brady or whatever, there's also a good chance (and highly more likely) he's closer to a Keenum like NFL QB…which isn't a horrible thing for the 262 pick in the draft…go look at the QBs picked around where he went. 99% of them are out of the league in a yr or two selling insurance…he's already made an impression that he can play and will have a future being at the very least a quality backup. That's millions of dollars.

I've said over and over I'm gonna enjoy this season and see where it goes. I'm team Brock and think we have two good young QBs. I will worry about next yr, next yr.

Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:
I could see the Jets going for Lance, but the obvious answer is Fields, IMO.

I was a fields fan in the draft…I know how you feel about him. He finally has a HC that's using him properly…he's got to move around and extend plays at this stage in his career. He's not amazing in the pocket (that s**t takes time) and right now it's his legs more than anything…but he's developing, shocking how that happens when you let a guy play. Imo Lance needs that as well. He needs to play to improve, we've seen flashes and we've seen inconsistency. Fields and Lance both have the work ethic and football IQ to get there…guys like Zach Wilson not so much.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I got no problem with competition.

I also want the most talented players playing. I want the guys they invested/believed in playing and developing. Same thing with a guy like Drake Jackson. Get him out there more. He's clearly talented and needs to play to improve all the same.

see I think when you invest in a high end QB, there's a process. They went that route and understood that it's about developing the QB. The roster is real good and they don't need him to be Mahomes to win games right now. I don't see it as emotional at all…you went that route and understood that there's a process when choosing to move up for a QB that young and not having a ton of experience.

The difference is Brock had 1,500 passing attempts coming into the league. His baseline was he's seen a ton of football. That's great in the short-term. Now give Lance 1,500 passing attempts with Kyle and tell me if you think he will improve. IMO I think he will have. Do I think Brock will improve as much? I don't know. I like to go with the talent/skill set in that situation.

I know I'm in the minority, but I think it's okay to take one step back to take 10 steps ahead long-term. You gotta have faith in your team that they can keep replenishing the roster and coach as well as they have.

I think where we disagree is the taking a step back to take 10 steps forward. Building a roster like this is extremely difficult and doesn't come by too often. So I'm not comfortable with taking an unnecessary risk to jeopardize the teams aspirations.

if Trey was starting and healthy, maybe he's doing what Purdy is doing or better, but we will never know this season. All we know is we have a QB playing at a high level and the absolutely ONLY knocks against Purdy is either "he is a 7th round rookie" or "we spent a lot of picks on Trey, he should be starting".

i just wish Trey would of showed more promise in his few starts, but that's okay, doesn't mean he won't be a great QB.

I look at it this way...Zach Wilson is all but done in NY. Some people here, and given the day even I were hoping the Jets passed on Wilson. We could be in that situation. And I tried to think maybe Wilson is just in a bad situation and would thrive elsewhere (SF). But that's just wrong. He's a douche and sucks at playing QB at this level. Every time Mike White steps in or another QB for the Jets, their offense gets instantly better.

I'm glad we have Trey because in his limited sample size, he's shown more promise than Wilson. I'm glad we have him over Mac. T Lawrence is finally showing why he was #1 overall. It took him almost two seasons. Fields is showing great playmaking ability, but also great backbreaking play ability. Kind of reminds me of Jay Cutler. I'm still uncertain if he's going to be great long term because he turns the ball over so easy.

If that draft could be re-done it would go:
1. T Law
2. Fields (maybe)
3. Lance (still uncertain so he can move up)
4. Mac
5. Mills
6. Every other QB
7. Wilson

Originally posted by Silky:
I look at it this way...Zach Wilson is all but done in NY. Some people here, and given the day even I were hoping the Jets passed on Wilson. We could be in that situation. And I tried to think maybe Wilson is just in a bad situation and would thrive elsewhere (SF). But that's just wrong. He's a douche and sucks at playing QB at this level. Every time Mike White steps in or another QB for the Jets, their offense gets instantly better.

I'm glad we have Trey because in his limited sample size, he's shown more promise than Wilson. I'm glad we have him over Mac. T Lawrence is finally showing why he was #1 overall. It took him almost two seasons. Fields is showing great playmaking ability, but also great backbreaking play ability. Kind of reminds me of Jay Cutler. I'm still uncertain if he's going to be great long term because he turns the ball over so easy.

If that draft could be re-done it would go:
1. T Law
2. Fields (maybe)
3. Lance (still uncertain so he can move up)
4. Mac
5. Mills
6. Every other QB
7. Wilson

I think that's where we as fans don't have a clue when it comes to evaluating these guys…what makes them tick. Are they workers that wants to be great. Do they have the mental to handle being a NFL QB. You can say all the right things, but smart HC/GMs and scouts will figure you out.

For me with Wilson (and what I did like about him) was the play making ability, athletic ability and great mechanics. Like some others said (krizay comes to mind) Zach dealt with zero pressure at BYU (and probably life being a uber rich kid). Now sometimes that doesn't matter and they're just built for it regardless…Krizay was right with Wilson though.