Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Can this fanbase handle a Josh Allen trajectory for Trey Lance? Two underwhelming seasons and the press talking about the third season being a "prove-it" season?

I don't think so. This place would be unbearable. I guess that's the price we pay for having back-to-back HOF QBs.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by Ottawa49er:

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:

Originally posted by Ottawa49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
TECHNICALLY we did trade three for lance

We TRADED 12th pick in 2021
We TRADED 2022 first rounder
We TRADED 2023 first rounder

We got Lance.

think of it this way. If the Dolphins picked trey at #3 and THEN we traded the 2021, 2022 and 2023 picks for him we would end up with the same result.

We USED 3 1sts to acquire Lance we swapped 12 for 3, we traded two future 1sts.

You are correct NY. We traded 2022 1st and 2023 1st (plus a 3rd rounder) in order to move up from 12 to 3. i.e. the "cost" of moving from 12 to 3 was two firsts and a 3rd, not three first's. We definitely "used" 3 first's. No idea why so many people can't grasp that concept. Maybe it's just semantics?

https://www.nfl.com/news/kyle-shanahan-explains-49ers-decision-to-trade-up-to-no-3-to-take-trey-lance

Nope. Read second paragraph from NFL.com.

"The Niners essentially placed their future in Lance's hands, sending three first-round picks to Miami for the right to select the dynamic, dual-threat quarterback. San Francisco doesn't have a first-round pick until 2024 and is also out a third-rounder in 2022."

Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.

>>>>Sent, traded, swapped, used, whatever other adjective you want to toss out there, 3 of them were utilized.

Correct, but not relevant since no-one is debating that. Of course we used three first's. The cost of moving up nine spots in the draft ( increasing the value of our existing 1st for a better 1st ) was two additional first's and a 3rd. We used all of them for Lance. Or if you prefer the way it was written by NFL.com, we sent three firsts AND GOT A HIGHER FIRST RETURNED BACK, and all three firsts were used in the pick. Net cost to move up was 2 firsts and a 3rd.....total picks used was 3 first's and a 3rd. It's not rocket science.

True, instill think the Niners could have had him at their Original spot. Fields was going to Chicago no matta what, least I think so, and I don't think Belicheck would have drafted him.

Lawrence and Wilson were locks for 1&2. That's just spilled milk though, I guess. Long as he pans out. Fingers crossed.

Rumors posted here were saying Atl might consider taking Lance … which could have been true as they screwed up their QB situation by trying to get another QB

Maybe, that is an expensive Rumor and a helluva gamble. If he pans out it doesn't even matter anyway. I'm in the school of thought that he will. Can't wait to see him in action!

Not even just the falcons but you also had Rumours of Carolina and Denver being interested in him as well.

Ok, I just think they jumped the gun. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time! Excited to see him play tho!

You're wrong. It's ok to admit

Reports were out there even before the 49ers made their move up that if someone wanted Trey Lance they would need to get to 3. Don't recall which guy was really adamant about the Falcons being infatuated with him.

And the fact is considering we drafted him at 3 and there was no major shock means other teams were seeing the same things that Shanahan and our guys were seeing. I know as fans we have this thought that cuz some guys were projected around pick X in most mock drafts or they come from a school without a ton of publicity that they should go around pick X and anytime a team takes a player higher than pick X in the draft they reached and if they get the player after pick X they got a steal.

Fact is NFL teams know more than we do. Obviously they're not batting 1.000 either but they get a much better look at these kids than we do, that's why you get guys who fall and guys who make big jumps from their projections every draft.

In some cases the teams "reaching" get a stud player and the "steals" turn into nobodies. Here's hoping Trey Lance is a steal and a stud when his career is all said and done...and hopefully that career won't be said and done for a good 20+ years.

It was also "Reported" that Kyle had two 2nd rounders in hand to trade for Jimmy. Reports are smoke signals and false alarms most of the time and reporters with diahreah of the mouth.

Nothing legit to report, but gotta report something. Or teams putting false info out there to force their adversaries into a bad decision.

I also hope he pans out and plays well but I'm am also keeping an eye on Justin Fields. I wanted that guy so bad, I thought we messed up the pick. Time will tell! Cautiously optimistic!

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Can this fanbase handle a Josh Allen trajectory for Trey Lance? Two underwhelming seasons and the press talking about the third season being a "prove-it" season?

I don't think so. This place would be unbearable. I guess that's the price we pay for having back-to-back HOF QBs.

He already had 1 underwhelming season. He's on the clock now.

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Can this fanbase handle a Josh Allen trajectory for Trey Lance? Two underwhelming seasons and the press talking about the third season being a "prove-it" season?

I don't think so. This place would be unbearable. I guess that's the price we pay for having back-to-back HOF QBs.

Def some growing pains. It I think the niners have a much better team and coaching staff in place to maximize his abilities than Allen did when he came in. McDermott is a very good coach, I just think KS is a much better option for a young, dynamic QB

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
It was also "Reported" that Kyle had two 2nd rounders in hand to trade for Jimmy. Reports are smoke signals and false alarms most of the time and reporters with diahreah of the mouth.

Nothing legit to report, but gotta report something. Or teams putting false info out there to force their adversaries into a bad decision.

I also hope he pans out and plays well but I'm am also keeping an eye on Justin Fields. I wanted that guy so bad, I thought we messed up the pick. Time will tell! Cautiously optimistic!

Fields is talented but he's with a very bad organization. He doesn't have much talent around him and the stability is lacking. Trey has a better chance to succeed even if he isn't as talented as Fields.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
It was also "Reported" that Kyle had two 2nd rounders in hand to trade for Jimmy. Reports are smoke signals and false alarms most of the time and reporters with diahreah of the mouth.

Nothing legit to report, but gotta report something. Or teams putting false info out there to force their adversaries into a bad decision.

I also hope he pans out and plays well but I'm am also keeping an eye on Justin Fields. I wanted that guy so bad, I thought we messed up the pick. Time will tell! Cautiously optimistic!

Fields is talented but he's with a very bad organization. He doesn't have much talent around him and the stability is lacking. Trey has a better chance to succeed even if he isn't as talented as Fields.

Maybe, but Fields in SF would have rectified the talent around him situation, coupled with elite-ish game planning. I thought it was a better option given the variables in SF and Lances resume not being as strong.

I was sad we didn't draft him. Looking forward to game one to see him vs Lance. Game on!

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
It was also "Reported" that Kyle had two 2nd rounders in hand to trade for Jimmy. Reports are smoke signals and false alarms most of the time and reporters with diahreah of the mouth.

Nothing legit to report, but gotta report something. Or teams putting false info out there to force their adversaries into a bad decision.

I also hope he pans out and plays well but I'm am also keeping an eye on Justin Fields. I wanted that guy so bad, I thought we messed up the pick. Time will tell! Cautiously optimistic!

Fields is talented but he's with a very bad organization. He doesn't have much talent around him and the stability is lacking. Trey has a better chance to succeed even if he isn't as talented as Fields.

Maybe, but Fields in SF would have rectified the talent around him situation, coupled with elite-ish game planning. I thought it was a better option given the variables in SF and Lances resume not being as strong.

I was sad we didn't draft him. Looking forward to game one to see him vs Lance. Game on!

I was hoping for Fields as he was the more seasoned QB of what was left. but then i learned that Kyle worked and has seen more of Fields than Lance (not a whole lot) and he still opted to choose Lance.. So Lance offers more in Kyle's head..

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
It was also "Reported" that Kyle had two 2nd rounders in hand to trade for Jimmy. Reports are smoke signals and false alarms most of the time and reporters with diahreah of the mouth.

Nothing legit to report, but gotta report something. Or teams putting false info out there to force their adversaries into a bad decision.

I also hope he pans out and plays well but I'm am also keeping an eye on Justin Fields. I wanted that guy so bad, I thought we messed up the pick. Time will tell! Cautiously optimistic!

Fields is talented but he's with a very bad organization. He doesn't have much talent around him and the stability is lacking. Trey has a better chance to succeed even if he isn't as talented as Fields.

Maybe, but Fields in SF would have rectified the talent around him situation, coupled with elite-ish game planning. I thought it was a better option given the variables in SF and Lances resume not being as strong.

I was sad we didn't draft him. Looking forward to game one to see him vs Lance. Game on!

I was hoping for Fields as he was the more seasoned QB of what was left. but then i learned that Kyle worked and has seen more of Fields than Lance (not a whole lot) and he still opted to choose Lance.. So Lance offers more in Kyle's head..

I also preferred Fields pre-draft, but I trust Kyle more than I like Fields.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
It was also "Reported" that Kyle had two 2nd rounders in hand to trade for Jimmy. Reports are smoke signals and false alarms most of the time and reporters with diahreah of the mouth.

Nothing legit to report, but gotta report something. Or teams putting false info out there to force their adversaries into a bad decision.

I also hope he pans out and plays well but I'm am also keeping an eye on Justin Fields. I wanted that guy so bad, I thought we messed up the pick. Time will tell! Cautiously optimistic!

Fields is talented but he's with a very bad organization. He doesn't have much talent around him and the stability is lacking. Trey has a better chance to succeed even if he isn't as talented as Fields.

Maybe, but Fields in SF would have rectified the talent around him situation, coupled with elite-ish game planning. I thought it was a better option given the variables in SF and Lances resume not being as strong.

I was sad we didn't draft him. Looking forward to game one to see him vs Lance. Game on!

I was hoping for Fields as he was the more seasoned QB of what was left. but then i learned that Kyle worked and has seen more of Fields than Lance (not a whole lot) and he still opted to choose Lance.. So Lance offers more in Kyle's head..

I also preferred Fields pre-draft, but I trust Kyle more than I like Fields.

I agree. We all saw more of Fields in college so we know much less about Lance. One of the knocks on Lance was he played at a small college against inferior competition. That may be true but he also played WITH inferior competition. If he had played at Ohio State or another big time school with a great O line and great receivers, how good would he have been.

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Can this fanbase handle a Josh Allen trajectory for Trey Lance? Two underwhelming seasons and the press talking about the third season being a "prove-it" season?

I don't think so. This place would be unbearable. I guess that's the price we pay for having back-to-back HOF QBs.

Hopefully the fanbase is smart enough to understand that he is a first year starter and very young.

But lets be honest here. There is no way that Lance will have as s**tty a first year as Allen just based on circumstances alone:

Running game: Trey has a top tier running game and Allen had a shell of Lesean Mccoy. Huge Advantage: Lance

Receiving weapons: Trey has All Pro Deebo Samuel, breakout candidate Brandon Aiyuk and one of the best TE in football George Kittle. Allen had Zay Jones as his #1, Kelvin Benjamin as his #2 (LOL), and Charles Clay as his tight end (who was out of football a year later). Huge Advantage: Lance

Offensive Line: Trey will be standing behind an offensive line with some question marks, but with Trent Williams we should still be decent. Allen had the 26th rated offensive line according to PFF. Advantage: Lance

Playcalling: Trey has one of the best playcallers in the business, and Allen does not. Huge Advantage: Lance

Even if Lance struggles some, his situation alone will prevent him from having as poor an early showing as Josh Allen did. It doesnt make that much sense to me that people are making the comparison. Kyles scheme alone should make the learning curve a little less steep.

Also, I find it funny that you call Allen's second season "underwhelming" when it was fairly similar to Jimmy G's 2021 season.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
It was also "Reported" that Kyle had two 2nd rounders in hand to trade for Jimmy. Reports are smoke signals and false alarms most of the time and reporters with diahreah of the mouth.

Nothing legit to report, but gotta report something. Or teams putting false info out there to force their adversaries into a bad decision.

I also hope he pans out and plays well but I'm am also keeping an eye on Justin Fields. I wanted that guy so bad, I thought we messed up the pick. Time will tell! Cautiously optimistic!

Fields is talented but he's with a very bad organization. He doesn't have much talent around him and the stability is lacking. Trey has a better chance to succeed even if he isn't as talented as Fields.

Maybe, but Fields in SF would have rectified the talent around him situation, coupled with elite-ish game planning. I thought it was a better option given the variables in SF and Lances resume not being as strong.

I was sad we didn't draft him. Looking forward to game one to see him vs Lance. Game on!

I was hoping for Fields as he was the more seasoned QB of what was left. but then i learned that Kyle worked and has seen more of Fields than Lance (not a whole lot) and he still opted to choose Lance.. So Lance offers more in Kyle's head..

I have faith also, hope Kyle is right. Game 1 cannot get here soon enough. Again I am cautiously optimistic but Kyle is a smarter footballind than I. Time will tell

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Can this fanbase handle a Josh Allen trajectory for Trey Lance? Two underwhelming seasons and the press talking about the third season being a "prove-it" season?

I don't think so. This place would be unbearable. I guess that's the price we pay for having back-to-back HOF QBs.

Hopefully the fanbase is smart enough to understand that he is a first year starter and very young.

But lets be honest here. There is no way that Lance will have as s**tty a first year as Allen just based on circumstances alone:

Running game: Trey has a top tier running game and Allen had a shell of Lesean Mccoy. Huge Advantage: Lance

Receiving weapons: Trey has All Pro Deebo Samuel, breakout candidate Brandon Aiyuk and one of the best TE in football George Kittle. Allen had Zay Jones as his #1, Kelvin Benjamin as his #2 (LOL), and Charles Clay as his tight end (who was out of football a year later). Huge Advantage: Lance

Offensive Line: Trey will be standing behind an offensive line with some question marks, but with Trent Williams we should still be decent. Allen had the 26th rated offensive line according to PFF. Advantage: Lance

Playcalling: Trey has one of the best playcallers in the business, and Allen does not. Huge Advantage: Lance

Even if Lance struggles some, his situation alone will prevent him from having as poor an early showing as Josh Allen did. It doesnt make that much sense to me that people are making the comparison. Kyles scheme alone should make the learning curve a little less steep.

Also, I find it funny that you call Allen's second season "underwhelming" when it was fairly similar to Jimmy G's 2021 season.

Agreed. This team is SB ready now. Not a similar situation to Allen's first years starting. This team will be depending on Trey to be that missing piece that everyone has been talking about. If he can manage the game like a young Brady, Big Ben, and RW behind stacked teams, then I don't see why NFCC should be out of the question.

When you realize we're exactly 1 month away from seeing Trey Lance slinging the rock I wonder how many reps Trey will get in the preseason.

Originally posted by Heroism:
When you realize we're exactly 1 month away from seeing Trey Lance slinging the rock I wonder how many reps Trey will get in the preseason.

I might be wrong but I feel like the less we see of trey in the preseason it would actually be a good indicator of where's he's at. that would mean imo the coaching staff is very confident in where he is at and is only trying to minimize the injury risk

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Can this fanbase handle a Josh Allen trajectory for Trey Lance? Two underwhelming seasons and the press talking about the third season being a "prove-it" season?

I don't think so. This place would be unbearable. I guess that's the price we pay for having back-to-back HOF QBs.

This place will be unbearable no matter what lol. I don't think I've ever seen the webzone unanimously happy. Someone would find something to b***h about. We win the SB with Trey Lance throwing for 500 yards 5 TD and 0 INT but there is a pass that was dropped which could've been picked and someone will be complaining about it.

But while I get your question I'd be shocked if his career went that way. He's simply setup much better than Josh was early in his career. So I guess yes it would be disappointing to see a Josh Allen like trajectory because the team is so much better around him.