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Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Nice throw under pressure pic.twitter.com/baIajDJUPT
— Lalo (@__laxned) December 21, 2020
Trey Lance makes it look EASY with his second touchdown pass of the night 🔥@brgridiron
— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) August 23, 2021
(via @NFL)pic.twitter.com/WpTm5u8TzJ
Trey going through his progressions in college and preseason and making some nice throws.
Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Nice throw under pressure pic.twitter.com/baIajDJUPT
— Lalo (@__laxned) December 21, 2020
Trey Lance makes it look EASY with his second touchdown pass of the night 🔥@brgridiron
— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) August 23, 2021
(via @NFL)pic.twitter.com/WpTm5u8TzJ
Trey going through his progressions in college and preseason and making some nice throws.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Two years to sit isn't going to help him or the team long term. One year to sit and one year to cut his teeth (this year) is what needs to happen. 2022 is all about young guys contributing anyway. The window was last year. Now is the rebirth year. It will be a team building fail of epic proportions if any more of Lance's career is wasted on the bench, whether he's "ready" or not.
Originally posted by Chance:
Occam's Razor would suggest that Sims has dug himself a hole by ranking Lance much lower than Mac Jones during the draft process. Then he looked like a fool when Kyle, a good friend of his, took Lance. I think people would rather be right than watch a guy they ranked lower than 99% of people, succeed.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NDSU:
The only time Lance ran a lot at NDSU was against JMU in the Championship. JMU was not prepared for it and lost.
He ran for 1,100 yards in one season. For a QB thats pretty considerable yardage on the ground. Allen in college didn't go above 500 in any season. Mahomes had less. Even for NDSU that's a lot of yards on the ground. Wentz never had more than 600. At least in college, his use was closer to a Lamar Jackson.
From watching his college games, he definitely had a lot of designed runs, often right up the middle. I think Shanahan tried to give him a game plan he was familiar with against Arizona, but hopefully that won't be the case going forward now that he has fully mastered every intricacy of the offense.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by Chance:
Occam's Razor would suggest that Sims has dug himself a hole by ranking Lance much lower than Mac Jones during the draft process. Then he looked like a fool when Kyle, a good friend of his, took Lance. I think people would rather be right than watch a guy they ranked lower than 99% of people, succeed.
Simms benefits in no way if Lance is good and he doesn't really lose that much credibility if Lance ends up good thanks to modern media practices, but he gains a LOT if he's right about the 49ers making a mistake with Lance if Lance ends up failing, so he'll stick to that until he starts to look like a fool for continuing to do so. To me the dynamic that 2 close friends, both in the same industry with differing opinions of what one of those friends should have done in their professional life and where any "professional" opinion could have a negative impact on ones professional career, is an interesting one. Imo their friendship isn't as close as Simms has made it seem in the last, oooorrrrr they really are close friends and Simms is currently nuking that friendship with his constant criticism and negative things he says about Lance, essentially calling his friend out each and every time he does. Are they THAT professional? Im not sure I could be friends with a guy who constantly calls me out publicly for his own personal gain.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NDSU:
The only time Lance ran a lot at NDSU was against JMU in the Championship. JMU was not prepared for it and lost.
He ran for 1,100 yards in one season. For a QB thats pretty considerable yardage on the ground. Allen in college didn't go above 500 in any season. Mahomes had less. Even for NDSU that's a lot of yards on the ground. Wentz never had more than 600. At least in college, his use was closer to a Lamar Jackson.
Originally posted by NDSU:
On a lighter note:
TREY LANCE WAS 5 years old when Carlton and Angie Lance prepared for a big Saturday morning at the local park. Carlton, a former Canadian Football League defensive back who is a Hall of Famer at Southwest Minnesota State University in Marshall, plotted it out: He and Trey would head to the park with Trey's bike, whereupon Carlton would remove the training wheels and proceed to teach the older of his two sons how to ride on two wheels.
"Oh, it was a big deal," Angie says. "A really big deal."
They got to the park, shed the extra wheels and set about the task of some serious bonding. "OK, buddy," Carlton said. "You can do this." He walked next to his son and held his hand on the seat and did all the dad things you're supposed to do until he realized -- about five seconds into this big deal -- that he was even less essential than the training wheels. Trey sped out of his grasp and rode around the park like he was ready for a unicycle. They'd been gone about 10 minutes when Carlton and Trey returned to the house.
Angie met Carlton at the door. "What happened?" she whispered, just in case it had gone badly. Carlton shrugged. "Nothing -- Trey can ride a bike now."
Alex Smith was 'greatest thing' for Patrick Mahomes... "I told Alex, 'Man, go out and have the greatest year you've ever had, and you don't have to teach Pat,'" Reid told Fox Sports' Colin Cowherd last week. "'We're here to do that as coaches. You're out there to go produce and win games and do the best you possibly can for your team.' And so that's the way we approached it with him.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by Chance:
Occam's Razor would suggest that Sims has dug himself a hole by ranking Lance much lower than Mac Jones during the draft process. Then he looked like a fool when Kyle, a good friend of his, took Lance. I think people would rather be right than watch a guy they ranked lower than 99% of people, succeed.
Simms benefits in no way if Lance is good and he doesn't really lose that much credibility if Lance ends up good thanks to modern media practices, but he gains a LOT if he's right about the 49ers making a mistake with Lance if Lance ends up failing, so he'll stick to that until he starts to look like a fool for continuing to do so. To me the dynamic that 2 close friends, both in the same industry with differing opinions of what one of those friends should have done in their professional life and where any "professional" opinion could have a negative impact on ones professional career, is an interesting one. Imo their friendship isn't as close as Simms has made it seem in the last, oooorrrrr they really are close friends and Simms is currently nuking that friendship with his constant criticism and negative things he says about Lance, essentially calling his friend out each and every time he does. Are they THAT professional? Im not sure I could be friends with a guy who constantly calls me out publicly for his own personal gain.
Shanahan and Simms got matching heart tattoos that say "Chris & Kyle BFFs 4Ever", so I think they're still friends. I'm sure Kyle understands that what Chris says on air doesn't mean anything.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by Chance:
Occam's Razor would suggest that Sims has dug himself a hole by ranking Lance much lower than Mac Jones during the draft process. Then he looked like a fool when Kyle, a good friend of his, took Lance. I think people would rather be right than watch a guy they ranked lower than 99% of people, succeed.
Simms benefits in no way if Lance is good and he doesn't really lose that much credibility if Lance ends up good thanks to modern media practices, but he gains a LOT if he's right about the 49ers making a mistake with Lance if Lance ends up failing, so he'll stick to that until he starts to look like a fool for continuing to do so. To me the dynamic that 2 close friends, both in the same industry with differing opinions of what one of those friends should have done in their professional life and where any "professional" opinion could have a negative impact on ones professional career, is an interesting one. Imo their friendship isn't as close as Simms has made it seem in the last, oooorrrrr they really are close friends and Simms is currently nuking that friendship with his constant criticism and negative things he says about Lance, essentially calling his friend out each and every time he does. Are they THAT professional? Im not sure I could be friends with a guy who constantly calls me out publicly for his own personal gain.
Shanahan and Simms got matching heart tattoos that say "Chris & Kyle BFFs 4Ever", so I think they're still friends. I'm sure Kyle understands that what Chris says on air doesn't mean anything.
You don't think owners are swayed by fans and media? I couldn't disagree more. I see owners do things because of public pressure all the time.
I was specifically only talking about Chris Simms and Kyle's relationship. Some owners, players, coaches, etc. might be influenced by the media and fan reactions in some situations. I don't think the 49ers care that much about what people are saying about Lance when no one outside of the organization knows where he's at in his development.
Originally posted by thl408:
I like that rep of the college clip. Extra points for getting hit as he threw.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NDSU:
The only time Lance ran a lot at NDSU was against JMU in the Championship. JMU was not prepared for it and lost.
He ran for 1,100 yards in one season. For a QB thats pretty considerable yardage on the ground. Allen in college didn't go above 500 in any season. Mahomes had less. Even for NDSU that's a lot of yards on the ground. Wentz never had more than 600. At least in college, his use was closer to a Lamar Jackson.
From watching his college games, he definitely had a lot of designed runs, often right up the middle. I think Shanahan tried to give him a game plan he was familiar with against Arizona, but hopefully that won't be the case going forward now that he has fully mastered every intricacy of the offense.
I think that's exactly why there were so many designed runs vs ARI. It's what Lance was comfortable with at the time. Sure they say he knew the offense, but it takes more than 4 months to really know the offense and all its checks and adjustments. I doubt he has "fully mastered every intricacy of the offense". He has a total of two starts and they were disjointed in that they were 10 weeks between the two starts.
Originally posted by thl408:
I like that rep of the college clip. Extra points for getting hit as he threw.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NDSU:
The only time Lance ran a lot at NDSU was against JMU in the Championship. JMU was not prepared for it and lost.
He ran for 1,100 yards in one season. For a QB thats pretty considerable yardage on the ground. Allen in college didn't go above 500 in any season. Mahomes had less. Even for NDSU that's a lot of yards on the ground. Wentz never had more than 600. At least in college, his use was closer to a Lamar Jackson.
From watching his college games, he definitely had a lot of designed runs, often right up the middle. I think Shanahan tried to give him a game plan he was familiar with against Arizona, but hopefully that won't be the case going forward now that he has fully mastered every intricacy of the offense.
I think that's exactly why there were so many designed runs vs ARI. It's what Lance was comfortable with at the time. Sure they say he knew the offense, but it takes more than 4 months to really know the offense and all its checks and adjustments. I doubt he has "fully mastered every intricacy of the offense". He has a total of two starts and they were disjointed in that they were 10 weeks between the two starts.