Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Out of all the videos posted this one is the most unimpressive. Or is there something I'm missing?

He's deliberately turning the receiver away from contact, which is where the ball should go. But Givens would have sacked him in a normal game, so I agree it Carrie's the least weight.

Which means zero awareness. He only runs when Kyle calls it.

Are you really criticizing awareness for that play? For all you know they wanted him to finish the play even though it was blown up since it's you know practice.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 4ML:

pic.twitter.com/PtxJ8eQzpr

— Javier Vega (@JavierVeg_) February 19, 2022

Ukraine wishes they had this launcher

Out of all the videos posted this one is the most unimpressive. Or is there something I'm missing?

A lot of power behind that throw.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Joe Montana, "I don't think Trey's ready to play yet, after talking to some of the players."

Steve Young, "If Trey was ready, Trey would have played."

One was ripped, the other gets a shrug. Interesting.

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) February 18, 2022

It's official, cut Trey and extend Jimmy!

I guess Mahomes wasn't ready either, by Steve's logic. Then he somehow became ready that offseason and went for 5000 yd / 50 TDs.

Lance about to put up 6000 yd / 60 TDs ending with a Lombardi.

Unlikely with Kyle's run first philosophy, but I'll definitely take the Lombardi!

I think all the speculation about whether or not he's ready is the best thing that can happen. Gives Trey that much more motivation to work his ass off in the offseason. I'd much rather he have that mindset, rather than going into the offseason over confident and not working to perfect his craft.

Originally posted by shorepatrol:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
He's more talented than Mahomes with a better supporting cast.

You see something that hasn't been shown. That's called hope. I see a HUGE mistake giving up all the draft picks for this kid when they could've went to trading for Rodgers. See Rams and Bucs. Both had SB rosters without a QB. They added that QB and won SB's
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Because of getting to the NFCCG the trade up for Trey became CHEAP.

Make the divisional round next year and then even cheaper.

And by far well worth this risk to move up. Our 1st this year was actually worth a 2nd at the time of the trade due to the year delay, and our 1st next year worth essentially a 3rd at execution. And now when those 1sts come due they may both be picks in the high 20s which is nothing if have a chance to grab a FQB that would have gone #1 in the draft this year.

We called about Rodgers last year. He wasn't available. Rams gave up two 1sts for a 33 year old QB and were able to pull it off and win the SB because our starting QB was not good enough. I would have liked to see Lance have the chance to play Stafford in the NFCCG...think he could have put up 24+ points and won the game but we'll never know.

Those clips from Lance rolling left and releasing as he did were definitely Mahomes-like. Whether he has the talent of Mahomes remains to be seen and is unlikely as Mahomes is a superstar generational talent. But there are certainly good reasons for optimism and yes...rational hope.

Believing in Jimmy was pure hopium in the face of an accumulation of evidence that he simply had regressed and was not good enough to carry the team to a SB victory.

The mistake in hindsight was not drafting Trey - it was keeping Jimmy when Brady wanted to come here. With Brady we go nowhere last year due to the injuries but win the SB this year with Trey ready to come in once Brady retired.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

"Lance was in consideration, actually, to start going into the season until he got hurt in that preseason game where he injured the index finger on his throwing hand. And there was even a discussion about possibly starting him in that final regular-season game" @JimTrotter_NFL pic.twitter.com/6ZjTQzA5vF

— Javier Vega (@JavierVeg_) February 18, 2022

Does this mean that the notion that the 49ers never planned to start Trey and wanted him to sit and learn is false? Or maybe Trey impressed more than expected and opened the door to the possibility of starting.

No... If the plan was to start Trey he would've started. The plan all along was exactly what happened. Start Jimmy and stick with him until he failed or hit injured. It's been no secret.

The recent reports aren't saying that. They're saying Trey nearly made them change their plans. Two unfortunate injuries prevented that. Fortunate, if you're a Jimmy Cultist.

Lol how angry. You guys cant help but hate something, I guess it's other fans now that you can't with Jimmy. That's the divisive world we live in I guess. Always gotta hate.

It's not hate. It's repeating what the recent reports have said.

What recent reports?

Have you not been reading the thread?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/nfl-rumors-49ers-trey-lance-considered-start-qb-until-preseason-injury
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/156354-jay-glazer-49ers-enamored-trey-lances-development/

Mostly from Glazer.

Me... Show me the word "plan" please...or where they planned to start Trey.

Can you please read posts more carefully. I said he almost made them CHANGE their plan. And their plan was to start Jimmy and let Trey develop in practice. That is no secret. They didn't try to hide that.

I've considered a lot of things. I went to get my annual eye exam yesterday and I considered contacts instead of glasses. Was I serious about it? No but it was worth a consideration but the plan all along was glasses. A consideration is far from making a plan. They considered Trey, were they serious about it? If they were he'd start. There were plenty of chances but they didn't. They...stuck..to...the...plan... Which was the plan since day one.

That's not true. You seem to be conveniently forgetting the injuries that happened at the very moment it was most likely they would move on from Jimmy. And because of Trey's injury, Jimmy got another chance and did not squander it. That's what happened. Trey got hurt, giving Jimmy another chance, and Jimmy capitalized on it, playing outstanding against the Bears.

Injuries though. Jimmy played over Trey with multiple that clearly hampered him.

THIS is why people mock you guys so much. Are you kidding me? Trey had a KNEE injury. If you can't move you can't play — especially if your game is moving behind the line and scrambling. You can adjust your release to deal with a thumb or a light shoulder injury. But if you can't even back peddle, how are you supposed to play at all? ESPECIALLY if a big part of your game is your movement. And the entire point here is that a HEALTHY Trey could be better than Jimmy on a bad streak. But an injured Trey who can't run? No way he's better than Jimmy.

Seriously man. These takes are why these threads have thousands of responses.

That's not a dig on Trey but it's proof that they followed the plan.

It's proof that different injuries have different limitations.

If considering something was actually changing plans, we'd have Mac Jones right now, but... Stay with me... Trey was the plan. Mac was a consideration.

False equivalency. There were no extenuating circumstances forcing the team to make a particular choice. No injuries or unavailability. No four game losing streak.

And again, no one said they changed plans. Only that they thought about it, and likely would have had Trey not hurt his knee. And again, you can play with a thumb. You can't play with a knee.

Calling people cultist is hate and obvious animosity.

Here's the post I quoted to before you butted in.

"Does this mean that the notion that the 49ers never planned to start Trey"

No... Trey was never the plan. He was considered but the plan was Jimmy all along. Why that made you so aggressive is beyond me

Probably an entire year of "Jimmy is better than Stafford" or "Trey Lance is a bust."

Cool. Go ruin the Jimmy thread if you need to vent your frustrations. We're all behind Trey here. Can you not ruin this thread please?

Your name is literally mocking him. Don't pretend like you're on the Trey bandwagon now. You still want Jimmy here next year. Also, this thread has already been ruined by the absurd take that Trey needs two more years to develop.

I made this account knowing his day was coming in full support of him.

I'm skeptical but I'll take your word on it for now.

As far as Jimmy, Im completely ok to move on. It was the plan the entire season though you say otherwise. I will go to bat for Trey against those that will treat Trey like you treated Jimmy. I have no sides here. It's only a matter of time until you hate Trey.

Trey has already improved more in a span of 11 games than Jimmy did in five years, so I highly doubt I'll be "hating" Trey. I loved Jimmy in 2017, because I was expecting improvement. He showed no improvement of note, and his weaknesses began to be more obvious. Pointing them out, and that there are many better QBs, isn't hating him. I was really hoping he'd prove me wrong and improve in the right places necessary for us to win a ring. But, as predicted, he remained Jimmy.

I fully expect Trey to be serviceable at the very least if not better than Jimmy in some areas, worse in others.

Worst case scenario the total output from the QB position will be a wash next year. The problem is we had so many crucial breaks go our way in 2021, along with the fact we're going to lose a couple of good players. QB might remain constant but the team might get worse. And then the Jimmy Cult will blame Trey.

How's the team getting worse? We get all of our main pieces back with cap room.

You're already making excuses. Nothing more. Me I expect playoffs just as if expect a super bowl if Jimmy came back. You're the one already lowering expectations. Me I have full faith in Trey. Haters gonna hate

LOL exposed.

We have TWENTY ONE unrestricted free agents, and seven exclusive rights and restricted free agents. Here is a short list of some players that made key contributions that very well could be gone:

Tomlinson is probably good as gone. He'll probably cost 10 million to keep.
D.J. Jones is going to demand a pay raise.
Arden Key is probably gone.
K'Waun Williams is going to demand a pay raise.
Jaquiski Tartt is going to demand a pay raise.
Jordan Willis is going to demand a pay raise.
Azeez Al-Shaair is going to demand a pay raise.
Kentavious Street is probably going to look at free agency.
Kevin Givens is probably going to look at free agency.
Daniel Brunskill and his 17 starts is going to demand a pay raise.
Tom Compton and his 7 starts is going to demand a pay raise.

Deebo and Nick Bosa are going to collectively break the bank.

McGlinchey's salary is going to jump from 980k to 10 million because the 49ers already picked up his 5th year option.

Dee Ford is going to cost us several million in guaranteed money, cut or not.

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This team is probably not going to be as good next year. That's just how the contracts landed. And we're definitely not going to get a blocked field goal and a blocked punt for a touchdown in a close divisional playoff against a clearly superior team.

All those guys you mention are bit players. Yeah the roster changes each season there is FA, draft, etc. Players come, players go. The core, Deebo, BA, Kittle, Mitchell, Trent, McG, Mack, Bosa, Warner, Ward, Armstead all remains. Imagine that core with us having an MVP caliber season out of the QB position and an offense which is indefensible.

What got us the most in 2021 it took Ryans a half season to get up to speed. Remember early season we were giving up more Rodgers meaningful drives in 30 seconds than we did in 60 minutes come playoffs. We got shelled mid season by Colt McCoy and James Conner. Game by game Ryans started to figure it out by season's end we were a defensive force. Give that guy an offseason.

SB odds for next year already have us installed as one of the favorites for the SB.

Lol bit players? Six of them are starters, and a few others make meaningful contributions. You don't lose that many contributors and expect it not to matter.

And Trey isn't having an MVP caliber season next year. He'll show flashes next year, but my best guess is that, like Jimmy, he'll need to be carried by the defense and run game.

Pack it up guys. We aren't gonna be any good next year. We may lose Arden Key a guy who I didn't know existed a year ago.

How do we go from six starters to just Arden Key? This is why Jimmy's thread is over 6000 posts.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
This team is probably not going to be as good next year. That's just how the contracts landed. And we're definitely not going to get a blocked field goal and a blocked punt for a touchdown in a close divisional playoff against a clearly superior team.

So distracted by the we're gonna downgrade remark I forgot to comment on the GB is a "clearly superior team". Now let me prepare my comment on this topic...

Ahem...

We beat them because of a blocked field goal and a blocked punt. How many times in NFL history have those CHANCE related plays happened together in the same game? Dude, your head is buried in a butt.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

"Lance was in consideration, actually, to start going into the season until he got hurt in that preseason game where he injured the index finger on his throwing hand. And there was even a discussion about possibly starting him in that final regular-season game" @JimTrotter_NFL pic.twitter.com/6ZjTQzA5vF

— Javier Vega (@JavierVeg_) February 18, 2022

Does this mean that the notion that the 49ers never planned to start Trey and wanted him to sit and learn is false? Or maybe Trey impressed more than expected and opened the door to the possibility of starting.

No... If the plan was to start Trey he would've started. The plan all along was exactly what happened. Start Jimmy and stick with him until he failed or hit injured. It's been no secret.

The recent reports aren't saying that. They're saying Trey nearly made them change their plans. Two unfortunate injuries prevented that. Fortunate, if you're a Jimmy Cultist.

Lol how angry. You guys cant help but hate something, I guess it's other fans now that you can't with Jimmy. That's the divisive world we live in I guess. Always gotta hate.

It's not hate. It's repeating what the recent reports have said.

What recent reports?

Have you not been reading the thread?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/nfl-rumors-49ers-trey-lance-considered-start-qb-until-preseason-injury
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/156354-jay-glazer-49ers-enamored-trey-lances-development/

Mostly from Glazer.

Me... Show me the word "plan" please...or where they planned to start Trey.

Can you please read posts more carefully. I said he almost made them CHANGE their plan. And their plan was to start Jimmy and let Trey develop in practice. That is no secret. They didn't try to hide that.

I've considered a lot of things. I went to get my annual eye exam yesterday and I considered contacts instead of glasses. Was I serious about it? No but it was worth a consideration but the plan all along was glasses. A consideration is far from making a plan. They considered Trey, were they serious about it? If they were he'd start. There were plenty of chances but they didn't. They...stuck..to...the...plan... Which was the plan since day one.

That's not true. You seem to be conveniently forgetting the injuries that happened at the very moment it was most likely they would move on from Jimmy. And because of Trey's injury, Jimmy got another chance and did not squander it. That's what happened. Trey got hurt, giving Jimmy another chance, and Jimmy capitalized on it, playing outstanding against the Bears.

Injuries though. Jimmy played over Trey with multiple that clearly hampered him.

THIS is why people mock you guys so much. Are you kidding me? Trey had a KNEE injury. If you can't move you can't play — especially if your game is moving behind the line and scrambling. You can adjust your release to deal with a thumb or a light shoulder injury. But if you can't even back peddle, how are you supposed to play at all? ESPECIALLY if a big part of your game is your movement. And the entire point here is that a HEALTHY Trey could be better than Jimmy on a bad streak. But an injured Trey who can't run? No way he's better than Jimmy.

Seriously man. These takes are why these threads have thousands of responses.

That's not a dig on Trey but it's proof that they followed the plan.

It's proof that different injuries have different limitations.

If considering something was actually changing plans, we'd have Mac Jones right now, but... Stay with me... Trey was the plan. Mac was a consideration.

False equivalency. There were no extenuating circumstances forcing the team to make a particular choice. No injuries or unavailability. No four game losing streak.

And again, no one said they changed plans. Only that they thought about it, and likely would have had Trey not hurt his knee. And again, you can play with a thumb. You can't play with a knee.

Calling people cultist is hate and obvious animosity.

Here's the post I quoted to before you butted in.

"Does this mean that the notion that the 49ers never planned to start Trey"

No... Trey was never the plan. He was considered but the plan was Jimmy all along. Why that made you so aggressive is beyond me

Probably an entire year of "Jimmy is better than Stafford" or "Trey Lance is a bust."

Cool. Go ruin the Jimmy thread if you need to vent your frustrations. We're all behind Trey here. Can you not ruin this thread please?

Your name is literally mocking him. Don't pretend like you're on the Trey bandwagon now. You still want Jimmy here next year. Also, this thread has already been ruined by the absurd take that Trey needs two more years to develop.

I made this account knowing his day was coming in full support of him.

I'm skeptical but I'll take your word on it for now.

As far as Jimmy, Im completely ok to move on. It was the plan the entire season though you say otherwise. I will go to bat for Trey against those that will treat Trey like you treated Jimmy. I have no sides here. It's only a matter of time until you hate Trey.

Trey has already improved more in a span of 11 games than Jimmy did in five years, so I highly doubt I'll be "hating" Trey. I loved Jimmy in 2017, because I was expecting improvement. He showed no improvement of note, and his weaknesses began to be more obvious. Pointing them out, and that there are many better QBs, isn't hating him. I was really hoping he'd prove me wrong and improve in the right places necessary for us to win a ring. But, as predicted, he remained Jimmy.

I fully expect Trey to be serviceable at the very least if not better than Jimmy in some areas, worse in others.

Worst case scenario the total output from the QB position will be a wash next year. The problem is we had so many crucial breaks go our way in 2021, along with the fact we're going to lose a couple of good players. QB might remain constant but the team might get worse. And then the Jimmy Cult will blame Trey.

How's the team getting worse? We get all of our main pieces back with cap room.

You're already making excuses. Nothing more. Me I expect playoffs just as if expect a super bowl if Jimmy came back. You're the one already lowering expectations. Me I have full faith in Trey. Haters gonna hate

LOL exposed.

We have TWENTY ONE unrestricted free agents, and seven exclusive rights and restricted free agents. Here is a short list of some players that made key contributions that very well could be gone:

Tomlinson is probably good as gone. He'll probably cost 10 million to keep.
D.J. Jones is going to demand a pay raise.
Arden Key is probably gone.
K'Waun Williams is going to demand a pay raise.
Jaquiski Tartt is going to demand a pay raise.
Jordan Willis is going to demand a pay raise.
Azeez Al-Shaair is going to demand a pay raise.
Kentavious Street is probably going to look at free agency.
Kevin Givens is probably going to look at free agency.
Daniel Brunskill and his 17 starts is going to demand a pay raise.
Tom Compton and his 7 starts is going to demand a pay raise.

Deebo and Nick Bosa are going to collectively break the bank.

McGlinchey's salary is going to jump from 980k to 10 million because the 49ers already picked up his 5th year option.

Dee Ford is going to cost us several million in guaranteed money, cut or not.

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This team is probably not going to be as good next year. That's just how the contracts landed. And we're definitely not going to get a blocked field goal and a blocked punt for a touchdown in a close divisional playoff against a clearly superior team.

All those guys you mention are bit players. Yeah the roster changes each season there is FA, draft, etc. Players come, players go. The core, Deebo, BA, Kittle, Mitchell, Trent, McG, Mack, Bosa, Warner, Ward, Armstead all remains. Imagine that core with us having an MVP caliber season out of the QB position and an offense which is indefensible.

What got us the most in 2021 it took Ryans a half season to get up to speed. Remember early season we were giving up more Rodgers meaningful drives in 30 seconds than we did in 60 minutes come playoffs. We got shelled mid season by Colt McCoy and James Conner. Game by game Ryans started to figure it out by season's end we were a defensive force. Give that guy an offseason.

SB odds for next year already have us installed as one of the favorites for the SB.

Lol bit players? Six of them are starters, and a few others make meaningful contributions. You don't lose that many contributors and expect it not to matter.

And Trey isn't having an MVP caliber season next year. He'll show flashes next year, but my best guess is that, like Jimmy, he'll need to be carried by the defense and run game.

Pack it up guys. We aren't gonna be any good next year. We may lose Arden Key a guy who I didn't know existed a year ago.

Yeah, these excuses are garbage. He's got so little faith in Trey he's already making excuses for him to fail. Negative as always. Down on the QB as always. It's all he does.

We'll be equally good, if not better.

#EXPOSED

If we're equally good or better, it's because Trey plays better than Jimmy.

At first glance I'm shocked that you guys think losing key starters like Tomlinson won't matter. But then I remember you all think Garoppolo is better than Stafford, and some of you even think he's better than Rodgers, and realize why.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Yea please. Those clips just posted about his arm made me cringe. Sorry. Raw as sushi. Teach him how to set from a rollout. After a two-week crash course in foot first sliding

What are you talking about? There was nothing wrong with those throws.

this is an absolute dime, nothing wrong with that throwing motion nothing

Trey Lance is going to be Patrick Mahomes without a cringy brother.

pic.twitter.com/Jzolz3OKqr

— Maxx Smith (@MaxxSmithESM) February 17, 2022

Yeah he can set his feet just fine on a rollout

Still on that Hype from the Trey Lance to Deebo Samuel TD 🚀🚀🚀#49ers || #FTTB pic.twitter.com/BytP4yXeHf

— OurSF49ers (@OurSf49ers_) January 3, 2022

Umm the throws worked agreed... But the lower body mechanics just didnt mesh ... No control.... You didnt think so? The last clip was organized but the first two werent. Did the first two come after the houston game?

Thats what im talking about. Just very young. Hes a kid. 2023 is treys year.

Dude stop.

When you have elite talent, you have elite talent.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Dude stop.

When you have elite talent, you have elite talent.

No one tries to throw down field running cross legged sideways without setting. The tweets say early february but im assuming that's the tweet date. Probably the clips are from early fall. So i assume he wont be doing that so much now.

Any clips of him sliding?

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Umm the throws worked agreed... But the lower body mechanics just didnt mesh ... No control.... You didnt think so? The last clip was organized but the first two werent. Did the first two come after the houston game?

Thats what im talking about. Just very young. Hes a kid. 2023 is treys year.

Dude those throws are the definition of off platform throws…you can't always reestablish your base and step into your throws. Not all QBs can make those throws, that's god given arm talent. That is control in those situations. It's a positive that he can do that, not a negative. This is fake news.

where was the lower body mechanics stuff with Jimmy? His footwork is so inconsistent and has been since his NE days.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

No one tries to throw down field running cross legged sideways without setting. The tweets say early february but im assuming that's the tweet date. Probably the clips are from early fall. So i assume he wont be doing that so much now.

Any clips of him sliding?

Yeah no one ever makes off platform throws lol






How dare Montana not set his feet

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

"Lance was in consideration, actually, to start going into the season until he got hurt in that preseason game where he injured the index finger on his throwing hand. And there was even a discussion about possibly starting him in that final regular-season game" @JimTrotter_NFL pic.twitter.com/6ZjTQzA5vF

— Javier Vega (@JavierVeg_) February 18, 2022

Does this mean that the notion that the 49ers never planned to start Trey and wanted him to sit and learn is false? Or maybe Trey impressed more than expected and opened the door to the possibility of starting.

No... If the plan was to start Trey he would've started. The plan all along was exactly what happened. Start Jimmy and stick with him until he failed or hit injured. It's been no secret.

The recent reports aren't saying that. They're saying Trey nearly made them change their plans. Two unfortunate injuries prevented that. Fortunate, if you're a Jimmy Cultist.

Lol how angry. You guys cant help but hate something, I guess it's other fans now that you can't with Jimmy. That's the divisive world we live in I guess. Always gotta hate.

It's not hate. It's repeating what the recent reports have said.

What recent reports?

Have you not been reading the thread?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/nfl-rumors-49ers-trey-lance-considered-start-qb-until-preseason-injury
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/156354-jay-glazer-49ers-enamored-trey-lances-development/

Mostly from Glazer.

Me... Show me the word "plan" please...or where they planned to start Trey.

Can you please read posts more carefully. I said he almost made them CHANGE their plan. And their plan was to start Jimmy and let Trey develop in practice. That is no secret. They didn't try to hide that.

I've considered a lot of things. I went to get my annual eye exam yesterday and I considered contacts instead of glasses. Was I serious about it? No but it was worth a consideration but the plan all along was glasses. A consideration is far from making a plan. They considered Trey, were they serious about it? If they were he'd start. There were plenty of chances but they didn't. They...stuck..to...the...plan... Which was the plan since day one.

That's not true. You seem to be conveniently forgetting the injuries that happened at the very moment it was most likely they would move on from Jimmy. And because of Trey's injury, Jimmy got another chance and did not squander it. That's what happened. Trey got hurt, giving Jimmy another chance, and Jimmy capitalized on it, playing outstanding against the Bears.

Injuries though. Jimmy played over Trey with multiple that clearly hampered him.

THIS is why people mock you guys so much. Are you kidding me? Trey had a KNEE injury. If you can't move you can't play — especially if your game is moving behind the line and scrambling. You can adjust your release to deal with a thumb or a light shoulder injury. But if you can't even back peddle, how are you supposed to play at all? ESPECIALLY if a big part of your game is your movement. And the entire point here is that a HEALTHY Trey could be better than Jimmy on a bad streak. But an injured Trey who can't run? No way he's better than Jimmy.

Seriously man. These takes are why these threads have thousands of responses.

That's not a dig on Trey but it's proof that they followed the plan.

It's proof that different injuries have different limitations.

If considering something was actually changing plans, we'd have Mac Jones right now, but... Stay with me... Trey was the plan. Mac was a consideration.

False equivalency. There were no extenuating circumstances forcing the team to make a particular choice. No injuries or unavailability. No four game losing streak.

And again, no one said they changed plans. Only that they thought about it, and likely would have had Trey not hurt his knee. And again, you can play with a thumb. You can't play with a knee.

Calling people cultist is hate and obvious animosity.

Here's the post I quoted to before you butted in.

"Does this mean that the notion that the 49ers never planned to start Trey"

No... Trey was never the plan. He was considered but the plan was Jimmy all along. Why that made you so aggressive is beyond me

Probably an entire year of "Jimmy is better than Stafford" or "Trey Lance is a bust."

Cool. Go ruin the Jimmy thread if you need to vent your frustrations. We're all behind Trey here. Can you not ruin this thread please?

Your name is literally mocking him. Don't pretend like you're on the Trey bandwagon now. You still want Jimmy here next year. Also, this thread has already been ruined by the absurd take that Trey needs two more years to develop.

I made this account knowing his day was coming in full support of him.

I'm skeptical but I'll take your word on it for now.

As far as Jimmy, Im completely ok to move on. It was the plan the entire season though you say otherwise. I will go to bat for Trey against those that will treat Trey like you treated Jimmy. I have no sides here. It's only a matter of time until you hate Trey.

Trey has already improved more in a span of 11 games than Jimmy did in five years, so I highly doubt I'll be "hating" Trey. I loved Jimmy in 2017, because I was expecting improvement. He showed no improvement of note, and his weaknesses began to be more obvious. Pointing them out, and that there are many better QBs, isn't hating him. I was really hoping he'd prove me wrong and improve in the right places necessary for us to win a ring. But, as predicted, he remained Jimmy.

I fully expect Trey to be serviceable at the very least if not better than Jimmy in some areas, worse in others.

Worst case scenario the total output from the QB position will be a wash next year. The problem is we had so many crucial breaks go our way in 2021, along with the fact we're going to lose a couple of good players. QB might remain constant but the team might get worse. And then the Jimmy Cult will blame Trey.

How's the team getting worse? We get all of our main pieces back with cap room.

You're already making excuses. Nothing more. Me I expect playoffs just as if expect a super bowl if Jimmy came back. You're the one already lowering expectations. Me I have full faith in Trey. Haters gonna hate

LOL exposed.

We have TWENTY ONE unrestricted free agents, and seven exclusive rights and restricted free agents. Here is a short list of some players that made key contributions that very well could be gone:

Tomlinson is probably good as gone. He'll probably cost 10 million to keep.
D.J. Jones is going to demand a pay raise.
Arden Key is probably gone.
K'Waun Williams is going to demand a pay raise.
Jaquiski Tartt is going to demand a pay raise.
Jordan Willis is going to demand a pay raise.
Azeez Al-Shaair is going to demand a pay raise.
Kentavious Street is probably going to look at free agency.
Kevin Givens is probably going to look at free agency.
Daniel Brunskill and his 17 starts is going to demand a pay raise.
Tom Compton and his 7 starts is going to demand a pay raise.

Deebo and Nick Bosa are going to collectively break the bank.

McGlinchey's salary is going to jump from 980k to 10 million because the 49ers already picked up his 5th year option.

Dee Ford is going to cost us several million in guaranteed money, cut or not.

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This team is probably not going to be as good next year. That's just how the contracts landed. And we're definitely not going to get a blocked field goal and a blocked punt for a touchdown in a close divisional playoff against a clearly superior team.

All those guys you mention are bit players. Yeah the roster changes each season there is FA, draft, etc. Players come, players go. The core, Deebo, BA, Kittle, Mitchell, Trent, McG, Mack, Bosa, Warner, Ward, Armstead all remains. Imagine that core with us having an MVP caliber season out of the QB position and an offense which is indefensible.

What got us the most in 2021 it took Ryans a half season to get up to speed. Remember early season we were giving up more Rodgers meaningful drives in 30 seconds than we did in 60 minutes come playoffs. We got shelled mid season by Colt McCoy and James Conner. Game by game Ryans started to figure it out by season's end we were a defensive force. Give that guy an offseason.

SB odds for next year already have us installed as one of the favorites for the SB.

Lol bit players? Six of them are starters, and a few others make meaningful contributions. You don't lose that many contributors and expect it not to matter.

And Trey isn't having an MVP caliber season next year. He'll show flashes next year, but my best guess is that, like Jimmy, he'll need to be carried by the defense and run game.

Pack it up guys. We aren't gonna be any good next year. We may lose Arden Key a guy who I didn't know existed a year ago.

Yeah, these excuses are garbage. He's got so little faith in Trey he's already making excuses for him to fail. Negative as always. Down on the QB as always. It's all he does.

We'll be equally good, if not better.

#EXPOSED

If we're equally good or better, it's because Trey plays better than Jimmy.

Uhhh that's what a majority of us are saying. You're already saying Trey is a failure and making excuses that he's going to fail.. I thought it would take at least a week into the season for you to hate on Trey but not even 2 weeks after the SB.

The team is still plenty talented. If Jimmy came back I'd expect Super Bowl or a bust of a season with next year's team. I expect playoffs with Trey. I have faith in him, you don't. You are nothing but a hater.

I still am perplexed how my name is mocking Trey... Please explain your weird paranoia about me please. Gore? 49AT? That's pretty weird thing to fabricate.

You guys will never learn with your running to the left and heaving a60 yard throw that makes a qb. Just stop with idiotic madden thinking. Im sick of this s**t.

Trey needs to learn to carve a team from the pocket. Like Stafford, Brady, Brees, Manning, mahommes, Elway, Montana etc.

You know who failed in the NFL? Rocket armed athletes who never learned to qb.

Don't show me nasty clips of athletic off platform throws. Show me consistent 80 yard drives. That's what it takes in the NFL. The game isnt changing.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
You guys will never learn with your running to the left and heaving a60 yard throw that makes a qb. Just stop with idiotic madden thinking. Im sick of this s**t.

Trey needs to learn to carve a team from the pocket. Like Stafford, Brady, Brees, Manning, mahommes, Elway, Montana etc.

You know who failed in the NFL? Rocket armed athletes who never learned to qb.

Don't show me nasty clips of athletic off platform throws. Show me consistent 80 yard drives. That's what it takes in the NFL. The game isnt changing.

Yeah you're right Montana always set his feet on every throw…never made a off platform in his life lol.


lol yeah John Elway never made off platform throws…man you would have hated Elway



lol saying Mahomes "carves" up teams between the pocket…dude is the king of creating plays outside of the play call. It's part of the reason why he's so special.

How many 80 yards drives to you see anymore? You NEED the whole team to execute on every freaking play to make that happen. More plays equals MORE room for error. more flags playing behind the sticks, more missed blocks, more plays that could equal in TOs.

imagine people being mad at being able to score quicker lol? Ya'll straw man arguments are so boring now. Yes we get it you didn't want Trey and you think Jimmy is awesome…no need to make up s**t just because you don't like the outcome. No more propping up avg