Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
There is a radicalized cell within the Jimmy Club that would prefer Lance get traded so that Jimmy can flourish.

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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
There is a radicalized cell within the Jimmy Club that would prefer Lance get traded so that Jimmy can flourish.

Probably just as much as there are 'fans' who will constantly point out only the negative aspects of Garoppolos play, and who openly root for Garoppolo to fail, and possibly even get hurt.

Originally posted by socal1632:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by socal1632:
Currently, Rodgers has to put everything he has into 50-55 yarders. I guess keep him up there because he's AR.Haha.

He could flick them that far when he was younger but not now.

Honestly I just can't figure out why people say stuff without actually verifying if if it's true or not.


He didn't even step into that fully. Yeah, that's from 2020. 34 seconds in to a highlight reel by the way. Thirty. Four. Seconds.

I mean, here he's throwing about a 50 yarder (more if you account for Pythagoras) kind of off his back foot due to the pressure.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's like saying you don't like a certain food but you've never tried it....complaining about a player and not watching overall is kinda silly.

Except that he noted he will reserve judgement upon his performance with the 49ers. That is a realistic, and quite honestly a level headed approach.

Lol and then said this...

"has something like 318 plays of experience at the college level and yet are determined to convince themselves that he will be better than any of the touted prospects who have come into the league over the course of its existence and been left on the scrap heap of history."

also talked about not watching anything or knowing a damn thing about any of the other QBs.

again just say you guys don't value potential or like the draft BECAUSE that's exactly what the draft is.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lol and then said this...

"has something like 318 plays of experience at the college level and yet are determined to convince themselves that he will be better than any of the touted prospects who have come into the league over the course of its existence and been left on the scrap heap of history."

also talked about not watching anything or knowing a damn thing about any of the other QBs.

again just say you guys don't value potential or like the draft BECAUSE that's exactly what the draft is.

It's all irrelevant. The risk factor with the trade/selecting Lance is real. It's fact. Bottom line is, he's waiting to judge him in a 49er uniform, and that's all that matters. End of story.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Probably just as much as there are 'fans' who will constantly point out only the negative aspects of Garoppolos play, and who openly root for Garoppolo to fail, and possibly even get hurt.

Who has rooted for Jimmy to fail or get hurt? That's a silly thing to say and it's simply not true for the vast majority of SF fans.

we ALL wanted Jimmy to kick ass the moment he was traded here. Didn't go as planned, they've since invested in a top end talent at the QB. Sky high potential (OMG what a horrible word) on a great roster with a top coaching staff...how dare we get excited over that

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Who has rooted for Jimmy to fail or get hurt? That's a silly thing to say and it's simply not true for the vast majority of SF fans.

I didn't say anyone specifically has stated as such......just as I haven't read anybody state that they prefer Lance get traded so that Jimmy can flourish.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
It's all irrelevant. The risk factor with the trade/selecting Lance is real. It's fact. Bottom line is, he's waiting to judge him in a 49er uniform, and that's all that matters. End of story.

That's fine, again don't play it off like there isn't risk in ANY draft pick. That's literally what the draft is lol.

god forbid fans are excited over a young prospect that has top 5 potential...who getting thrown on a badass team with one of the best HCs in football OH and some of us have actually watched him along with all these other QBs.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by socal1632:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by socal1632:
Currently, Rodgers has to put everything he has into 50-55 yarders. I guess keep him up there because he's AR.Haha.

He could flick them that far when he was younger but not now.

Honestly I just can't figure out why people say stuff without actually verifying if if it's true or not.


He didn't even step into that fully. Yeah, that's from 2020. 34 seconds in to a highlight reel by the way. Thirty. Four. Seconds.

I mean, here he's throwing about a 50 yarder (more if you account for Pythagoras) kind of off his back foot due to the pressure.

.@AaronRodgers12 lets it fly to Marquez Valdes-Scantling for a 78-yard @packers touchdown! @MVS__11 #GoPackGo

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— NFL (@NFL) November 15, 2020

I mean for realz yo, it's like people are clamoring to self-own.



EDIT - That's about all I can stomach of a Packer highlight real. It's about 3.5 minutes in. Point is, he clearly can still throw incredible deep balls with seemingly little effort.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
I didn't say anyone specifically has stated as such......just as I haven't read anybody state that they prefer Lance get traded so that Jimmy can flourish.

Have a little faith in kyle & the FO. They made a legit move to get a top end QB.

SF has spent 2 1st rd picks on QBs since 1967 lol it was time to invest. Jimmy will get an opportunity to help the team and himself this yr and Lance will have everything needed to be successful long-term. This isn't your typical s**tty team drafting a QB in the top.

And for the OP instead of being a negative nancy, go watch the games. There's A LOT to like he fits like a glove with Kyle and his scheme.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's fine, again don't play it off like there isn't risk in ANY draft pick. That's literally what the draft is lol.

god forbid fans are excited over young prospect that has top 5 potential, gets thrown on a badass team with one of the best HCs in football OH and some of us have actually watched him along with all these other QBs.

Yeah....and? You can get hyped up all you want and be uber positive. Nothing wrong with that. I'm very much looking forward to seeing Lance myself as a 49er, but that's when I'm gonna judge him. Not in college, not on some instagram vid against air......as a 49er. That's all that really matters to me.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
There is a radicalized cell within the Jimmy Club that would prefer Lance get traded so that Jimmy can flourish.

Probably just as much as there are 'fans' who will constantly point out only the negative aspects of Garoppolos play, and who openly root for Garoppolo to fail, and possibly even get hurt.

I've actually seen posts of people hoping that Trey gets traded here. Haven't seen any hoping Jimmy gets hurt or does poorly. Anecdotal, I know.

I think Bucky Brooks' comments about Lance and his potential sum up what many of us have been saying for the last couple of years. He's fine with Jimmy this year or however long it takes Lance to be ready but he sees the potential that he rings to the offense. Kyle's offense is already good. With a playmaker at QB it could be almost impossible to stop.

Of course Lance has to be the QB that we hope he can be but I think he has a pretty good chance to succeed with this team. They shouldn't feel like they need to force him into the offense as long as Jimmy doesn't get hurt. I don't like giving up first round picks but that's the price you pay in today's game. If this team plays as well as most of us expect, those picks are going to be late picks. (28-32) Any player we took wasn't going to be one of the top 10 or 15 blue chip guys that turn a team around. Half the people on this forum have complained about Thomas, McGlinchey, and Kinlaw. These guys were all taken in the top half of round one.

Originally posted by jvangeystel:
I wouldn't bother Ny. There is a contingency of fans, no people who will always kill the buzz. They inevitably think it's smarter to "temper" expectations no matter what so you don't get "let down". That way the lows aren't quite so low. Ignoring the fact that it sucks the fun out of everything and they are making the highs not so high as well.

However I think something that's been missing from this convo a bit is the 7 months he's been training since his season got canceled. Maybe it's been discussed a bit but, I might of missed it. How much of a head start does that give us? Can we trust off-season workouts with qb gurus that aren't part of the NFL? If Lance has corrected his mechanics and is as smart as people say there is some hope that he will hit the ground running if Jimmy is hurt and/or plays poorly. That means he just needs to learn the playbook in camp and adjust to NFL speed.

I was originally a sit the guy year 1 no matter who, no matter what. I'm a fan of the Montana/Young, Farve/Rodgers, Smith/Mahomes model. However if he's ready he's ready and we do need that insurance that if/when Jimmy goes down the next guy has to be ready to step in. Also I trust that Kyle can make any young Qb look good for a few games. It's whether that Qb can elevate on his own as well and I think Trey has all the tools to do so.

Yeah anyone who's spent some time reading/watching/listening to everything draftwise on all these guys should be excited over Lance...throwing our negative stuff and then saying you don't watch anything is pretty lame imo.

you want to be pessimistic about it fine, there's plenty of reasons to be excited about it overall.

Yeah I brought up how him refining his mechanics and spending a ton of time with current NFL QBs going over NFL play books and treating every week like a NFL work week is big imo.

you want more live reps BUT spending that much time fine-tuning stuff is pretty awesome...I mean do we need to see him kick the s**t out of Montana State again? IMO if he stayed another yr he's the #1 pick in 2022...SF just got their hands on him a yr earlier and he's had basically a full yr to work on stuff that will help him more in the long-term.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Have a little faith in kyle & the FO. They made a legit move to get a top end QB.

SF has spent 2 1st rd picks on QBs since 1967 lol it was time to invest. Jimmy will get an opportunity to help the team and himself this yr and Lance will have everything needed to be successful long-term. This isn't your typical s**tty team drafting a QB in the top.

And for the OP instead of being a negative nancy, go watch the games. There's A LOT to like he fits like a glove with Kyle and his scheme.

Who says I don't have faith in Kyle and the FO? I was all for getting a QB, because of the way they operate - they get the guys they want. I am all about the Trey train. I also accept the fact that while this is a balls out move that I respect, it could also be the beginning of the end if it doesn't pan out. Again...that's not based on optimism or pessimism....it's based on realism. They have to get this trade/pick in Lance right.