Originally posted by socal1632:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SuckitPete:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
If I'm an opponent playing Lance, I'm not fearing his running ability unless he breaks off an 80 yard running TD like Kap did. If Lance is capable of that type of speed, he has yet to display it.
So allow him to gain 1st down after 1st down and defeat your team so long as it's not an 80 yarder? Can't say I've ever heard of this defensive philosophy.https://www.49erswebzone.com/roster/
I think his point is that Lance's speed is not really the type you have to game plan around.
I guess you could call him a "Mobil" QB, but it's more in the mold of Steve Young than Kap. He's not that fast, that quick, or that strong.
Correct. At least somebody doesn't take a comment to the extreme. QBs who will absolutely kill you running the ball if you don't account for it:
Lamar
Murray
Watson
Hurts
Wilson (game swing drives only)
Fields
These are QBs who absolutely can kill a defense for huge yards if they don't account for the running. With a 4.5 40 and being clocked very fast in a game, I'm sure Lance has that type of speed, but he has yet to show it.
Any QB with a slower than 4.6 40 time did not make this list: Rodgers, Allen, Mahomes.
I think two reasons we haven't seen Trey rip an 80 yard run, is first of all, he hasn't had to, specially with all the receiving talent he has and the arby talent that he can hand off too. Secondly, I think the coaches are intentionally calling runs for the redzone vs the middle of the field and only for short yardage (3rd and short, for example) such that he doesn't need to break a 80 yarder. The coaches really want him to play QB and not Arby, and so I think he's told to not run unless he has to, and since he's thinking still too much out there, once he does decide to run, it's a bit too late and his opportunity to rip a big one is diminished.
But it's not even that. He doesn't seem to be able to beat anyone around the edge. He isn't able to affect tackling angles.
Im wondering if he just isn't running at top speed yet as he's still figuring things out. This offense is demanding.
Go re-watch his previous games, he's able to rip big chunks on the ground. He has plenty of speed. I think teams like Houston (specially in the first half) were intentionally defending the run so he has to pass. Once he figured there was a spy on him - that's one less guy in coverage, he took advantage of that with his arm and started throwing rockets.
Dude was clocked once at about 22 mph on a run in college. He's flucking fast for his size. He's in the NFL now. Going to be a lot harder to get that edge given his size. Both his feet and arm pose major problems for defenses.
Totally agree. The X-Factor is Kyle Shanahan. Give Trey a decent to good (doesn't have to be a great run game) and he is going to be a very dangerous runner and with Kyle designing the passing game and getting the players to run it. I've never seen the I-formation used the way Kyle did for Mitchells go ahead TD pass. That was a power formation with power/gap blocking and then Kyle marries that with the outside zone run. On top of that a boot-action pass to Mitchell.
This run game is going to be near impossible to stop if he has the right OLInemen that can power/gap block as well as zone block.
Then you add Trey's howitzer of an arm and his mobility -
- we ain't seen nutin' yet. Wait till next year when Kyle has better pieces on the OLine and possibly another WR and more depth. I can see the unstoppable '94 offense resurrecting itself again.
