Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by mattster03:
He's been stopped short of first down yardage with his legs on 3rd or 4th down 8 times in his first two starts... just went back and counted because I was genuinely curious if I was imagining things. I believe he has only successfully achieved a 1st down twice on 3rd or 4th down... one was (I believe) called back and the other was a QB sneak.

ARI
1st qtr 5:31 3rd &7
1st qtr 4:46 4th & 2
2nd qtr 11:34 4th & goal

HOU
1st qtr 11:33 3rd &10
1st qtr 5:05 3rd & 2
3rd qtr 11:59 3rd & 4
3rd qtr 2:17 3rd & 8
4th qtr 2:00 3rd & 3

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
His straight line speed is fine, it's just he's not that sudden or twitchy, and doesn't have great acceleration. I pointed out his calf muscles a few days ago, they are long as opposed to short and knotted, which is what you see in twitchy athletes.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
His straight line speed is fine, it's just he's not that sudden or twitchy, and doesn't have great acceleration. I pointed out his calf muscles a few days ago, they are long as opposed to short and knotted, which is what you see in twitchy athletes.

Originally posted by socal1632:

Originally posted by mattster03:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Joecool:
If I'm an opponent playing Lance, I'm not fearing his running ability unless he breaks off an 80 yard running TD like Kap did. If Lance is capable of that type of speed, he has yet to display it.

That's not the kind of speed he has. His speed is more the type that burns a defense for the first when they don't account for it on 3rd down.

He's been stopped short of first down yardage with his legs on 3rd or 4th down 8 times in his first two starts... just went back and counted because I was genuinely curious if I was imagining things. I believe he has only successfully achieved a 1st down twice on 3rd or 4th down... one was (I believe) called back and the other was a QB sneak.

ARI
1st qtr 5:31 3rd &7
1st qtr 4:46 4th & 2
2nd qtr 11:34 4th & goal

HOU
1st qtr 11:33 3rd &10
1st qtr 5:05 3rd & 2
3rd qtr 11:59 3rd & 4
3rd qtr 2:17 3rd & 8
4th qtr 2:00 3rd & 3

He'll be a major problem to stop on those downs as he gets up to speed. His blasts through the line in college were his type of runs but he's not run first

Originally posted by SuckitPete:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Joecool:
If I'm an opponent playing Lance, I'm not fearing his running ability unless he breaks off an 80 yard running TD like Kap did. If Lance is capable of that type of speed, he has yet to display it.

So allow him to gain 1st down after 1st down and defeat your team so long as it's not an 80 yarder? Can't say I've ever heard of this defensive philosophy.

I think his point is that Lance's speed is not really the type you have to game plan around.

I guess you could call him a "Mobil" QB, but it's more in the mold of Steve Young than Kap. He's not that fast, that quick, or that strong.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
I've said this before but he's a slightly more athletic Dak Prescott as far as rushing ability. Nothing lights out but plenty mobile.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Am I the only one who's actually a little relieved he doesn't have crazy speed like Kyler or Lamar? It'll force him to play more similarly to Mahomes, Herbert, Allen.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
I've said this before but he's a slightly more athletic Dak Prescott as far as rushing ability. Nothing lights out but plenty mobile.

Am I the only one who's actually a little relieved he doesn't have crazy speed like Kyler or Lamar? It'll force him to play more similarly to Mahomes, Herbert, Allen.

Originally posted by NCommand:
With all due respect, when is everything clicking with this team? Maybe the Rams game? At best?

It seems like, at least for this year, Jimmy's cost us a couple games directly, special teams a couple and the defense a couple. At least...maybe a few each. That's why we're here.

Jimmy has won when the running game wasn't working, lost when it was, has closed out games when the defense was failing late, has tied it up or put his team in position late to win, was also the reason they were in that very position at times, has the most clutch points, most 90+ yard drives, etc.

To your last point, this year, from injuries to full team collapses, to usually only one unit playing great, other units inconsistent or failing, etc. it was just a roller coaster of a ride year. If it wasn't one thing, it was another.

Hopefully Trey will get to a level where we can deviate from our winning formula when needed or even transcend a units poor day.

Originally posted by Joecool:
If I'm an opponent playing Lance, I'm not fearing his running ability unless he breaks off an 80 yard running TD like Kap did. If Lance is capable of that type of speed, he has yet to display it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lance has been clocked at 21.54 MPH during a game and laser timed at 4.51 this off season.

He isn't as explosive as Jackson or kyler, not many QBs are… Once he gets moving he is plenty fast. Honestly like him playing in the pocket he's not confident in his runs either, you can seen he's hesitate to just take off too.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lance has been clocked at 21.54 MPH during a game and laser timed at 4.51 this off season.

He isn't as explosive as Jackson or kyler, not many QBs are… Once he gets moving he is plenty fast. Honestly like him playing in the pocket he's not confident in his runs either, you can seen he's hesitate to just take off too.

Yep the only reason he seems slower is because he has been hesitant on his runs. He's doing more juking and jiving than running.

Originally posted by 9erReign:
He hasn't juked a single defender.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I didn't say he was successful at it so far lol. That will come with more experience. But he has yet to get in open space where we can see how fast he is.