Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Trey's 116 QB rating was higher than any game Lawrence,Fields, and Z Wilson had this season. And higher than all but 4 of Mac's games. And it was his 2nd career NFL start and 1st in over 2 months.

and a mediocre first half sunday. ⬆️ 🆙

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Trey's 116 QB rating was higher than any game Lawrence,Fields, and Z Wilson had this season. And higher than all but 4 of Mac's games. And it was his 2nd career NFL start and 1st in over 2 months.

and a mediocre first half sunday. ⬆️ 🆙

First half was on Shanahan - play selection was terrible.

Originally posted by Giedi:
There are always negative ninnies on *every* board, not only just this one. So personally I'm excited, but there will be people that won't be.

I'm excited how the offseason will play out because I fully expect Kyle to start drafting Trey Lance players that will improve and extend his capabilities. Maybe more OLinemen to protect Trey, bigger and faster RB's to help the run game for Trey to lean on, like more of (Sermon and Wilson) who are much bigger backs than Mostert and Brieda. Maybe faster WR's like Goodwin 2.0 or Tyreek Hill 2.0. We shall see.

Is Coach Shanahan going to draft guys for Lance or guys for himself? Remember, Coach likes players he feels fit his schemes. If there is a defensive secondary threat available to the Niners when they are drafting (a WR who can "take the top off") does Kyle pull the trigger, or does he pick another RB he likes? There are more than a few good players in the NFL right now that could have been playing for the Red and Gold😎

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Trey's 116 QB rating was higher than any game Lawrence,Fields, and Z Wilson had this season. And higher than all but 4 of Mac's games. And it was his 2nd career NFL start and 1st in over 2 months.

and a mediocre first half sunday. ⬆️ 🆙

And, I will say after watching Lance Sunday, at least one deep threat for him is a necessity 😎

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Trey's 116 QB rating was higher than any game Lawrence,Fields, and Z Wilson had this season. And higher than all but 4 of Mac's games. And it was his 2nd career NFL start and 1st in over 2 months.

and a mediocre first half sunday. ⬆️ 🆙

I loved Trey's game against the Texans, however, keep in mind this team has Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle, and a good run offense, so (I think) if you put Lawerence and Zack in on this offense, they would perform similar to Trey. However, I like the fact that Trey is a year younger than both Zack and Trevor, and (I think) he doesn't have the kind of injury history that either Zack or Trevor had in college.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Heroism:

This angle of Trey Lance's rocket to Deebo Samuel is fire 🔥🔥 #49ers

🎥: @ConvoEnt | H/T @TheSFNiners_ pic.twitter.com/M5aAuzONCL

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) January 4, 2022

wow that is prett bad ass.. i was there and i'm not sure if i caught myself cheering before the throw.. but watching this and the crowd already seeing/cheering before Trey threw it and completes it.. no pressure Ice Trey

WOW watching the crowd and players reaction gives me chills lol

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Trey's 116 QB rating was higher than any game Lawrence,Fields, and Z Wilson had this season. And higher than all but 4 of Mac's games. And it was his 2nd career NFL start and 1st in over 2 months.

and a mediocre first half sunday. ?? ????

I loved Trey's game against the Texans, however, keep in mind this team has Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle, and a good run offense, so (I think) if you put Lawerence and Zack in on this offense, they would perform similar to Trey.

Both were valued higher so if that's the case, WIN: Trey.

Originally posted by Furlow:


All of his 2019 TD passes. Very different (and much nicer in my opinion) release. Tight spirals. Maybe he's having trouble adjusting to the NFL footballs, which are slightly different in size to college footballs? I don't know, just a guess. Don't know why that would change his mechanics so much though.

ya this is what i was talking about. something changed with his mechanics after college, not sure why.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
ya this is what i was talking about. something changed with his mechanics after college, not sure why.

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Bro, right? What is happening right now? Lol.

To your other posts about his college mechanics, I just watched a bunch of his college throws, much tighter and higher release as you said. Would love to know the story behind the change. Or maybe it was just "jitters" or whatever from being a rookie.

A poster just said...

Originally posted by 49erminion:
probably a manifestation of him trying to improve his mechanics. doesnt happen overnight

Kyle has already mentioned him tightening up/changing up some of his release mechanics (post Texans game). You still wondering?

So in trying to improve, they got worse/uglier? Interesting theory you have.

So "he's trying to throw differently" is not a good enough answer right now and you're still going to wonder what's up. Is this what you're saying?

Who said the bolded? You quoted it so I'm assuming someone actually said this?

Kyle told us he's throwing the ball differently.

You didn't answer the question. Why the delay? Are you truly wondering about this or just trying to needlessly drag it out?

So no one actually said that, you just quoted it to try and make your point stronger. Lol got it.

Kyle said it. He's adjusted his throwing motion since earlier in the season. You were wondering what's up with the change in how some of his passes look.

If Kyle had said "no,....he's throwing the exact same way as he did earlier in the season, as far as I know,".......I could see the reason to be curious.

Lol but if the coach has told you in plain English that Trey's been making modifications MIDSEASON, I see no reason to still be curious about it, as the coach has pretty much answered your curiosity about what (if anything) has changed. It means he's in the lab, he's tinkering, he's toying, and quite naturally even if Kyle never said a word, the work is incomplete.

Are you still curious anyway?

You've now quoted Kyle as saying "throwing it differently" and "making modifications midseason" even though you can't possibly quote him saying either of those things. You're all over the place with this opinion of yours, and it's ridiculous. All because you're butt hurt that a few of us don't like the throwing motion/mechanics from this past game? I mean are you really THAT sensitive?

Only a few people are being true haters of Trey and they are obvious. Throw them out. The people asking about his mechanics seem genuine. Again, just watch his college highlights from 2019 and look how much lower/sidearm his release was this past Sunday. If that is intentional, I'd really like to know why. Because the ball was wobbly as hell and a lower release point makes it easier for the defense to bat the ball down. It simply makes no sense to make that change.

Shanahan also said it's probably accurate to say that Lance has tightened his throwing motion up a bit since the start of the season — probably not as long of looping motion as it was — said it's something he's worked on https://t.co/ZfC4w2iYCa

— Jake Hutchinson (@hutchdiesel) January 3, 2022

A real quote, sweet! "Tightened his throwing motion up a bit" (debatable) are MUCH different than random's BS quotes that no one said (except him) "throwing it differently" and "making modifications midseason." And no one with eyes would say that Trey's throwing mechanics were "tighter" on Sunday versus 2020 nor 2019. Just go watch the damn tape. Sheesh.

lol. arguing semantics.

I was arguing improper and misleading use of quotation marks.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:
A real quote, sweet! "Tightened his throwing motion up a bit" (debatable) are MUCH different than random's BS quotes that no one said (except him) "throwing it differently" and "making modifications midseason." And no one with eyes would say that Trey's throwing mechanics were "tighter" on Sunday versus 2020 nor 2019. Just go watch the damn tape. Sheesh.

1. Why are you making it about me instead of your initial curiosity?

2. There's no quotations in your example of a "real quote." He paraphrased just like I did.

3. The original reply was if a guy is tinkering around with his release as a rookie midseason, perfect balls thrown everytime can be seen as an under construction project. Is that reasonable or not?

I don't know who Jake Hutchinson is, but I was assuming he's someone with direct access to Kyle, hence his QUOTATION of him in his initial tweet. And if he indeed has direct access, he'd be a fool to paraphrase and not offer the direct quote to back it up. You know, as you are now. Since you're just a wannabe know-it-all on a fan message board, you're excused.

Still no clue where you're going with #3, but I'll try. I never said that he shouldn't try to improve his mechanics, even mid-season. That's fine. But what we saw on Sunday was in no way, shape or form an improvement over his 2019 or even 2020 mechanics. What you see if you watch tape from 2019 to 2020 to 2021 is a degradation in his footwork, mechanics, and release. His ball did not wobble in 2019. His release was tighter, faster, and over the top in 2019. So something is "different," without a doubt. I hope it's not intentional, because it's going away from what is traditionally successful. I'll chalk it up to rookie jitters and not many game reps to watch film and make improvements on.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Furlow:


All of his 2019 TD passes. Very different (and much nicer in my opinion) release. Tight spirals. Maybe he's having trouble adjusting to the NFL footballs, which are slightly different in size to college footballs? I don't know, just a guess. Don't know why that would change his mechanics so much though.

ya this is what i was talking about. something changed with his mechanics after college, not sure why.

Well according to Shanahan, he's "trying to tighten up his mechanics" which to random means he's "throwing it differently" and "making modifications midseason." Lol.

Again, whether intentional or not, Trey 2019 mechanics and footwork >>>>> Trey 2021 mechanics and footwork.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Still no clue where you're going with #3, but I'll try. I never said that he shouldn't try to improve his mechanics, even mid-season. That's fine. But what we saw on Sunday was in no way, shape or form an improvement over his 2019 or even 2020 mechanics. What you see if you watch tape from 2019 to 2020 to 2021 is a degradation in his footwork, mechanics, and release. His ball did not wobble in 2019. His release was tighter, faster, and over the top in 2019. So something is "different," without a doubt. I hope it's not intentional, because it's going away from what is traditionally successful. I'll chalk it up to rookie jitters and not many game reps to watch film and make improvements on.

Not going to contend anything is improved. Clearly, things are under construction, per Shanahan's comments. That might induce some wobbly passes because you're going a little more away from your routine throwing motions you've already perfected to new one(s) that might take a little while to perfect.

Is this a legit possibility or not?

Originally posted by Furlow:
Well according to Shanahan, he's "trying to tighten up his mechanics" which to random means he's "throwing it differently" and "making modifications midseason." Lol.

If something's not the same as it previously was, it's different/modified. So maybe the results aren't always perfect right away, no?