Originally posted by 49erminion:
Dam...Trey's hands are smaller than everyone's including Alex Smith and pipsqueak Kyler Murray. Lawrence, Wilson, Jones, and Fields all have bigger hands.
The guy literally threw 28 TDs and no INTs with those hands and he's not done growing yet, Who cares
Originally posted by thl408:
It sounds a bit backwards to say, "he's inexperienced throwing the ball so he needs to sit and watch". Doesn't he need to play and throw? I know we're talking more about in-season, and so I hope Kyle can work him into some subpackages for development sake. Give Lance some film of himself to watch and learn from. Really curious how Kyle approaches this.
Lance needs to get a high number of preseason snaps imo. Let the competition for backup QB mainly take place in camp. Let Lance get a bunch of preseason snaps so he can adjust to NFL speed. I figure 'NFL preseason second half' is similar to high level college speed.
He definitely needs to play and throw but its still a huge step up from the level he was playing at and the NFL. I watch a lot of NDSU and they basically run roughshod over people with a power run game reminiscent of the 2011 49ers. Opposing defenses put far more emphasis on stopping the run than the pass.
I think a preseason and a full season of simply getting to sit, study NFL coverages, learn the offense and continue improving his mechanics would serve him well.
I wonder if there will be some sort of balancing act for Kyle, whether he looks to get Lance on the field during the season. I can see Lance contributing in goal line packages as a rookie where his threat to run can give him the chance to run it in himself, or use that threat to make some easy completions to open targets. These types of plays aren't complicated and can get Lance's feet wet while in the flow of the game. Jimmy drives them down the field and Lance punches it in.
Check out the plays at 0:45 and 3:22. They're simple and uses Lance's dual threat ability.
goaline..
And then PHI went on to win the SB. I'll take it.
If Lance doesn't learn to protect himself as a runner, then yeah, this is a legit danger to playing him.
I'm still halfway watching through this video, but from what I've seen beyond going out of bounds he prefers to power-through or even trunk players alot. I hope he learns how to slide even on designed runs. How hard would it be for him to learn that? As evidence by his cleaner mechanics he seems extremely coachable and flexible, but I hope the Cam-style power running doesn't become a habit
[ Edited by ninerFate on May 6, 2021 at 10:07 AM ]
Originally posted by thl408:
It sounds a bit backwards to say, "he's inexperienced throwing the ball so he needs to sit and watch". Doesn't he need to play and throw? I know we're talking more about in-season, and so I hope Kyle can work him into some subpackages for development sake. Give Lance some film of himself to watch and learn from. Really curious how Kyle approaches this.
Lance needs to get a high number of preseason snaps imo. Let the competition for backup QB mainly take place in camp. Let Lance get a bunch of preseason snaps so he can adjust to NFL speed. I figure 'NFL preseason second half' is similar to high level college speed.
He definitely needs to play and throw but its still a huge step up from the level he was playing at and the NFL. I watch a lot of NDSU and they basically run roughshod over people with a power run game reminiscent of the 2011 49ers. Opposing defenses put far more emphasis on stopping the run than the pass.
I think a preseason and a full season of simply getting to sit, study NFL coverages, learn the offense and continue improving his mechanics would serve him well.
I wonder if there will be some sort of balancing act for Kyle, whether he looks to get Lance on the field during the season. I can see Lance contributing in goal line packages as a rookie where his threat to run can give him the chance to run it in himself, or use that threat to make some easy completions to open targets. These types of plays aren't complicated and can get Lance's feet wet while in the flow of the game. Jimmy drives them down the field and Lance punches it in.
Check out the plays at 0:45 and 3:22. They're simple and uses Lance's dual threat ability.
goaline..
And then PHI went on to win the SB. I'll take it.
If Lance doesn't learn to protect himself as a runner, then yeah, this is a legit danger to playing him.
I'm still halfway watching through this video, but from what I've seen beyond going out of bounds he prefers to power-through or even trunk players alot. I hope he learns how to slide even on designed runs. How hard would it be for him to learn that? As evidence by his cleaner mechanics he seem extremely coachable and flexible, but I hope the Cam-style power running becomes a habit
Did you mean Cam-style power running doesn't become a habit? No QB is as big as Cam and Lance isn't in the FCS anymore. He won't last long running like he did in college so Kyle needs to drive home the point of not trucking anymore. Maybe truck a CB, but not safeties and definitely not LBs.
Originally posted by thl408:
Did you mean Cam-style power running doesn't become a habit? No QB is as big as Cam and Lance isn't in the FCS anymore. He won't last long running like he did in college so Kyle needs to drive home the point of not trucking anymore. Maybe truck a CB, but not safeties and definitely not LBs.
Yeah he needs to be encouraged to slide at every opportunity. Wilson in Seattle takes off and get down quickly, avoids contact whenever possible and has managed to stay healthy for a long time. Last thing you want to see is a QB that you invested so much in trying to truck a 250 pound LB. They're a lot bigger in the NFL than in in the FCS.
Originally posted by thl408:
Did you mean Cam-style power running doesn't become a habit? No QB is as big as Cam and Lance isn't in the FCS anymore. He won't last long running like he did in college so Kyle needs to drive home the point of not trucking anymore. Maybe truck a CB, but not safeties and definitely not LBs.
Yeah he needs to be encouraged to slide at every opportunity. Wilson in Seattle takes off and get down quickly, avoids contact whenever possible and has managed to stay healthy for a long time. Last thing you want to see is a QB that you invested so much in trying to truck a 250 pound LB. They're a lot bigger in the NFL than in in the FCS.
Yeah I think he acknowledged that in one of his interviews. He will be sliding and more aware of protecting himself at this level
Originally posted by thl408:
Did you mean Cam-style power running doesn't become a habit? No QB is as big as Cam and Lance isn't in the FCS anymore. He won't last long running like he did in college so Kyle needs to drive home the point of not trucking anymore. Maybe truck a CB, but not safeties and definitely not LBs.
Yeah he needs to be encouraged to slide at every opportunity. Wilson in Seattle takes off and get down quickly, avoids contact whenever possible and has managed to stay healthy for a long time. Last thing you want to see is a QB that you invested so much in trying to truck a 250 pound LB. They're a lot bigger in the NFL than in in the FCS.
Isn't Lance supposed to be one of the smartest QB's in this draft? If so, I think he will be able to figure out rather quickly that trucking FCS defenders isn't quite the same as trucking NFL defenders.
Originally posted by thl408:
Did you mean Cam-style power running doesn't become a habit? No QB is as big as Cam and Lance isn't in the FCS anymore. He won't last long running like he did in college so Kyle needs to drive home the point of not trucking anymore. Maybe truck a CB, but not safeties and definitely not LBs.
Yeah he needs to be encouraged to slide at every opportunity. Wilson in Seattle takes off and get down quickly, avoids contact whenever possible and has managed to stay healthy for a long time. Last thing you want to see is a QB that you invested so much in trying to truck a 250 pound LB. They're a lot bigger in the NFL than in in the FCS.
Get Steve Young to explain it to him. Get down or get out of bounds.
Originally posted by thl408:
It sounds a bit backwards to say, "he's inexperienced throwing the ball so he needs to sit and watch". Doesn't he need to play and throw? I know we're talking more about in-season, and so I hope Kyle can work him into some subpackages for development sake. Give Lance some film of himself to watch and learn from. Really curious how Kyle approaches this.
Lance needs to get a high number of preseason snaps imo. Let the competition for backup QB mainly take place in camp. Let Lance get a bunch of preseason snaps so he can adjust to NFL speed. I figure 'NFL preseason second half' is similar to high level college speed.
He definitely needs to play and throw but its still a huge step up from the level he was playing at and the NFL. I watch a lot of NDSU and they basically run roughshod over people with a power run game reminiscent of the 2011 49ers. Opposing defenses put far more emphasis on stopping the run than the pass.
I think a preseason and a full season of simply getting to sit, study NFL coverages, learn the offense and continue improving his mechanics would serve him well.
I wonder if there will be some sort of balancing act for Kyle, whether he looks to get Lance on the field during the season. I can see Lance contributing in goal line packages as a rookie where his threat to run can give him the chance to run it in himself, or use that threat to make some easy completions to open targets. These types of plays aren't complicated and can get Lance's feet wet while in the flow of the game. Jimmy drives them down the field and Lance punches it in.
Check out the plays at 0:45 and 3:22. They're simple and uses Lance's dual threat ability.
goaline..
And then PHI went on to win the SB. I'll take it.
If Lance doesn't learn to protect himself as a runner, then yeah, this is a legit danger to playing him.
I'm still halfway watching through this video, but from what I've seen beyond going out of bounds he prefers to power-through or even trunk players alot. I hope he learns how to slide even on designed runs. How hard would it be for him to learn that? As evidence by his cleaner mechanics he seem extremely coachable and flexible, but I hope the Cam-style power running becomes a habit
Did you mean Cam-style power running doesn't become a habit? No QB is as big as Cam and Lance isn't in the FCS anymore. He won't last long running like he did in college so Kyle needs to drive home the point of not trucking anymore. Maybe truck a CB, but not safeties and definitely not LBs.
