Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by socal1632:
He's the all time Madden code.🤣. Trey could be up there too but Trey is pass first. He's a qb who can also run like hell. Against the best teams Lamar wil revert to run first. This is the problem.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by BSofSF:

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
no,
your original take was made in comparison to Kap with "Kap issues", of which I pushed back on

so yes, for your sake. there's more reasons to be hopeful about with Trey than there ever were with Kap.

not talking about Jimmy. Jimmy's irrelevant here.

Yes, like winding up, throwing it too hard, throwing it without touch, throwing it inaccurately, and a desire to run north-south. How is it so controversial to compare obvious similarities between Lance and Kaepernick? The key distinction, you argue, is that Lance is looking down field and is going to make the plays that Kaepernick couldn't. My reply to that is, fine, when he is doing that we'll know. Won't need to study tape of where his eyes and feet are on still pause, because he'll be consistently moving chains and breaking the backs of defenses. He's not there yet. I'm not bitter that he's not there yet. It was well advertised that he'll need time to sit and develop. But, in the meantime, I'd rather see us try to make the playoffs this year with Jimmy.

We moved past midfield on 8/9 drives against the Cardinals. How is he not moving the chains?

With Jimmy, we've only moved past midfield on 12/24 drives against GB, Sea, and Philly. They're all significantly worse defenses than Arizona.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I guess the league hasn't figured out Jackson

I'll just leave this here. pic.twitter.com/q3waQP3gSZ

— Peter Schrager (@PSchrags) October 12, 2021

Until the postseason. He's faced 4 teams in the bottom half of the league in defense and the Broncos who held him to one TD pass (on an amazing diving grab by Brown) and 28 rushing yards.

Dude has over 1,800 yards of offense...I don't care who's he's faced that's more than our whole team and 13th overall (for a team). We've faced the Lions/Seattle/AZ/Philly/GB, none are really juggernaut defenses all around.

Right. By DVOA, Arizona was by far the toughest defense we've faced all year (6th). No other team we've played currently ranks higher than 23rd.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Ravens have faced the two lowest (KC and Detroit) and the highest they faced was Denver (7). Average is 21.2 vs 21.8. Pretty even.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I guess the league hasn't figured out Jackson

I'll just leave this here. pic.twitter.com/q3waQP3gSZ

— Peter Schrager (@PSchrags) October 12, 2021

Until the postseason. He's faced 4 teams in the bottom half of the league in defense and the Broncos who held him to one TD pass (on an amazing diving grab by Brown) and 28 rushing yards.

Dude has over 1,800 yards of offense...I don't care who's he's faced that's more than our whole team and 13th overall (for a team). We've faced the Lions/Seattle/AZ/Philly/GB, none are really juggernaut defenses all around.

Originally posted by Scooper1:

Originally posted by bmvanthiel:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Well this is all unraveling about how I predicted, just much quicker. Who would've thought that an athlete from Minnesota who wasn't good enough to play big time ball 3 years ago doesn't hold up against NFL defenders when being used as a battering ram? Honestly, who would've thought?
Hope this doesn't effect his "time the ball spends in the air" stat

It's pretty pathetic to be so damn giddy that a player on the team you supposedly root for suffered an injury. Luckily, it doesn't appear that he'll miss any time.

Very pathetic. I'm pretty a few of these posters aren't even 49er fans. Some of the stuff they post is what I'd be saying about the Cowboys or Seahawks.

So funny that bamaniner is constantly talking s**t about the level of competition Trey played in when the fcs has produced more quality starting qbs than the hands down premier program in college football in Alabama. They can't even produce a guy that can win a starting job let alone be a quality starter. Jury's still out on mac obviously . Everyone knew he'd be the most nfl ready in the class but can he do anymore than game manage?? Certainly has zero special traits whatsoever.

Alabama qbs you'd think a program like Alabama could produce Atleast 1 decent qb
-Mac ?
-Tua-not very good and injury prone. Dolphins spend a #5 overall and there's already tons of chatter they'll move on. Not a good look.
-mccaron trash
-McElroy-trash

FCS
-Lance???
-Wentz- 3rd in mvp voting, quality starter injury prone
-Garappolo-quality starter. Super bowl qb
-Joe Flacco-quality starter super bowl mvp
-Tony Romo-far better than quality starters
-Ryan Fitzpatrick-10-12 year career
-Steve McNair-nfl mvp super bowl mvp
-Kurt Warner- hall of famer

Long story short ndsu and eastern Illinois can produce better qbs than Alabama.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by lamontb:
Has Lamar Jackson been injured?

Lamar Jackson is trying to evade the tacklers. Trey Lance is running like a bull in between the tackles diving head first every other play trying to truck the entire opposing D-line. That is the difference. And by the way, have you even seen him slide once? I don't think I have.

Seemed like a pretty simple yes or no question. Thanks for not answering. Anybody else know if Lamar has ever been injured?

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Gotta subtract the 60 yards in sacks though, so only 1800.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Well since you go back to Warner and McNair I will go back to
Joe Namath
Bart Starr
Ken Stabler
Anyways Trey played like 13 games and used his legs in big games as opposed to his arm. That doesn't work with the big boys

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Gotta subtract the 60 yards in sacks though, so only 1800.

make sure to do the same for SF and all the other teams too

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yes he has.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BSofSF:

Yes, like winding up, throwing it too hard, throwing it without touch, throwing it inaccurately, and a desire to run north-south. How is it so controversial to compare obvious similarities between Lance and Kaepernick? The key distinction, you argue, is that Lance is looking down field and is going to make the plays that Kaepernick couldn't. My reply to that is, fine, when he is doing that we'll know. Won't need to study tape of where his eyes and feet are on still pause, because he'll be consistently moving chains and breaking the backs of defenses. He's not there yet. I'm not bitter that he's not there yet. It was well advertised that he'll need time to sit and develop. But, in the meantime, I'd rather see us try to make the playoffs this year with Jimmy.

LOL talk about being dramatic with takes....his "wind up" is nothing compared to Kap. You've got QB coaches talking about it saying it's not an issue. He has fast hands which helps with any "longer" throw, everything about him is more twitchy than Kap including how he throws the ball... Go look around the league plenty of QBs don't have tight compact releases. It's the one thing that Jimmy does well and probably what you're use to seeing. The whole throwing without touch is such a bad take too. He throws it hard when he has too. tight window throws can't flutter in there, especially with these middle of the field throws into traffic. He had no problem throwing with touch on screens and to juice on those hot routes. It wasn't all laser beams at NDSU as well. He has touch.

Like I said he is BY FAR more twitchy then Kap, same as a runner. He made moves inside the pocket to get around pressure that Kap can't make. WHY not compare him to Josh Allen? Both weren't 5 star recruits, both played in smaller colleges, both have elite skill sets, both have had accuracy issues (Allen was actually worse), both didn't have ideal mechanics coming into the league, both relied on their legs early into their career.

Why do you think we make the playoffs with Jimmy?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Well since you go back to Warner and McNair I will go back to
Joe Namath
Bart Starr
Ken Stabler
Anyways Trey played like 13 games and used his legs in big games as opposed to his arm. That doesn't work with the big boys

Only it does in today's game. The league is setup for that now. The rules have changed...we all want a guy that can do both and Lance will require more time to focus on in the pocket play...but any logical patient fan should understand this.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Gotta subtract the 60 yards in sacks though, so only 1800.

make sure to do the same for SF and all the other teams too

That is how total offense yardage already works.