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Oct 4, 2021 at 3:56 PM
Originally posted by Eli_23:
IF Lance was in on that double pass trick play, do you think he would have executed it better than Jimmy?

that play is what most likely got Jimmy hurt. a high pass, hows that for irony lol
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Oct 4, 2021 at 3:57 PM
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
the crow you guys are gonna eat is going to be delicious. i cant even believe how knee jerk some of you are on here, are we really dismissing the dude after half a game? he wasnt even as terrible as you guys are making him out to be.

He wasnt that bad I agree
Oct 4, 2021 at 4:06 PM
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Tired of people just dismissing a stat because if comes from PFF.

True or False....the QBs having the better seasons are the ones in the upper right quadrant? You dont need to answer that. Its unquestionably true.

Yep yep basically this chart just tells us except for Fields, the same QBs that outperform him under pressure, outperform him with a clean pocket. He's been pedestrian in both as we already know, and per the chart's verification.

If there was some narrative where he's been great this year with a clean pocket he'd at least be over in Justin's area as the arrow points to.

Oct 4, 2021 at 4:08 PM
Originally posted by Eli_23:
IF Lance was in on that double pass trick play, do you think he would have executed it better than Jimmy?

Using a backup backup RB to do that was stupid.
Oct 4, 2021 at 4:10 PM
Originally posted by Eli_23:
IF Lance was in on that double pass trick play, do you think he would have executed it better than Jimmy?

Yes he would have..... because he's taller than Jimmy, and was more healthy at that time.
Oct 4, 2021 at 4:10 PM
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by ltrain:
. So, they both suck?

Charted from PFF grades so take it with a grain of salt.

Tired of people just dismissing a stat because if comes from PFF.

True or False....the QBs having the better seasons are the ones in the upper right quadrant? You dont need to answer that. Its unquestionably true.

Well, they have Daniel Jones charted better than Aaron Rodgers.....

Well yea but it's still very early in the season. This stuff will even out,...cant make too much out of it too early.
Oct 4, 2021 at 4:11 PM
Originally posted by badguy_1:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Read up! Trey was brought in to be Steve Young 2.0


I remember that article. He made the same point years before about Kaepernick and the need to exhaust the play before looking to run. It took years of Young having that hammered in to him. That, essentially, his 12 yard runs weren't something to be proud of when he had a receiver open 10 yards down field because he was simplifying the defenses job. But, on those occasions where the defense took everything away he could still run. IF Trey is Young 2.0, we should all be beyond happy. Young was always my favorite 49er.

If Trey is half the player Steve Young was then we are set for the next 15 years

Kyler Murray is probably the closest thing to being half of Steve Young (or any player over 6ft) in the league.
Oct 4, 2021 at 4:20 PM
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Oct 4, 2021 at 4:23 PM
Originally posted by jcs:

Sigh this isn't what we need TBH. We need certainty that Trey will start so the team can prep accordingly and he will be for sure ready. Having this uncertainty if Jimmy is available just clouds things. Even if he's good to go, you know damn well he's not going to perform well if it's indeed true that it is the reason why he played like crap yesterday.
Oct 4, 2021 at 4:28 PM
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Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by jcs:

Sigh this isn't what we need TBH. We need certainty that Trey will start so the team can prep accordingly and he will be for sure ready. Having this uncertainty if Jimmy is available just clouds things. Even if he's good to go, you know damn well he's not going to perform well if it's indeed true that it is the reason why he played like crap yesterday.

+1. Give Trey all the 1st team snaps because if by Sat Jimmy is a no go or if after the first hit sunday he goes down again we'll be back to playing backyard ball and that doesn't help the kid at all.
Oct 4, 2021 at 4:29 PM
Psyche.

[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 4, 2021 at 4:32 PM ]
Oct 4, 2021 at 4:31 PM
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Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by Eli_23:
IF Lance was in on that double pass trick play, do you think he would have executed it better than Jimmy?

that play is what most likely got Jimmy hurt. a high pass, hows that for irony lol


"He got hurt sometime in the first half," the coach said. "He said he got stepped on. I'm not sure which play. But he played for a while with it. He didn't think it was that bad at the time. Then about a minute before halftime ended, and trying to get it going, he just couldn't push off it. So, right at the end of halftime, we realized he couldn't go."
Oct 4, 2021 at 4:43 PM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Psyche.


It's fitting that you chose to post this in the Lance thread, instead of the Jimmy G one.
Oct 4, 2021 at 4:43 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
no one cares about 5 yrs ago though...rules have changed since then. But if you want to talk about one SB how about vs Baltimore. Flacco balled out through the playoffs and had no problem throwing it downfield.

Eli Manning one two SBs on crazy throws downfield. There's a balance to all of it and right now these team wasn't balanced at all.

Look at this fun stat


Why can't we get in on that action?

This. In addition to tailoring a scheme to hide his weaknesses, Shanahan should be creating it around his strengths. And what are his strengths right now? Running and LAUNCHING the ball. If we sent Aiyuk streaking down the field and Trey let's that puppy go, we either get a huge completion or PI.
Oct 4, 2021 at 4:43 PM
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by Eli_23:
IF Lance was in on that double pass trick play, do you think he would have executed it better than Jimmy?

that play is what most likely got Jimmy hurt. a high pass, hows that for irony lol


"He got hurt sometime in the first half," the coach said. "He said he got stepped on. I'm not sure which play. But he played for a while with it. He didn't think it was that bad at the time. Then about a minute before halftime ended, and trying to get it going, he just couldn't push off it. So, right at the end of halftime, we realized he couldn't go."

If Jimmy got stepped on, someone would have been able to come up with video evidence of this by now.

Its incredibly likely that he DIDNT get stepped on, and it just felt like he did (which is NOT good).
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