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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

That's a good point, but there are three other points to consider: 1) Watson has a no-trade clause, 2) Miami may not be ready to give up on Tua, and 3) Caserio has a connection with Jimmy.

Those factors change the calculus at least a little bit.

Can't wait to see how this all plays out.
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Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

That's a good point, but there are three other points to consider: 1) Watson has a no-trade clause, 2) Miami may not be ready to give up on Tua, and 3) Caserio has a connection with Jimmy.

Those factors change the calculus at least a little bit.

Can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Jimmy has a no trade clause and may not want to be traded to the dumpster fire in Houston
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

That's a good point, but there are three other points to consider: 1) Watson has a no-trade clause, 2) Miami may not be ready to give up on Tua, and 3) Caserio has a connection with Jimmy.

Those factors change the calculus at least a little bit.

Can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Jimmy has a no trade clause and may not want to be traded to the dumpster fire in Houston

He won't give up the last two years of that contract. He'll waive that clause and get paid by the Texans.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

Doesn't Watson have a no-trade clause though? I'd think if it were really between us and Miami, he'd choose here
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

That's a good point, but there are three other points to consider: 1) Watson has a no-trade clause, 2) Miami may not be ready to give up on Tua, and 3) Caserio has a connection with Jimmy.

Those factors change the calculus at least a little bit.

Can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Jimmy has a no trade clause and may not want to be traded to the dumpster fire in Houston

He won't give up the last two years of that contract. He'll waive that clause and get paid by the Texans.

What guarantee does he have that the Texans would pay him the last two years? Surely for waiving his no trade he'd expect the final two years to be fully guaranteed.
[ Edited by okdkid on Jan 16, 2021 at 12:44 PM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by proniner1:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by boast:
Jimmy has a no trade clause for this season. there's no way he's going to sign off on a trade to that dysfunctional team. it doesn't matter what the Texans or ShannyLynch would do.

I agree with that (unless he loves whomever is the HC) he gets cut and makes much less money on the open market though....

better than being in the s**t show that TEX has quickly become. no doubt Bill would offer him something fair in NE.

He makes more money that way, if not he can get cut and i dont think he gets near the money he is going to get if traded

Jimmy is not going to give up the last two years of his contract. He'll waive his no-trade clause and get his money with the Texans.

dude already got paid. playing for a team of your choice is worth way more than being stuck on one of the most dysfunctional s**tty talent-starved teams in the NFL.
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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
As soon as he becomes a Niner I'm buying his jersey

As soon as he becomes a Niner - I'm going to cream my pants.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

That's a good point, but there are three other points to consider: 1) Watson has a no-trade clause, 2) Miami may not be ready to give up on Tua, and 3) Caserio has a connection with Jimmy.

Those factors change the calculus at least a little bit.

Can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Jimmy has a no trade clause and may not want to be traded to the dumpster fire in Houston

He won't give up the last two years of that contract. He'll waive that clause and get paid by the Texans.

Texans have no cap room
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Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

That's a good point, but there are three other points to consider: 1) Watson has a no-trade clause, 2) Miami may not be ready to give up on Tua, and 3) Caserio has a connection with Jimmy.

Those factors change the calculus at least a little bit.

Can't wait to see how this all plays out.

It's not just about Miami giving up on Tua. It's that the Texans would have to be sold on Tua. That is a massive difference. Because if they take on Tua, they will be passing on this year's crop of top QB prospects as well -- regardless of the picks they obtain.

I would be VERY surprised if the Texans walk away from this season going "yep, Tua, that's our guy!"
[ Edited by okdkid on Jan 16, 2021 at 12:43 PM ]
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

That's a good point, but there are three other points to consider: 1) Watson has a no-trade clause, 2) Miami may not be ready to give up on Tua, and 3) Caserio has a connection with Jimmy.

Those factors change the calculus at least a little bit.

Can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Jimmy has a no trade clause and may not want to be traded to the dumpster fire in Houston

He won't give up the last two years of that contract. He'll waive that clause and get paid by the Texans.

What guarantee does he have that the Texas would pay him the last two years? Surely for waiving his no trade he'd expect the final two years to be fully guaranteed.

It'd have to be agreed upon between Jimmy and the Texans.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
As soon as he becomes a Niner I'm buying his jersey

As soon as he becomes a Niner - I'm going to cream my pants.

Nice
[ Edited by ninerfan4life on Jan 16, 2021 at 12:46 PM ]
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

That's a good point, but there are three other points to consider: 1) Watson has a no-trade clause, 2) Miami may not be ready to give up on Tua, and 3) Caserio has a connection with Jimmy.

Those factors change the calculus at least a little bit.

Can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Jimmy has a no trade clause and may not want to be traded to the dumpster fire in Houston

He won't give up the last two years of that contract. He'll waive that clause and get paid by the Texans.

What guarantee does he have that the Texas would pay him the last two years? Surely for waiving his no trade he'd expect the final two years to be fully guaranteed.

It'd have to be agreed upon between Jimmy and the Texans.

Sure...the agreement wouldn't be a handshake. It would be a contract change. Garoppolo would bear ALL the risk in that relationship. Why would he opt-in? Makes zero sense for him.

Even if he's cut (he won't be) he'd still get to choose an org that's best for him. He'd always get paid very well on a short term deal.
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

That's a good point, but there are three other points to consider: 1) Watson has a no-trade clause, 2) Miami may not be ready to give up on Tua, and 3) Caserio has a connection with Jimmy.

Those factors change the calculus at least a little bit.

Can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Jimmy has a no trade clause and may not want to be traded to the dumpster fire in Houston

He won't give up the last two years of that contract. He'll waive that clause and get paid by the Texans.

What guarantee does he have that the Texas would pay him the last two years? Surely for waiving his no trade he'd expect the final two years to be fully guaranteed.

It'd have to be agreed upon between Jimmy and the Texans.

Sure...the agreement wouldn't be a handshake. It would be a contract change. Garoppolo would bear ALL the risk in that relationship. Why would he opt-in? Makes zero sense for him.

Even if he's cut (he won't be) he'd still get to choose an org that's best for him. He'd always get paid very well on a short term deal.

No way he'd get paid $25M+, on the open market.
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

That's a good point, but there are three other points to consider: 1) Watson has a no-trade clause, 2) Miami may not be ready to give up on Tua, and 3) Caserio has a connection with Jimmy.

Those factors change the calculus at least a little bit.

Can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Jimmy has a no trade clause and may not want to be traded to the dumpster fire in Houston

He won't give up the last two years of that contract. He'll waive that clause and get paid by the Texans.

What guarantee does he have that the Texas would pay him the last two years? Surely for waiving his no trade he'd expect the final two years to be fully guaranteed.

It'd have to be agreed upon between Jimmy and the Texans.

Sure...the agreement wouldn't be a handshake. It would be a contract change. Garoppolo would bear ALL the risk in that relationship. Why would he opt-in? Makes zero sense for him.

Even if he's cut (he won't be) he'd still get to choose an org that's best for him. He'd always get paid very well on a short term deal.

No way he'd get paid $25M+, on the open market.

Maybe not. But he'd get to pick his team AND he could construct a contract that reduces his risk.

I realize this website has pretended that Garoppolo is some XFL QB. But he would start on most teams in this league. He will have significant demand.

...Patriots come to mind...
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by BYisGod:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Agreed. It is something the FO of the Texans may decide they don't want to deal with and choose to ship Watson to the NFC. But they can use the Dolphins the leverage a better trade

Miami's two first rounders this year+Tua is a better package than anyone else can offer and its not even close.

That's a good point, but there are three other points to consider: 1) Watson has a no-trade clause, 2) Miami may not be ready to give up on Tua, and 3) Caserio has a connection with Jimmy.

Those factors change the calculus at least a little bit.

Can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Jimmy has a no trade clause and may not want to be traded to the dumpster fire in Houston

He won't give up the last two years of that contract. He'll waive that clause and get paid by the Texans.

What guarantee does he have that the Texas would pay him the last two years? Surely for waiving his no trade he'd expect the final two years to be fully guaranteed.

It'd have to be agreed upon between Jimmy and the Texans.

Sure...the agreement wouldn't be a handshake. It would be a contract change. Garoppolo would bear ALL the risk in that relationship. Why would he opt-in? Makes zero sense for him.

Even if he's cut (he won't be) he'd still get to choose an org that's best for him. He'd always get paid very well on a short term deal.

No way he'd get paid $25M+, on the open market.

he's already made $85M. he would definitely take a $20M offer to play where he wants.
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