Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
LOL yeah no go watch him have to air mail it off the top of the football ceiling because he HAS to put so much air under it to get it there...Fields/Wilson/Lance throw ropes. His arm talent isn't in the same league as the others....he walks into the NFL with bottom half of the league arm talent.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
You mean like Josh Allen/Mahomes/Rogers 
Good strong arms are good for an NFL QB, no doubt about it, but I go back to the Bears playoff game in '84, when Joe sliced through a dominant bears defense to pretty much blow them out of the water vs a strong armed Jim McMahon. Arm strength is a bit overrated by fans in my opinion.
Who cares about 37 years ago? The QBs playing now are completely different overall then the QBs playing back then...the game is different, the rules are different, the kids that are learning to play the position with all these QB camps are NOW elite level athletes along with great football minds. The players you are playing now are bigger/faster/stronger. Coaches are actually playing to these new age QBs strengths.
Arm talent matters...Mac simply doesn't have it compared to the rest of the NFL QBs. His reluctance to throw to the outermost receiver in trips (outside the wide side in college). You can see when he gets off his base and tries to make a throw the velocity isn't there...He HAS to step into this throws to get whatever velocity he has. He has to reset his feet and you can't do that all the time... You are NOT gonna be able to just sit back in the pocket and pick apart a secondary every week. These isn't a QB throwing competition tossing the ball in nets.
End of the day you have 2 other QBs that are stupid smart, play mostly from within the pocket and have other attributes that Mac simply doesn't have in his tool belt. His margin for error is very small.
That's just your opinion. I respect it. But I disagree with it.
I think Mac has a good strong (not the strongest by any means) arm and will be fine in the NFL. Arm talent doesn't matter as much as intangibles for a QB in the NFL. His pocket movement and feet are good enough to be able to have good accuracy at all levels of the field and all areas.
I trust Chris Simms and Kurt Warners evaluations more than a lot of armature fans opinions, including mine. And they both say Mac is a first round talent. That's what Kyle needs. A QB that he can be confident in and work with. That's not to say Fields and Lance can't play in Kyles scheme, of course they can and also be good QBs for Kyle too.
Fat Andy's always liked athletic QBs, and took him a decade or more for him to win with an atheltic QB. He couldn't do it with McNabb. He finally did it with Mahomes. Kyles always liked pocket QBs, we'll see if he's changed colors, everything though says no. I'm personally fine with it, because if you surround a good QB with a good players he'll win super bowls (mobile or immobile).
