Mitch Wishnowsky - Punter (Utah) is a Free Agent

In his "interview" in locker room, he mentioned his end over end punt. Do any Oz home boys know if that can come out like a K.O and run along the ground and then take a surprise bounce over the punt returner's head?

Paired with his "Knuckler" that would be a leathal weapon.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

In his "interview" in locker room, he mentioned his end over end punt. Do any Oz home boys know if that can come out like a K.O and run along the ground and then take a surprise bounce over the punt returner's head?

Paired with his "Knuckler" that would be a leathal weapon.

Yeah, definitely but obviously it would need to be a much flatter kick to get the ball to run.

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Hey Dingo good to see you still around. You should start up and Aussie Rules thread in "Other Sports" if there isn't one already.

Good to see you guys are still here post hayne. I check out the rugby thread from time to time and walk away confused as hell.

Originally posted by frozen49er:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Hey Dingo good to see you still around. You should start up and Aussie Rules thread in "Other Sports" if there isn't one already.

Good to see you guys are still here post hayne. I check out the rugby thread from time to time and walk away confused as hell.

Haha, we're not flaky b*****ds like him!

A few showed a little interest in RL when Hayne was around. The discussion in that thread is pretty narrow, between only a few guys and revolves around only a couple of teams so definitely wouldn't make much sense.

Originally posted by frozen49er:
Good to see you guys are still here post hayne. I check out the rugby thread from time to time and walk away confused as hell.

Good. That's the way we like it

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
In his "interview" in locker room, he mentioned his end over end punt. Do any Oz home boys know if that can come out like a K.O and run along the ground and then take a surprise bounce over the punt returner's head?

Paired with his "Knuckler" that would be a leathal weapon.

This one

That's kind of what i imagined, Goatie, but I am pretty sure you cannot punt the ball once past the line of scrimmage. (LOS). However, if running laterally behind the LOS and WISH can kick a 'grubber" while running horizontal to LOS, then that kick has all kinds of potential. The ball is slightly different, and i;m not sure how a football bounces compared to an Oz football, but they are essentially the same shape. Man would a kick like that ever surprise the hell out of the PR, and i wonder if he would even take a chance at fielding it. He sure wouldn't have any idea where it was going to bounce next. Man i see all sorts of applications for the grabber. Also will find out if ball an be Kicked from beyond the LOS.

And then pair the grubber with the "knuckler" and the kicking game alone could bring fans to the game. I sure know i'd Love to see them both up close and personal.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
That's kind of what i imagined, Goatie, but I am pretty sure you cannot punt the ball once past the line of scrimmage. (LOS). However, if running laterally behind the LOS and WISH can kick a 'grubber" while running horizontal to LOS, then that kick has all kinds of potential. The ball is slightly different, and i;m not sure how a football bounces compared to an Oz football, but they are essentially the same shape. Man would a kick like that ever surprise the hell out of the PR, and i wonder if he would even take a chance at fielding it. He sure wouldn't have any idea where it was going to bounce next. Man i see all sorts of applications for the grabber. Also will find out if ball an be Kicked from beyond the LOS.

And then pair the grubber with the "knuckler" and the kicking game alone could bring fans to the game. I sure know i'd Love to see them both up close and personal.

Yes I can see potential there.

Tell me in regard to the rules on punting, is there a rule to allow the punting team to regain possession of the ball after the punt and start with a first down further up the field where they regain possession.

For example if a punt returner fumbles it or it bounces off him can anyone in the punting team recover it and start from first down? Or does possession always go to the receiving team no matter how they muff it?

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
The ball is slightly different, and i;m not sure how a football bounces compared to an Oz football

Rugby Union and Rugby League balls are bigger. You cannot get your hand around them like a quarter back can in NFL to throw them very well unless you are a giant around 8 feet tall. We used to try and play back yard American football in our teens with a rugby ball but the forward passing wasn't that flash.

It would be interesting to see if there were any difference in the bounce.

A potential fake could be a field goal attempt with Wishnowsky receiving from the scrimmage and Gould lining up to kick the field goal but Wishnowsky punting a grubber instead. But not sure if the rules would allow it

If Gould does not touch the ball with his foot its not a kick and can be punted

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

That's kind of what i imagined, Goatie, but I am pretty sure you cannot punt the ball once past the line of scrimmage. (LOS). However, if running laterally behind the LOS and WISH can kick a 'grubber" while running horizontal to LOS, then that kick has all kinds of potential. The ball is slightly different, and i;m not sure how a football bounces compared to an Oz football, but they are essentially the same shape. Man would a kick like that ever surprise the hell out of the PR, and i wonder if he would even take a chance at fielding it. He sure wouldn't have any idea where it was going to bounce next. Man i see all sorts of applications for the grabber. Also will find out if ball an be Kicked from beyond the LOS.

And then pair the grubber with the "knuckler" and the kicking game alone could bring fans to the game. I sure know i'd Love to see them both up close and personal.

Yes I can see potential there.

Tell me in regard to the rules on punting, is there a rule to allow the punting team to regain possession of the ball after the punt and start with a first down further up the field where they regain possession.

For example if a punt returner fumbles it or it bounces off him can anyone in the punting team recover it and start from first down? Or does possession always go to the receiving team no matter how they muff it?

If a punt returner, or any other person on his team touches the ball once kicked, and it is fumbled or dropped, it is a loose ball and the punting team can recover it . If that happens and the guy who recovers it is not tackled, yes he can run the ball into the EZ for a TD. If he just recovers the ball and falls on it then we get another set of downs. Interestingly, (altho i have never seen it), say two guys are down covering the punt , which is fumbled, and one of our guys picks it up, then if the other 49er is there and behind him he can lateral to his teammate if he is about to be tackled. And that is somewhat like Oz football on an every play basis.. There are lots of similarities, altho i am unfamiliar with Oz football rules.

One of the most exciting player on our roster is the punter. That's usually a bad thing to say about your thing but that team is build to dominate in all three phases of the game.

Originally posted by Mayor:

One of the most exciting player on our roster is the punter. That's usually a bad thing to say about your thing but that team is build to dominate in all three phases of the game.

We'll see about kicker and returner. But hope so.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
That's kind of what i imagined, Goatie, but I am pretty sure you cannot punt the ball once past the line of scrimmage. (LOS). However, if running laterally behind the LOS and WISH can kick a 'grubber" while running horizontal to LOS, then that kick has all kinds of potential. The ball is slightly different, and i;m not sure how a football bounces compared to an Oz football, but they are essentially the same shape. Man would a kick like that ever surprise the hell out of the PR, and i wonder if he would even take a chance at fielding it. He sure wouldn't have any idea where it was going to bounce next. Man i see all sorts of applications for the grabber. Also will find out if ball an be Kicked from beyond the LOS.

And then pair the grubber with the "knuckler" and the kicking game alone could bring fans to the game. I sure know i'd Love to see them both up close and personal.

Yes I can see potential there.

Tell me in regard to the rules on punting, is there a rule to allow the punting team to regain possession of the ball after the punt and start with a first down further up the field where they regain possession.

For example if a punt returner fumbles it or it bounces off him can anyone in the punting team recover it and start from first down? Or does possession always go to the receiving team no matter how they muff it?

If a punt returner, or any other person on his team touches the ball once kicked, and it is fumbled or dropped, it is a loose ball and the punting team can recover it . If that happens and the guy who recovers it is not tackled, yes he can run the ball into the EZ for a TD. If he just recovers the ball and falls on it then we get another set of downs. Interestingly, (altho i have never seen it), say two guys are down covering the punt , which is fumbled, and one of our guys picks it up, then if the other 49er is there and behind him he can lateral to his teammate if he is about to be tackled. And that is somewhat like Oz football on an every play basis.. There are lots of similarities, altho i am unfamiliar with Oz football rules.

Well that opens huge potential under the rules. Imagine a fake field goal attempt with 20 seconds to go, a grubber kick, a fumble, a recover and a TD... All is possible.