Dee Ford, DE

Let AA walk unless he takes a paycut. Let Taylor, thomas, street, volaga, and givens duke it out for his spot. Use the money to pay others or possibly trade for obj.

Originally posted by okdkid:
Wow. This is the first I've heard of offseason surgery being a real possibility for Ford's tendonosis. It's rare that surgery is necessary for tendonosis. Feels like a last resort move to promote collagen production. Though, it won't harm him longterm either.

To be clear -- this wouldn't be considered a major surgery (like an ACL reconstruction). And it will have roughly the same recovery timeline that he is headed for this offseason anyways (if he went the PT & PRP route, which is more typical).

https://theathletic.com/1353187/2019/11/06/49ers-mailbag-are-they-content-with-dee-ford-as-a-part-time-player-which-players-on-ir-will-be-back/

As you note, the question is whether that's enough to justify the $16.1 million cap hit — second only to Jimmy Garoppolo's on the 49ers — he'll have next season. Ford has hinted that he might have offseason surgery to take care of his chronic knee issue. But given the previous mailbag question — is Armstead going to be re-signed? — it brings up an interesting conundrum: Who is more valuable to the team, Armstead or Ford?

What did the article say about Hurd and Taylor?

Paraphrase, yae or nay is fine. :)

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

No need to let AA walk, we can afford to keep him along with Dee.

Good point, but I'd like a little cap space to accelerate/front load some of our star players like Kittle and Buckner. AA is possibly replaceable by Street or some of the other young players we have on our team. And they have done very well in the later rounds - finding good interior DT's and athletic gap penetrators.

Having said that, I hope we can keep everybody that we need to keep, possibly even including AA.

Agree, you let AA walk. He should hopefully generate a solid comp pick for us. We have the current depth to replace him. This is a Pats move.

Originally posted by Bimbo_Coles:

Agree, you let AA walk. He should hopefully generate a solid comp pick for us. We have the current depth to replace him. This is a Pats move.

We have a historic D line and you want to lose a key element for a draft pick? Okay...

Originally posted by dngt49:

Let AA walk unless he takes a paycut. Let Taylor, thomas, street, volaga, and givens duke it out for his spot. Use the money to pay others or possibly trade for obj.

Enough with OBJ. Lmao

Uh I hope we don't let AA walk unless it's because someone gave him an insane contract

Originally posted by danarez49:

Originally posted by dngt49:

Let AA walk unless he takes a paycut. Let Taylor, thomas, street, volaga, and givens duke it out for his spot. Use the money to pay others or possibly trade for obj.

Enough with OBJ. Lmao

Haha no :). I can imagine 17 and 13 lining up wide. With kittle and deebo supplementing them. And topping it off with a little dose of Hurd and Taylor 😱

Don't let AA walk. He likes it here so keep him. The deals we do we can let him walk a couple years into his deal if need be but right now he's too important to the way we're playing defense. This front is making the game simpler for the 7 guys playing behind them. They're transformative together and we've invested a few years developing the guy from a raw project

AB keeps saying we can afford everyone. Even put out an article yesterday talking about it. AB is awesome, Paarage (spelling?) is a master, I honestly have no doubts we keep our core together for a while. This is the beginning

I don't think a lot of people realize how valuable he has been even just playing 60% off the defensive snaps. His presence, his big sacks on 3rd Downs. He's been everything I think we could hope for and he seems to be getting healthier & quicker

Dee Ford should have a big game come Monday if they double team little bear.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
No need to let AA walk, we can afford to keep him along with Dee.

Good point, but I'd like a little cap space to accelerate/front load some of our star players like Kittle and Buckner. AA is possibly replaceable by Street or some of the other young players we have on our team. And they have done very well in the later rounds - finding good interior DT's and athletic gap penetrators.

Having said that, I hope we can keep everybody that we need to keep, possibly even including AA.

They can afford all these guys (including Sanders if it's a reasonable contract) buy restructuring Jimmy G (if we think he's the LT guy) and by giving some extensions to Juice/Tarrt (which could lower the cap in 2020).

AB did a whole article explaining the many ways to make it work.

AA is playing at a pro-bowl level, our DL is the bread and butter of this team overall. Street hasn't played any meaningful football in two yrs. Taylor I like, but he's not at the level of AA.

I also don't see SF giving Thomas the 5th yr option. He's more than likely gone after his rookie contract.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

No need to let AA walk, we can afford to keep him along with Dee.

Good point, but I'd like a little cap space to accelerate/front load some of our star players like Kittle and Buckner. AA is possibly replaceable by Street or some of the other young players we have on our team. And they have done very well in the later rounds - finding good interior DT's and athletic gap penetrators.

Having said that, I hope we can keep everybody that we need to keep, possibly even including AA.

They can afford all these guys (including Sanders if it's a reasonable contract) buy restructuring Jimmy G (if we think he's the LT guy) and by giving some extensions to Juice/Tarrt (which could lower the cap in 2020).

AB did a whole article explaining the many ways to make it work.

AA is playing at a pro-bowl level, our DL is the bread and butter of this team overall. Street hasn't played any meaningful football in two yrs. Taylor I like, but he's not at the level of AA.

I also don't see SF giving Thomas the 5th yr option. He's more than likely gone after his rookie contract.

I read it. AB is a cap stud. However, he relies on back loading a lot of the deals into the future. I just think that's a recipie for a future cap hell. How the patriots have maintained a super bowl team and still not go though cap hell is amazing. But generally, I think how they have done it is letting go some of their star players, and constantly finding new talent, which is under priced, as compared to players comming into thier 2nd and third contracts which will be priced above the market.

Just some thoughts in the matter, I really haven't thought about it as thoroughly as AB - so it's by no means my final conclusion.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

No need to let AA walk, we can afford to keep him along with Dee.

Good point, but I'd like a little cap space to accelerate/front load some of our star players like Kittle and Buckner. AA is possibly replaceable by Street or some of the other young players we have on our team. And they have done very well in the later rounds - finding good interior DT's and athletic gap penetrators.

Having said that, I hope we can keep everybody that we need to keep, possibly even including AA.

They can afford all these guys (including Sanders if it's a reasonable contract) buy restructuring Jimmy G (if we think he's the LT guy) and by giving some extensions to Juice/Tarrt (which could lower the cap in 2020).

AB did a whole article explaining the many ways to make it work.

AA is playing at a pro-bowl level, our DL is the bread and butter of this team overall. Street hasn't played any meaningful football in two yrs. Taylor I like, but he's not at the level of AA.

I also don't see SF giving Thomas the 5th yr option. He's more than likely gone after his rookie contract.

For reference.