Chicago Bears vs. San Francisco 49ers Rebuilding Plan | Page 17

NCommand · 2018-11-16T18:45:15-08:00

Given that the Bears started rebuilding the same time we did (2017), I thought this would be a fun topic to track over the years. ShanaLynch seem poised to "build their way out of this through the draft." I'm much more partial to the Bears plan (balance of draft + younger free agents) per my annual off season plans (for us). Chicago Bears: So on offense, they drafted 10 players and added 6 free agents. On defense, they drafted 9 and added 5 free agents. 16 'starters' were added on offense and defense in 2017 & 2018. Their average age 25.6 puts them as one of the 10th youngest teams currently. They only have two players making over $9.6M (Robinson & Mack). They currently have $19.3M in cap space before the expected $10M+ increase. Currently, their collective defense, at a 77.5 average PFF grade, is outstanding (Fangio + Donatell). Their offense, is naturally, behind them but rising each week (Nagy). Year 2 of the rebuild: Current record: 7-3 / 1st Place Projected record: 10-6 / Playoffs / 1st Place Division Playoff prediction: 1 playoff win -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's hard to compare strategies given our perpetual injuries (had to add more 'starters') esp. with the loss of Jimmy Garoppolo but here is your snapshot in time: San Francisco 49ers: So on offense, they drafted 10 players and added 8 free agents. On defense, they drafted 9 and added 4 free agents. 33 'starters' were added on offense and defense in 2017 & 2018. Their average age 25.9 puts them as one of the 10th youngest teams currently. They only have one player making over $10M (Staley). They currently have a projected carryover cap total of $65,419,090 for 2019. Currently, the collective defense, at a 58.2 average PFF grade, is very poor. Their offense at 71.1 is above average. Year 2 of the rebuild: Current record: 2-8 / Last Place Projected record: 3-13 / #1 Draft Pick / Last Place Division Playoff prediction: None

Dec 13, 2018 at 8:59 PM

#241

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Freezing temperatures stop the best offenses, especially sunny California teams.

Didn't stop the 88 49ers

Bewm!

"The finesse-a$$ 49ers..."

Dec 14, 2018 at 2:45 AM

#242

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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Freezing temperatures stop the best offenses, especially sunny California teams.

Didn't stop the 88 49ers

Nothing could stop the 88 49ers.

Dec 19, 2018 at 8:17 AM

#243

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Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Before they went after more studs, they were a top defense - that we beat I might add last season. They turned a corner when they added more this year - like we did when we added Whitner, Rogers, and drafted Aldon. We went from good to great.

Yup that's true...they were hitting on all cylinders with that D last night.

So they won the division, huh? Good for them. It's fun to go back and read the initial comments.

[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 19, 2018 at 8:18 AM ]

Dec 19, 2018 at 8:24 AM

#244

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Originally posted by SteveYoung:
Mack maybe but I'd still rather keep out 1st round picks.

Robinson is average. He is averaging 57 YPC which translates to 955 yards over 16. That is not worth 10 mil a year.

I miss SteveYoung!

Dec 19, 2018 at 10:43 PM

#245

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Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Freezing temperatures stop the best offenses, especially sunny California teams.

Didn't stop the 88 49ers

Nothing could stop the 88 49ers.

Didn't stop Kap either.

Jan 6, 2019 at 3:08 PM

#246

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Well, I haven't heard anything about Trubisky. Just a horrible qb like I said. Glad the bears have him we don't have to worry about the bears as long as he's qb. Just wondering what all the supporters are saying now because a lot of people were arguing that he is a solid or good quarterback.

With Jimmy Garoppolo we are a better team than the Bears in my opinion. Even if we have holes we can still beat them as we already saw with mullens

[ Edited by elguapo on Jan 6, 2019 at 3:17 PM ]

Jan 6, 2019 at 3:53 PM

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Originally posted by elguapo:
Well, I haven't heard anything about Trubisky. Just a horrible qb like I said. Glad the bears have him we don't have to worry about the bears as long as he's qb. Just wondering what all the supporters are saying now because a lot of people were arguing that he is a solid or good quarterback.

With Jimmy Garoppolo we are a better team than the Bears in my opinion. Even if we have holes we can still beat them as we already saw with mullens

He's incredibly streaky to me. Capable of throwing for 300+ but overall, he looks like a young QB. Like Lamar Jackson. There's a reason Nagy has him at 25th in passing attempts. Not much reason to pass a ton with a defense like that and a good running game and TE/RB's who can catch. You can see flashes but the playoffs highlight weaknesses. Seattle, Ravens, Bears.

Jan 6, 2019 at 3:57 PM

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Still, they did better than I projected.

Year 2 of the rebuild:
Projected record: 10-6 / Playoffs / 2nd Place Division
Playoff prediction: 1 playoff win

[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 6, 2019 at 3:57 PM ]

Jan 6, 2019 at 4:00 PM

#249

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Well, I haven't heard anything about Trubisky. Just a horrible qb like I said. Glad the bears have him we don't have to worry about the bears as long as he's qb. Just wondering what all the supporters are saying now because a lot of people were arguing that he is a solid or good quarterback.

With Jimmy Garoppolo we are a better team than the Bears in my opinion. Even if we have holes we can still beat them as we already saw with mullens

He's incredibly streaky to me. Capable of throwing for 300+ but overall, he looks like a young QB. Like Lamar Jackson. There's a reason Nagy has him at 25th in passing attempts. Not much reason to pass a ton with a defense like that and a good running game and TE/RB's who can catch. You can see flashes but the playoffs highlight weaknesses. Seattle, Ravens, Bears.

Yeah I understand with Lamar Jackson but Trubisky is just not accurate. You can't really fix that imo.

Jan 6, 2019 at 4:49 PM

#250

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Maybe they should try rebuilding with a better kicker. Like the guy they cut.

Jan 6, 2019 at 4:51 PM

#251

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Maybe they should try rebuilding with a better kicker. Like the guy they cut.

Ha ha ha! I literally was coming in here to write that!

Jan 6, 2019 at 4:53 PM

#252

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Still, they did better than I projected.

Year 2 of the rebuild:
Projected record: 10-6 / Playoffs / 2nd Place Division
Playoff prediction: 1 playoff win

Zero playoff wins though.

Jan 6, 2019 at 4:57 PM

#253

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Still, they did better than I projected.

Year 2 of the rebuild:
Projected record: 10-6 / Playoffs / 2nd Place Division
Playoff prediction: 1 playoff win

Zero playoff wins though.

Still miles better than the 9ers. LOL.

Jan 6, 2019 at 5:03 PM

#254

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Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Still, they did better than I projected.

Year 2 of the rebuild:
Projected record: 10-6 / Playoffs / 2nd Place Division
Playoff prediction: 1 playoff win

Zero playoff wins though.

Still miles better than the 9ers. LOL.

No lol

Jan 6, 2019 at 5:03 PM

#255

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Originally posted by Rascal:
Still miles better than the 9ers. LOL.

And yet in the record books they'll go down as having won an equal number of playoff games.