WR Dante "Do something...anything" Pettis

What is going on with this kid?

Originally posted by NCommand:
JG talking about Deebo and Pettis at the end.



Translation: even after a full off season, it's (chemistry) "different" with him. Not there yet in terms of getting on the same page. Therefore, Kyle went with Deebo at X to start the year instead of Pettis. Simple concept. Go with the players JG has the most chemistry to start the season.

It just seems odd that Pettis barely made the field when the receivers that started and or got the majority of the snaps were not performing. Do you not make in game and or halftime changes based on performance and match ups. For Shanahan to suggest the he did not notice Pettis snap count or the fact that he was never really on the field is false. There is some else going on in the background regarding Pettis. He is a second round pick that showed some promise last year. Regardless of his training camp, we should have seen him on field more than 2 snaps in the opener.

I kinda of get the whole chemistry argument but Deedo is a rookie. I would suggest that chemistry takes more time than a training camp and a few snaps in preseason.

Originally posted by Youngone:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by Youngone:

Is this dude dealing with injuries or is that just b******t?

He's in the Shanahan doghouse. Expect him to get the Solomon Thomas treatment. Maybe 10 snaps on Sunday.

The Shanahan Doghouse is real. Joshua Garnett never got out of it. Cut. Let's hope Pettis doesn't go that same path.

Pettis was our best receiver last year, honestly. Garnett was never the best at anything except being hurt and never seeing the field. I think you guys are reading way too much into his playing time against Tampa.

1) He battled through an injury and Shanahan initially pointed to wanting to be careful with that.
2) With that injury, he also didn't practice as much, which can often impact PT.
3) Shanahan himself admitted he should've played more.

I look at the evidence and see no cause for concern yet. My guess is it was a combination of all the above factors, plus the desire to get Deebo worked into the game plan. I think Shanny had an idea that didn't go totally according to plan, and he admitted this as well, that he didn't manage or call this game particularly well.

I think Shanahan honestly regrets not playing Pettis more in that game. Why? Because Pettis likely would've helped the offense move the ball better against the coverages Tampa was using. They were playing right into Pettis' strength, while our other WRs weren't getting much separation.

How does a guy only get two snaps though? That's crazy, how can that be an accident?

NC added another layer with the chemistry thing. Which plays into my point about Shanny's plan with Deebo -- he thought they had better chemistry and expected that they'd perform better than that. Didn't quite workout that way. While Pettis may not have the best chemistry with Jimmy on the shorter routes, there are plenty of other plays he could been packaged into, and that's probably where Kyle's regret not using Pettis more comes into play.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

It just seems odd that Pettis barely made the field when the receivers that started and or got the majority of the snaps were not performing. Do you not make in game and or halftime changes based on performance and match ups. For Shanahan to suggest the he did not notice Pettis snap count or the fact that he was never really on the field is false. There is some else going on in the background regarding Pettis. He is a second round pick that showed some promise last year. Regardless of his training camp, we should have seen him on field more than 2 snaps in the opener.

I kinda of get the whole chemistry argument but Deedo is a rookie. I would suggest that chemistry takes more time than a training camp and a few snaps in preseason.

One could make the dog house argument but I think most of it is he and JG don't have chemistry and clearly are not in sync. We saw it in practice. We saw it in pre season games. One miscommunication in a game and that's a pick-6 going the other way. And I think Kyle badly wants Deebo to be his feature X receiver. This is why Kyle said at the end of pre season, Pettis was still working on carving out a role on this team.

He lost the return job to James and the X to Deebo.

So........2 snaps and not featured in the game plan in week 1.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
It just seems odd that Pettis barely made the field when the receivers that started and or got the majority of the snaps were not performing. Do you not make in game and or halftime changes based on performance and match ups. For Shanahan to suggest the he did not notice Pettis snap count or the fact that he was never really on the field is false. There is some else going on in the background regarding Pettis. He is a second round pick that showed some promise last year. Regardless of his training camp, we should have seen him on field more than 2 snaps in the opener.

I kinda of get the whole chemistry argument but Deedo is a rookie. I would suggest that chemistry takes more time than a training camp and a few snaps in preseason.

I think what made Pettis good in college makes the adjustment to Shanahan's offence difficult. Pettis had a guy by the name of Browne throwing (floating/arm punting) the ball to him. So, running the most precise rout wasn't necessarily the needed skill; it was the adjustments to a pass that had the ball hanging in the air for a couple of minutes to make it 20 yards down field.

Pettis would excel with Wilson as Wilson backyards it and tends to just float it to the spot on the field only his receiver (after the rout) can run under it. JG does NOT do this and requires his targets to actually be at the spot he wants to throw it AFTER the ball leaves his hands. That requires more detail to rout timing and less emphasis on improvisation.

Originally posted by NCommand:
One could make the dog house argument but I think most of it is he and JG don't have chemistry and clearly are not in sync. We saw it in practice. We saw it in pre season games. One miscommunication in a game and that's a pick-6 going the other way. And I think Kyle badly wants Deebo to be his feature X receiver. This is why Kyle said at the end of pre season, Pettis was still working on carving out a role on this team.

He lost the return job to James and the X to Deebo.

So........2 snaps and not featured in the game plan in week 1.

i understand it takes two to dance but to develop chemistry. maybe pettis should put forth more than an effort.. the cute nicknames and the kitty stuff is funny but when you set there not playing. not producing. for WHATEVER reason.. those nicknames are not so funny anymore. again there was a reason why kyle brought in a couple new guys. to light a fire under the most underachieving group of wide outs in the nfl last year.... it would appear with some guys like james it worked. with pettis and goodwin. who knows. pettis needs to look at himself in the mirror. i think he will further slide when our rookie and taylor gets back. the way pettis is going and hell, maybe goodwin to. i would not mind if they dumped either and brought back mathews. and i could care less about the so called speed they bring. if they do not produce or hell. do not play.. what good is their amazing take the top off speed

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

It just seems odd that Pettis barely made the field when the receivers that started and or got the majority of the snaps were not performing. Do you not make in game and or halftime changes based on performance and match ups. For Shanahan to suggest the he did not notice Pettis snap count or the fact that he was never really on the field is false. There is some else going on in the background regarding Pettis. He is a second round pick that showed some promise last year. Regardless of his training camp, we should have seen him on field more than 2 snaps in the opener.

I kinda of get the whole chemistry argument but Deedo is a rookie. I would suggest that chemistry takes more time than a training camp and a few snaps in preseason.

One could make the dog house argument but I think most of it is he and JG don't have chemistry and clearly are not in sync. We saw it in practice. We saw it in pre season games. One miscommunication in a game and that's a pick-6 going the other way. And I think Kyle badly wants Deebo to be his feature X receiver. This is why Kyle said at the end of pre season, Pettis was still working on carving out a role on this team.

He lost the return job to James and the X to Deebo.

So........2 snaps and not featured in the game plan in week 1.

I think with everyone healthy, Pettis should be the Z over Goodwin. But again, the only reason Goodwin is starting over him is the speed and chemistry with Jimmy. It's frustrating because Pettis is clearly the more talented player. If they ever got in sync, this offense would become monstrous. Based on talent alone, everyone healthy, my guys are:

X: Deebo/Bourne
Y: Taylor/James
Z: Pettis/Goodwin
F: Hurd

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I think with everyone healthy, Pettis should be the Z over Goodwin. But again, the only reason Goodwin is starting over him is the speed and chemistry with Jimmy. It's frustrating because Pettis is clearly the more talented player. If they ever got in sync, this offense would become monstrous. Based on talent alone, everyone healthy, my guys are:

X: Deebo/Bourne
Y: Taylor/James
Z: Pettis/Goodwin
F: Hurd

both he and goodwin drive me crazy.lol

Originally posted by NCommand:
One could make the dog house argument but I think most of it is he and JG don't have chemistry and clearly are not in sync. We saw it in practice. We saw it in pre season games. One miscommunication in a game and that's a pick-6 going the other way. And I think Kyle badly wants Deebo to be his feature X receiver. This is why Kyle said at the end of pre season, Pettis was still working on carving out a role on this team.

He lost the return job to James and the X to Deebo.

So........2 snaps and not featured in the game plan in week 1.

Not buying that lack of chemistry point of view. Lack of chemistry to the point of not playing seems a stretch. Not all QB and WR teammates have chemistry, they are coached to be on the same page in regards to the playbook. You can't say that JG has chemistry with all other WRs that played on Sunday.

My guess is that they were all more prepared throughout training camp in regards to the playbook and showing up focused everyday. The 49ers have invested a 2nd round pick in Pettis whom was touted as a WR that can play all WR positions and return kicks, compound that with the fact that we were missing 2 WRs to injury tells me that Pettis is in the doghouse for some reason, probably lack of preparation. If I were to tell you pre-training camp that Pettis would have 2 snaps in the game opener you would probably not believe me. He has had more snaps in practice and games than Deebo if you consider 2018 which should contribute to a greater chemistry.

Just admit it, he's a bust. We could've drafted Michael Gallup who's looking like the real deal in Dallas.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Just admit it, he's a bust. We could've drafted Michael Gallup who's looking like the real deal in Dallas.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Just admit it, he's a bust. We could've drafted Michael Gallup who's looking like the real deal in Dallas.

Never big on hindsight. Little early for the bust word.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Just admit it, he's a bust. We could've drafted Michael Gallup who's looking like the real deal in Dallas.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Just admit it, he's a bust. We could've drafted Michael Gallup who's looking like the real deal in Dallas.

if hes still in the doghouse for another 6-8 weeks, then yeah. I'm going with the "B" word on this one.

Serious question...

What do you call a second round draft choice, now in his second year, and still sitting on the bench?!