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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
normally, I'd agree. You should put him on kickoff returns and punts because of his collegiate career. But eh. He's too soft. Gunners on special teams are gonna eat him up for lunch and injure him again.

Maybe once he bulks up his frame and can take some hits, I'd be comfortable putting him back there.

Ah yes I forgot about how much bigger Antonio Brown, DeSean Jackson, Tyreek Hill and Tyler Lockett is than Pettis.

It's not the size of the dog.
Look at Ward, broken bones every year. Some guys just break more easier then others.
Originally posted by 49erphan:
I'm with the "not worth the risk" crowd about Pettis doing returns during the regular season, but come playoff time (hope, hope, hope) then I'd cut him loose because there won't be a next game if they don't win. Of course, using him to do returns during the season may make it more likely that they'll make it to the post-season, so...

This is a tough call. If he gets put out for the year on a return then it will become obvious that they shouldn't have done it. But then, if they have him do returns, he could very well add enough boost that the team wins an extra game or two and the "let him loose" crowd can pat themselves on the back for being right. But I just tilt toward caution with Pettis. I don't think he's soft, but he doesn't have a robust NFL level build and hasn't fashioned himself to be a physical WR so I think he will be somewhat more prone to injury on returns than even some other receiver-returners that are similar in size. That said, if they decide to turn him loose on returns, I'll be excited to see what he can do.

Seems like a very reasonable take to me. Well said.
Good dude. You can make your donations to #InsideTheNumbers

[ Edited by NCommand on May 24, 2019 at 7:28 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Good dude. You can make your donations to #InsideTheNumbers


OK, I have to derail this train before it gets started. Pettis' favorite charity does not benefit homeless felines.

Or felines addicted to catnip.
[ Edited by RTFirefly on May 24, 2019 at 7:58 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Good dude. You can make your donations to #InsideTheNumbers


So wait a second Grant Cohn says his "weakness" is press coverage outside the numbers and all of a sudden we are saying this f**king matters one bit

Strengths: "Beating press inside"
Weakness: "Beating press outside"

I made it through 2 plays of his breakdown. Of course it's 2 catches made outside the numbers. It literally means nothing where he started. Kinda seems like good play design. There is nothing mystical about the f**king numbers. If you can beat press inside you can beat it outside.

What silly ass Grant doesn't seem to grasp is lining up out side the numbers inheritly limits what you can do. Moreover, a lot of the time the outer most guy isn't even a part of the the progression. Want an example? Here you go....check about 20:50 of his "breakdown" where he's talking about the play that happened at 5:59. Look at the entire play and the concept envolved. Here are several examples of it from his father playbooks (1994 and 2004):



Please take note that the SE in this case is running a clearing route and is not a part of the progression (ie he's not assigned a number). The corner "didn't take the inside" away.....the X's job was to clear that corner out so the Corner/out by the slot would open if the QB takes it or also is out of there when drive concept develops.

Basically, Grant Cohn is in no positions to assign strengths or weaknesses of anyone. He does not own the X's and O's knowledge to be drumming up these b******t narratives. LMAO at him calling things "bad reps" and "quit on the player because he knows he can't get open". No silly f**k, it's not Dante's fault you don't understand how concepts work and what guys outside the progression are doing.

Damn it's just disheartening that his garbage takes roots in this forum.
[ Edited by Niners816 on May 25, 2019 at 2:01 AM ]
Originally posted by Niners816:
So wait a second Grant Cohn says his "weakness" is press coverage outside the numbers and all of a sudden we are saying this f**king matters one bit

Strengths: "Beating press inside"
Weakness: "Beating press outside"

I made it through 2 plays of his breakdown. Of course it's 2 catches made outside the numbers. It literally means nothing where he started. Kinda seems like good play design. There is nothing mystical about the f**king numbers. If you can beat press inside you can beat it outside.

What silly ass Grant doesn't seem to grasp is lining up out side the numbers inheritly limits what you can do. Moreover, a lot of the time the outer most guy isn't even a part of the the progression. Want an example? Here you go....check about 20:50 of his "breakdown" where he's talking about the play that happened at 5:59. Look at the entire play and the concept envolved. Here are several examples of it from his father playbooks (1994 and 2004):



Please take not that the SE in this case is running a clearing route and is not about of the progression (ie he's not assigned a number). The corner "didn't take the inside" away.....the X's job was to clear that corner out so the Corner/out by the slot would open if the QB takes it or also is out of there when drive concept develops.

Basically, Grant Cohn is in no positions to assign strengths or weaknesses of anyone. He does not own the X's and O's knowledge to be drumming up these b******t narratives. LMAO at him calling things "bad reps" and "quit on the player because he knows he can't get open". No silly f**k, it's not Dante's fault you don't understand how concepts work and what guys outside the progression are doing.

Damn it's just disheartening that his garbage takes roots in this forum.


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Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Good dude. You can make your donations to #InsideTheNumbers


So wait a second Grant Cohn says his "weakness" is press coverage outside the numbers and all of a sudden we are saying this f**king matters one bit

Strengths: "Beating press inside"
Weakness: "Beating press outside"

I made it through 2 plays of his breakdown. Of course it's 2 catches made outside the numbers. It literally means nothing where he started. Kinda seems like good play design. There is nothing mystical about the f**king numbers. If you can beat press inside you can beat it outside.

What silly ass Grant doesn't seem to grasp is lining up out side the numbers inheritly limits what you can do. Moreover, a lot of the time the outer most guy isn't even a part of the the progression. Want an example? Here you go....check about 20:50 of his "breakdown" where he's talking about the play that happened at 5:59. Look at the entire play and the concept envolved. Here are several examples of it from his father playbooks (1994 and 2004):



Please take note that the SE in this case is running a clearing route and is not a part of the progression (ie he's not assigned a number). The corner "didn't take the inside" away.....the X's job was to clear that corner out so the Corner/out by the slot would open if the QB takes it or also is out of there when drive concept develops.

Basically, Grant Cohn is in no positions to assign strengths or weaknesses of anyone. He does not own the X's and O's knowledge to be drumming up these b******t narratives. LMAO at him calling things "bad reps" and "quit on the player because he knows he can't get open". No silly f**k, it's not Dante's fault you don't understand how concepts work and what guys outside the progression are doing.

Damn it's just disheartening that his garbage takes roots in this forum.

This post.....

Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Good dude. You can make your donations to #InsideTheNumbers


So wait a second Grant Cohn says his "weakness" is press coverage outside the numbers and all of a sudden we are saying this f**king matters one bit

Strengths: "Beating press inside"
Weakness: "Beating press outside"

I made it through 2 plays of his breakdown. Of course it's 2 catches made outside the numbers. It literally means nothing where he started. Kinda seems like good play design. There is nothing mystical about the f**king numbers. If you can beat press inside you can beat it outside.

What silly ass Grant doesn't seem to grasp is lining up out side the numbers inheritly limits what you can do. Moreover, a lot of the time the outer most guy isn't even a part of the the progression. Want an example? Here you go....check about 20:50 of his "breakdown" where he's talking about the play that happened at 5:59. Look at the entire play and the concept envolved. Here are several examples of it from his father playbooks (1994 and 2004):



Please take note that the SE in this case is running a clearing route and is not a part of the progression (ie he's not assigned a number). The corner "didn't take the inside" away.....the X's job was to clear that corner out so the Corner/out by the slot would open if the QB takes it or also is out of there when drive concept develops.

Basically, Grant Cohn is in no positions to assign strengths or weaknesses of anyone. He does not own the X's and O's knowledge to be drumming up these b******t narratives. LMAO at him calling things "bad reps" and "quit on the player because he knows he can't get open". No silly f**k, it's not Dante's fault you don't understand how concepts work and what guys outside the progression are doing.

Damn it's just disheartening that his garbage takes roots in this forum.

This post.....


And this post
Everytime I see Niners816 playbook postings, I have this mental image of someone breaking into a coach's office late night with a disposable camera from the 90s to 2000. Like hitting the mother load of porn in the attic.
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Such a great post ^^
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Everytime I see Niners816 playbook postings, I have this mental image of someone breaking into a coach's office late night with a disposable camera from the 90s to 2000. Like hitting the mother load of porn in the attic.

#WCOporn
Woke up this morning and watched, "I survived" on The Animal Planet. 5 year old girl was getting mauled by a panther and on the verge of death, when her two pit bulls literally broke the chains holding them back and savagely went after the panther until it ran away. The two pits then turned around and guarded the little girl until her father came and rushed her to the hospital. They literally saved her life.

Dogs > Cats
Also when did the X become the end-all-be-all for WRs? Greatest football player ever was a Z.
Originally posted by Niners816:
So wait a second Grant Cohn says his "weakness" is press coverage outside the numbers and all of a sudden we are saying this f**king matters one bit

Strengths: "Beating press inside"
Weakness: "Beating press outside"

I made it through 2 plays of his breakdown. Of course it's 2 catches made outside the numbers. It literally means nothing where he started. Kinda seems like good play design. There is nothing mystical about the f**king numbers. If you can beat press inside you can beat it outside.

What silly ass Grant doesn't seem to grasp is lining up out side the numbers inheritly limits what you can do. Moreover, a lot of the time the outer most guy isn't even a part of the the progression. Want an example? Here you go....check about 20:50 of his "breakdown" where he's talking about the play that happened at 5:59. Look at the entire play and the concept envolved. Here are several examples of it from his father playbooks (1994 and 2004):



Please take note that the SE in this case is running a clearing route and is not a part of the progression (ie he's not assigned a number). The corner "didn't take the inside" away.....the X's job was to clear that corner out so the Corner/out by the slot would open if the QB takes it or also is out of there when drive concept develops.

Basically, Grant Cohn is in no positions to assign strengths or weaknesses of anyone. He does not own the X's and O's knowledge to be drumming up these b******t narratives. LMAO at him calling things "bad reps" and "quit on the player because he knows he can't get open". No silly f**k, it's not Dante's fault you don't understand how concepts work and what guys outside the progression are doing.

Damn it's just disheartening that his garbage takes roots in this forum.

LMAO. Only I truly know how much Grant triggers you. And I'm here for it because it always ends up leading to a smarter WZ. He's like the secret sauce to your BigMac. LOL
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