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Sep 27, 2018 at 12:17 PM
- Fanaticofnfl
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The million dollar question is, will he be able to take Joe's place once he retires? If he can then this was 100% the right pick even though I hated it at the time.
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Sep 27, 2018 at 1:09 PM
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:The million dollar question is, will he be able to take Joe's place once he retires? If he can then this was 100% the right pick even though I hated it at the time.
I don't think so. He's the perfect RT in this scheme. We still need a top notch LT IMHO. That said, with pass rushers constantly moving from side to side, there isn't THAT much difference between LT and RT anymore.
Sep 27, 2018 at 1:17 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:The million dollar question is, will he be able to take Joe's place once he retires? If he can then this was 100% the right pick even though I hated it at the time.
I don't think so. He's the perfect RT in this scheme. We still need a top notch LT IMHO. That said, with pass rushers constantly moving from side to side, there isn't THAT much difference between LT and RT anymore.
I think he could handle it, also NC where is this top notch LT coming from? We'd have to be picking pretty high in the draft, or spending huge $ in FA to get one better than McGlinchey should be.
Sep 27, 2018 at 1:21 PM
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:The million dollar question is, will he be able to take Joe's place once he retires? If he can then this was 100% the right pick even though I hated it at the time.
I don't think so. He's the perfect RT in this scheme. We still need a top notch LT IMHO. That said, with pass rushers constantly moving from side to side, there isn't THAT much difference between LT and RT anymore.
I think he could handle it, also NC where is this top notch LT coming from? We'd have to be picking pretty high in the draft, or spending huge $ in FA to get one better than McGlinchey should be.
Well, if you want MM to play LT, then you still need to draft a top notch RT. Either way you'll be spending big on FA $ or high draft capital.
Sep 27, 2018 at 1:22 PM
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Originally posted by WINiner:
I hated this pick when it was made. After only 3 games though the value in the pick has become crystal clear. He is imo at least as good as Brown was in passpro and a significant upgrade in the run game. His personality is a better fit and I love that he and Joe get along so well. It feels like a true mentorship in which Joe is comfortable passing that torch on to McG. We will see, 3 games does not make a career, but it's off to a really good start for the rookie.
Good post!
Sep 27, 2018 at 1:23 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Didn't we use Brown's pick to move up for Pettis?
Moore? I'm hoping he finally gets off the bench himself. I'd love to see him get some snaps this year!
no we used it for Moore...we traded our 2nd and the bears 3rd (74th) I believe to get Pettis
Sep 27, 2018 at 1:24 PM
- Stanley
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
The million dollar question is, will he be able to take Joe's place once he retires? If he can then this was 100% the right pick even though I hated it at the time.
I don't think so. He's the perfect RT in this scheme. We still need a top notch LT IMHO. That said, with pass rushers constantly moving from side to side, there isn't THAT much difference between LT and RT anymore.
Why do you think that? What's the difference between the two other than theyre on opposite sides and the best guy plays the blind side?
Sep 27, 2018 at 1:29 PM
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Originally posted by Stanley:
Why do you think that? What's the difference between the two other than theyre on opposite sides and the best guy plays the blind side?
What's the difference? According to Geoff Schwartz, it's like wiping your ass with your opposite hand. That's the difference.
I agree with NC. Big Mike will be a great right tackle. Guys like Khalil Mack and Justin Houston rush from the right side. It's every bit as important as the left side. Keep him there.
[ Edited by Heroism on Sep 27, 2018 at 1:34 PM ]
Sep 27, 2018 at 1:33 PM
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:I think he could handle it, also NC where is this top notch LT coming from? We'd have to be picking pretty high in the draft, or spending huge $ in FA to get one better than McGlinchey should be.
Got Staley at just about the exact spot I hope we're going to be drafting soon. He's top notch.
Sep 27, 2018 at 1:36 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by NCommand:Didn't we use Brown's pick to move up for Pettis?
Moore? I'm hoping he finally gets off the bench himself. I'd love to see him get some snaps this year!
no we used it for Moore...we traded our 2nd and the bears 3rd (74th) I believe to get Pettis
Thanks. Not OL but I do like Moore's upside. Too bad Saleh won't give him snaps over the stellar Jimmie Ward.
Sep 27, 2018 at 1:47 PM
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Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:Got Staley at just about the exact spot I hope we're going to be drafting soon. He's top notch.
Different times, Joe came from a small school, we rolled the dice and got 12, these days with so many spread offenses in college it's really hard to find guys that are ready to play.
As has been correctly pointed out earlier McGlinchey played in a pro scheme for an O-Line coach now working in the NFL, doesn't happen often.
[ Edited by 49erBigMac on Sep 27, 2018 at 1:48 PM ]
Sep 27, 2018 at 1:49 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
What's the difference? According to Geoff Schwartz, it's like wiping your ass with your opposite hand. That's the difference.
I agree with NC. Big Mike will be a great right tackle. Guys like Khalil Mack and Justin Houston rush from the right side. It's every bit as important as the left side. Keep him there.
So you're saying it's not something McGlinchey can grow into, even though he was a LT to begin with.
What if Shanahan and Co. drafted McGlinchey to be the LT of the future, thinking the team would improve and probably not be able to draft another tackle that high again? Especially with Staley is on his way out.
Sep 27, 2018 at 1:49 PM
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:Got Staley at just about the exact spot I hope we're going to be drafting soon. He's top notch.
Different times, Joe came from a small school, we rolled the dice and got 12, these days with so many spread offenses in college it's really hard to find guys that are ready to play.
As has been correctly pointed out earlier McGlinchey played in a pro scheme for an O-Line coach now working in the NFL, doesn't happen often.
Very very true!
Sep 27, 2018 at 4:33 PM
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by WINiner:
I hated this pick when it was made. After only 3 games though the value in the pick has become crystal clear. He is imo at least as good as Brown was in passpro and a significant upgrade in the run game. His personality is a better fit and I love that he and Joe get along so well. It feels like a true mentorship in which Joe is comfortable passing that torch on to McG. We will see, 3 games does not make a career, but it's off to a really good start for the rookie.
Good post!
He has been healthy since OTA's, which is more than you can say for most players on the team. Seems like the perfect team guy.
Sep 28, 2018 at 1:25 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SF9er05:
My point of emphasis is was Trent Brown that much of a liability to essentially draft a tackle when he was more than serviceable, could you imagine how Brown would look with Richberg who is an upgrade over Kilgore as far as RG was concerned I understand there wasnt one worth taking that high. But the point being is Brown was talented for all intents and purposes we still averaged as a whole 4.1 yds per carry not amazing but not dismal. Of course you draft a tackle vs a ss the comparison was you have a serviceable player how about go after more glaring needs or keep both players for talent and depth. I say if you go McGlinchey you have him challenge Brown for the position. Its about talent, as it appears we have a very talented center, an old stalwart albeit talented Staley and a pro-ready young talented McGlinchey, which isnt bad, however we could have kept Brown and gotten better at another position. By comparison again, we bring in McGlinchey who is an upgrade over Brown in the run game but we roll with Colbert and Tartt with no other competition? or even better we went with Cassius Freakin Marsh and Eli Harold without bringing or drafting any legitimate competition. But yet we trade Brown who is a better player than any one of the aforementioned players with the slight exception for Tartt. We need talent is all Im saying and I dont think we should have been so quick to get rid of Brown again that is nothing against Big Mike.
You're missing the pt Brown was never coming back after this yr. he wants to get paid so have him for a yr and replace him in 2019 (getting nothing in return value wise for him when he leaves in FA)? or trade brown for a 3rd rd pick and get your RT (possible LT of the future) for the next 10 yrs now....makes sense.
Who were they drafting at 9 for a pass rusher (worth a top 10 pick) tartt just got a extension and Colbert was a good young rookie...sure give them som competition but don't spend a top 10 pick on it.
The point is Brown was serviceable the fact is we essentially just swapped a players MM for T. Brown again, no knock against MM but could we have perhaps gotten better at more of a position of need? Colbert flashed potential as a FS of the future but he was nowhere near the player who we made him to believe he is, the same with Tartt who cant stay healthy. So you wouldnt take Derwin James at 10? Could we have traded down and also gotten more picks? possibly a 3rd rounder? This is less about the player, this is more about the move that was made which if this was 2012 and we had a stacked team then yes lets get better at a position of strength. But where this team is now we need to stockpile as much talent as we can before we start to get rid of talent. Would Brown be a FA after this year? maybe so or maybe his pass protection along with (hypothetical) improved run blocking makes the FO think about signing him long term and we can draft another OL this year?