New NFL Catch Rule.

Originally posted by VDSF:
New NFL catch rule was just passed unanimously by NFL owners, 32-0.

1) Control

2) 2 feet down or another body part

3) A football move, such as - A 3rd step - Reaching/extending for the line to gain - Or the ability to perform such an act

did it change?

They'll still call them wrong.

so no longer incomplete if it comes out when you hit the ground. As long as you made a "football move" prior.

Exactly what it should have been before. Smart players will know to do a different move other than stretch the ball out in midfield to avoid plays that will now be fumbles. (Which they should be).

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
so no longer incomplete if it comes out when you hit the ground. As long as you made a "football move" prior.

Correct as long as there's Control. Only problem is, does control happen if a receiver jumps in the air, obviously shows hands locked around the ball, then gets hit in the legs only to hit the ground dislodging the ball.

The "New Rule" seems just like the old rule 20 years ago.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
so no longer incomplete if it comes out when you hit the ground. As long as you made a "football move" prior.

Correct as long as there's Control. Only problem is, does control happen if a receiver jumps in the air, obviously shows hands locked around the ball, then gets hit in the legs only to hit the ground dislodging the ball.

The "New Rule" seems just like the old rule 20 years ago.

Arm/elbow hits ground with possession = down by contact. Still a catch.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
so no longer incomplete if it comes out when you hit the ground. As long as you made a "football move" prior.

Correct as long as there's Control. Only problem is, does control happen if a receiver jumps in the air, obviously shows hands locked around the ball, then gets hit in the legs only to hit the ground dislodging the ball.

The "New Rule" seems just like the old rule 20 years ago.

Arm/elbow hits ground with possession = down by contact. Still a catch.

WHAT IF THE BALL MOVES WHEN HIS ELBOW HITS THE GROUND!?

rip LUL

I think the biggest change is the ball no longer has to "survive the ground". The problem may be that this leaves a lot of grey area.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
so no longer incomplete if it comes out when you hit the ground. As long as you made a "football move" prior.

Correct as long as there's Control. Only problem is, does control happen if a receiver jumps in the air, obviously shows hands locked around the ball, then gets hit in the legs only to hit the ground dislodging the ball.

The "New Rule" seems just like the old rule 20 years ago.

Arm/elbow hits ground with possession = down by contact. Still a catch.

WHAT IF THE BALL MOVES WHEN HIS ELBOW HITS THE GROUND!?

Out of bounds:
I think movement of ball is just fine but I liked the recent rule about the ball coming completely out equals no catch. Hate the bobble rule. Let it be a catch even if there's a bobble. It makes it more clear where you are looking for a 100% release of the ball out of the receivers hands. I think a bobble out of bounds as long as the necessary body part has been established in bounds is okay.

The problem has always been the part of the review where the ref is looking for the movement of the ball AND the body part for possession. This is where most of the catch rules have failed. Who cares if there's a bobble. Interpret the catch has already been initialized as soon as the ball has touched the hands. After that, you are looking for body part on ground, bobble or no bobble.

In Bounds:
This is where it gets a little tricky: is it a catch and fumble or is it a drop. Just say any correct body part down and the ball has touched both hands is an immediate catch which means only a fumble or down by contact can occur after that. If two feet have not touched down, then it is a drop.

Take out any gray area. I'm tired of the subjective of whether or not it is a catch fumble or a drop. Take the by rule possession in hands/bobble completely out of the game. If the WR is double catching, that's too bad: call it a fumble!!!

All they have to say is the Calvin Johnson and Dez Bryant plays will be considered catches

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
so no longer incomplete if it comes out when you hit the ground. As long as you made a "football move" prior.

Correct as long as there's Control. Only problem is, does control happen if a receiver jumps in the air, obviously shows hands locked around the ball, then gets hit in the legs only to hit the ground dislodging the ball.

The "New Rule" seems just like the old rule 20 years ago.

Arm/elbow hits ground with possession = down by contact. Still a catch.

WHAT IF THE BALL MOVES WHEN HIS ELBOW HITS THE GROUND!?

Catch, down by contact. Play is over the exact moment his arm/elbow touches down. Unless the ball is fully out of his possession before that moment then it's a catch.

The Calvin Johnson Rule must stay... that was too obvious that he didn't have the ball long enough..

The Pittsburgh TE (IMO) was also a good call, there was no possession..

The Eagles TE (super bowl) however was too easy, that was an easy catch.

Originally posted by 9moon:
The Calvin Johnson Rule must stay... that was too obvious that he didn't have the ball long enough..

The Pittsburgh TE (IMO) was also a good call, there was no possession.

The NFL wants those plays to be catches. With the new rule they would both be catches.