Pat Mahomes and the Kansas City Swifties Thread

Originally posted by ltrain:

Originally posted by hello49:
Why did he have to get injured right before the Packers and Vikings games! Was counting on those teams to lose those games.

They still might if their defense plays like last night.

Yes, except the Pack and Vikes would have to play as pathetically as the Denver O did last night.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Kap at the end (for his last season) had the same QB rating that Aaron Rodgers has so far this year, and better than a ton of starters have so far this year (Rivers, Goff, Flacco, Murray, Winston, Dalton, Newton, Allen, Mayfield, etc.).

In general, ratings can be helpful. However, they are not the end all. The eye test is still the final test, and that was the case with Kaepernick. His rating looked pretty good because he only looked at one option, and if it was open he threw it. If it was a tight window, he generally ran rather than take a chance on fitting the ball in there. The result was a good rating but little real success. Other teams saw that and still look at him that way.

Yes, his baggage hurts him, but as we have observed, if you are good enough the baggage doesn't matter.

Fully agreed that ratings aren't the end all and be all.

That said, ratings are extra useful in situations in which implicit bias or a lack of objectivity is a concern.

In a situation in which the "eye test" comes with a lot of priors or moral evaluations and beliefs that are outside the scope of the question being asked, the objectivity of ratings are PARTICULARLY useful.

I can't think of a modern athlete who better fits those than conditions than does Colin Kaepernick: We'd expect the vast majority of people who disagree with him politically to think he does not pass the "eye test" as a QB, just as we'd expect the vast majority of people who agree with him politically to think he does pass the "eye test" as a QB. What that should tell us is that the "eye test" is a VERY poor metric when it comes to this question.

IMO the "eye test" for Kaepernick is similar to the "eye test" for electability in the Democratic primary: which candidates are believed and not believed to pass the "eye test" tell you a TON about who the person making the claim supports and does not support, but practically nothing about that candidates actual electability. For that question as far as electability goes we're much better using the cold hard numbers of survey research.

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Yup. I swear some people intentionally forgot how bad Kap was at the end.

Wat? At his worst, kap was better than a lot of QBs in the league. He isn't in the nfl for one reason only.

Right. NFL organizations are in business aiming for a Super Bowl title, they won't get a sniff of the Super Bowl with Kap as their QB. Plain and simple.

If they thought Kap could help them win a Super Bowl they would not care that he sued them, he would have a job if he were good enough, he isn't.

remember Kap on our own 1 ignoring an uncovered receiver of ours on the sideline despite his pleas. Kap showed tremendous unawareness on that play. even johnny manziel would have saw that ez 99 yd td pass

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:

Right. NFL organizations are in business aiming for a Super Bowl title, they won't get a sniff of the Super Bowl with Kap as their QB. Plain and simple.

If they thought Kap could help them win a Super Bowl they would not care that he sued them, he would have a job if he were good enough, he isn't.

He's not in the league because of his peaceful protest. There is no other reason.

He made Jerruh Jones grudgingly kneel in protest of Trump....that's a bannable offence for life in Goodell's book

Annnnnnd now Kap has made it to the merhomes thread.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Annnnnnd now Kap has made it to the merhomes thread.

Thats because even the biggest Kap hater and/or MAGA believer knows Kap is better than Matt Moore.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Annnnnnd now Kap has made it to the merhomes thread.

Thats because even the biggest Kap hater and/or MAGA believer knows Kap is better than Matt Moore.

Kap can't emm read playbooks..


Reid has a specific system in mind.

Politics aside ,Kap was benched and lost his spot to Blaine Gabbert..

His best highlight?
Right here:

https://youtu.be/vjDeRBwO_7U

The Chiefs run game has not been good. Although part of the recent struggles has been OL injuries, they just can't run the ball well with their current RBs. Damian Williams has been a big disappointment. Last night he gained a total of 7 yards on 9 carries. Shady has been Andy's preference but of his 60 yards last night, 27 came on one run.

Today they are bringing in Jay Ajai for a tryout. He is now fully recovered from his ACL injury and cleared for work. With Mahomes out, the run game will have to get better if they are to avoid the wild card round.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Annnnnnd now Kap has made it to the merhomes thread.

Thats because even the biggest Kap hater and/or MAGA believer knows Kap is better than Matt Moore.

Kap can't emm read playbooks..


Reid has a specific system in mind.

Politics aside ,Kap was benched and lost his spot to Blaine Gabbert..

His best highlight?
Right here:

https://youtu.be/vjDeRBwO_7U

And that was a stupid move.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Annnnnnd now Kap has made it to the merhomes thread.

Thats because even the biggest Kap hater and/or MAGA believer knows Kap is better than Matt Moore.

Kap can't emm read playbooks..

Reid has a specific system in mind.

Politics aside ,Kap was benched and lost his spot to Blaine Gabbert..

His best highlight?
Right here:

https://youtu.be/vjDeRBwO_7U

And that was a stupid move.

Kaep probably wants a maholmes type worthy contract and if he doesnt get it #Collusion.

Mullens to KC for a 4th rounder?

Originally posted by JMC52:
Mullens to KC for a 4th rounder?

Ummm NO. A second and 3rd. DEAL

Lets use that had the lions scored TD instead of fg, then the call wouldn't have mattered. Had Maholmes offense converted on 1-3 downs then 4th down wasn't necessary. This injury is all on Maholmes. Had he thrown 90 yard td on the first play of every drive this wouldn't have happened. Maholmes injured himself.

Originally posted by sanjo49er:

Originally posted by JMC52:

Mullens to KC for a 4th rounder?

Ummm NO. A second and 3rd. DEAL

Idk. Like 1 out of 3 teams are losing a qb to injury this year.

Originally posted by JMC52:
Mullens to KC for a 4th rounder?