Ken Norton hired as Seahawks defensive coordinator(UPDATED)

There were rumors (Jay Glazer) that Pete was going to retire very soon. So I think this is his last hurrah so to speak. Going out with guys he trusts more aka more experienced veteran coaching. It actually makes sense who he picked, no rookie coordinators need apply. After this year or maybe next, Paul Allen will be looking for a new coach.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by LVJay:
It's just utter nonsense ... KNJ left for a bigger/better gig, that's all. He's looking out for himself/family, I don't blame him / his decision

Unprofessional at this level.

Originally posted by pickle:
He left for a better opportunity for himself as a professional. There is nothing wrong in what he did. Now, what happened to their DC, Richard?

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
It's going to take me awhile to get over this. f**k HIM. One of the biggest b***h moves in awhile

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by LVJay:
It's just utter nonsense ... KNJ left for a bigger/better gig, that's all. He's looking out for himself/family, I don't blame him / his decision

Unprofessional at this level.

The 2016 Raiders defense gave up so much real estate during the early part of 2016 that they were on the path to set league records for a 16 games season. Oakland broke a 65 year record by giving up 1,035 in their first two games of the year. Oakland did face both Drew Brees and Matt Ryan during those games but that still isn't a good excuse. They did clamp it down after that and they never gave up more than 423 yards during any of their remaining games. The issue came to the surface after the Raiders lost to the Kansas City Chiefs in week six. The offense at that time was still having its ups and downs and thankfully it kicked into high gear until Derek Carr broke his fibula in week 16. It should be noted that only six teams finished worse than the Raiders in yardage given up on defense. It should also be noted that Oakland finished 26th in that category but Miami (29th), Atlanta (25th), and Kansas City (24th) all found themselves alongside the Raiders in yardage given up. All four teams made the postseason. In other yardage categories things don't get much better. Their run defense slipped from 13th in 2015 to 23rd in 2016. Moreover, in 2015 they were 26th in pass defense with 258.8 yards surrendered. In 2016 the Raiders defense only improved moderately in that category (25th in pass defense with 257.5 yard surrendered per game). In 2016 they ranked 20th in points given up which was a slight improvement over their 2015 numbers.
#2 Ken Norton Jr.
Personally, I was shocked that Ken Norton Jr. wasn't fired after the season. Instead, Jack Del Rio fired defensive backs coach Marcus Robertson stating Explosive plays, whether you like it or not, they always come back to the secondary. The Raiders allowed a whopping 61 passes of 20-plus yards and 16 bombs of the 40-plus yard variety. Those numbers are embarrassing. In Robertson's defense the starting 2016 Raiders defensive backfield lost Charles Woodson and they had three new starters (Smith, Nelson and Karl Joseph) and that can sometimes make or break a defensive backs coach if they fail.
In the end Ken Norton Jr. is the defensive coordinator, he makes the game plans and calls the plays on defense. For the most part, those gameplans failed. What am I basing this on? Well I've already discussed stats but when I open my Raiders 2016 Media Guide I can place the 2016 Raiders as the third worst defense in Raiders history (yardage surrendered) with 6,001 yards. Only the 1997 Raiders (6,116) and the 2011 Raiders (6,201) yards were worse. Overall, they weren't much better in this category than they were in 2015 when they gave up 5,818 yards on defense. They are also tied for fourth in sacks for an entire 16 game campaign (25) with the 2003 Raiders, 2004 Raiders and 2012 Raiders.
I am still left scratching my head. How did Norton keep his job? Obviously the split with Musgrave might have been more than meets the eye and Del Rio knew that history doesn't tend to shine favorably on head coaches who fire both coordinators. Raiders history even serves as a guide to this fact. In 1988, then Los Angeles Raiders head coach Mike Shanahan fired both his offensive and defensive coordinator during the season and he was promptly terminated just four games into the 1989 season.
#3 2016 All-Time franchise rankings
In two seasons and one playoff game (33 games) Ken Norton's defenses have given up 11,819 yards of real estate. That accounts for 6.7 miles. To put that in even more perspective the great Marcus Allen gained 12,803 yards (145 games played) during his 11 year Raider career. The 11,819 yards given up by Raider defenses in 2015 and 2016 are trailing Marcus by only 984 yards. This 32 game stretch by the Raiders defense is the worst, in terms of yardage surrendered in team history.
How do they compare to some other teams during that same stretch? The Cleveland Browns won only 4 games during that same stretch that the Raiders won 19. However, their defense has given up 12,346 yards and the Silver and Black trail them by only 527 yards! The Miami Dolphins won 16 games over that same stretch but they gave up 12,141 yards. Oakland trails them by just 322 yards. To be fair, there is a fine line between yardage and winning. The Patriots have won 24 out of 32 games during the past two years and they trail the Raiders defense in this category by only 322 yards.
If that doesn't prove how valuable Tom Brady is or how valuable Derek Carr has become I don't know what does.

Originally posted by dj43:
Richard was made a scapegoat for all the injuries they had on defense. They needed somebody to keep the 12 happy and this move, superficial as it is, will do that...for a while.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Why are some of you mad that he's going to Seattle? You should be happy.

Norton is trash as a D.C. exhibit #238 viva el Twitter

The 2016 Raiders defense gave up so much real estate during the early part of 2016 that they were on the path to set league records for a 16 games season. Oakland broke a 65 year record by giving up 1,035 in their first two games of the year. Oakland did face both Drew Brees and Matt Ryan during those games but that still isn't a good excuse. They did clamp it down after that and they never gave up more than 423 yards during any of their remaining games. The issue came to the surface after the Raiders lost to the Kansas City Chiefs in week six. The offense at that time was still having its ups and downs and thankfully it kicked into high gear until Derek Carr broke his fibula in week 16. It should be noted that only six teams finished worse than the Raiders in yardage given up on defense. It should also be noted that Oakland finished 26th in that category but Miami (29th), Atlanta (25th), and Kansas City (24th) all found themselves alongside the Raiders in yardage given up. All four teams made the postseason. In other yardage categories things don't get much better. Their run defense slipped from 13th in 2015 to 23rd in 2016. Moreover, in 2015 they were 26th in pass defense with 258.8 yards surrendered. In 2016 the Raiders defense only improved moderately in that category (25th in pass defense with 257.5 yard surrendered per game). In 2016 they ranked 20th in points given up which was a slight improvement over their 2015 numbers.
#2 Ken Norton Jr.
Personally, I was shocked that Ken Norton Jr. wasn't fired after the season. Instead, Jack Del Rio fired defensive backs coach Marcus Robertson stating Explosive plays, whether you like it or not, they always come back to the secondary. The Raiders allowed a whopping 61 passes of 20-plus yards and 16 bombs of the 40-plus yard variety. Those numbers are embarrassing. In Robertson's defense the starting 2016 Raiders defensive backfield lost Charles Woodson and they had three new starters (Smith, Nelson and Karl Joseph) and that can sometimes make or break a defensive backs coach if they fail.
In the end Ken Norton Jr. is the defensive coordinator, he makes the game plans and calls the plays on defense. For the most part, those gameplans failed. What am I basing this on? Well I've already discussed stats but when I open my Raiders 2016 Media Guide I can place the 2016 Raiders as the third worst defense in Raiders history (yardage surrendered) with 6,001 yards. Only the 1997 Raiders (6,116) and the 2011 Raiders (6,201) yards were worse. Overall, they weren't much better in this category than they were in 2015 when they gave up 5,818 yards on defense. They are also tied for fourth in sacks for an entire 16 game campaign (25) with the 2003 Raiders, 2004 Raiders and 2012 Raiders.
I am still left scratching my head. How did Norton keep his job? Obviously the split with Musgrave might have been more than meets the eye and Del Rio knew that history doesn't tend to shine favorably on head coaches who fire both coordinators. Raiders history even serves as a guide to this fact. In 1988, then Los Angeles Raiders head coach Mike Shanahan fired both his offensive and defensive coordinator during the season and he was promptly terminated just four games into the 1989 season.
#3 2016 All-Time franchise rankings
In two seasons and one playoff game (33 games) Ken Norton's defenses have given up 11,819 yards of real estate. That accounts for 6.7 miles. To put that in even more perspective the great Marcus Allen gained 12,803 yards (145 games played) during his 11 year Raider career. The 11,819 yards given up by Raider defenses in 2015 and 2016 are trailing Marcus by only 984 yards. This 32 game stretch by the Raiders defense is the worst, in terms of yardage surrendered in team history.
How do they compare to some other teams during that same stretch? The Cleveland Browns won only 4 games during that same stretch that the Raiders won 19. However, their defense has given up 12,346 yards and the Silver and Black trail them by only 527 yards! The Miami Dolphins won 16 games over that same stretch but they gave up 12,141 yards. Oakland trails them by just 322 yards. To be fair, there is a fine line between yardage and winning. The Patriots have won 24 out of 32 games during the past two years and they trail the Raiders defense in this category by only 322 yards.
If that doesn't prove how valuable Tom Brady is or how valuable Derek Carr has become I don't know what does.