Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I've felt ever since Brock started playing that he and JG were basically the same QB with a couple of exceptions. One major one is the tendency to throw INTs. Jimmy has the uncanny knack to throw to the defender at the critical time. Brock is excellent at not throwing INTs. I hope the other difference is the ability to stay healthy.

It was an unexciting offense to watch even when scoring. When I watch Brock and crew I feel invigorated and excited to watch the offense. Brock has had a few real beauty almost insane throws that were so right on the dime it is awesome to watch in the corners of the endzone.

I almost feel we will always score in every possession even if not true. The entire offense feels and looks different to watch. Very exciting. Sorry, the never loses Jimmy never brought that feel to the game at least to me.

Huge Jimmy fan; thought he was very sharp in New England, I was excited when we traded for him, and supported him until the very end. With that being said, Jimmy has not played well. I think it shows that we are very fortunate as fans to have a play caller like Kyle that puts us in higher percentage situations to succeed no matter who is throwing, catching, or running the ball. Jimmy has NO chance with that Oline, they were getting wrecked on the edge, Jimmy was folded like a pretzel a few times. The one knock that I will critique Jimmy on is when he does have the time and starts to move, if its not what he likes, he panics and throws the ball away to the other team.. Happened too many times with us, and you're starting to see it more as he is with the Raiders.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I've felt ever since Brock started playing that he and JG were basically the same QB with a couple of exceptions. One major one is the tendency to throw INTs. Jimmy has the uncanny knack to throw to the defender at the critical time. Brock is excellent at not throwing INTs. I hope the other difference is the ability to stay healthy.

Production wise maybe, qb wise I don't think they're particularly close.

This should probably go into Brock thread but..

When I watch Purdy play I see a QB who can see the field very well, who understands the play design, who understands timing and anticipation and who has great processing. He isn't perfect by any means and sometimes he also misses stuff and also sometimes execution is off due to his arm talent not being top or even mid tier. The eye manipulation thing at which he is elite (yes, elite) comes from the game being not fast for him and understanding which players he needs to read/look off to get the look he wants. Brock doesnt take the easy stuff if the play which the play is about is open. He is aggressive but not reckless.

Jimmy hasn't ever done those things. Jimmy - a near ten year vet - throws balls into double and triple coverage. People just ignore it when it works. Yesterday's game he completed a ten yard pass between three defenders, in some major traffic. It worked but it was a horrendous decision. Jimmy is not good at reading defenses, Jimmy isn't particularly good at structure plays.

Then you add the creative improv stuff, the different arm slots, the pocket navigation, the explosiveness to avoid sacks, the footwork, and they're not the same.

Jimmys best or close to best is closer to Brocks floor imo.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/09/25/jimmy-garoppolo-skips-postgame-media-session-evaluated-concussion-raiders-steelers

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
I'll never understand why jimmy points to the sky lol

One of the worst interceptions I've seen by a veteran QB. Just absurdly bad decision making by Jimmy G.

But he says "f**k" so he's a great QB 😂 pic.twitter.com/jFGCsVTuK7

— Khaled Abdallah (@khaled74) September 25, 2023

all QB's do that as a signal for the receiver

Originally posted by picklejuice:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
if the raiders can build a great around jimmy and then replace him with an upgrade they will be a scary team.

Huh? Build around a player you need to replace? Did you really just say that?

So the theory is if you replace everyone with better players the team will be better? Wow I can't believe no one has thought of that.

He was making a joke about our team and Brock Purdy

Replacing Jimmy is always the key to getting better. Before or after everyone else

Charmander - > Charmeleon - > Charizard
Brian Hoyer - > Jimmy G - > Brock Purdy

lmao. love it.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
not in here.. Jimmy looked great, everyone else is bad

Will say though the defense shares the loss. Can't allow the Steelers to score 23.

yeah well the Steelers got points off of 3 turnovers so, not entirely

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
not in here.. Jimmy looked great, everyone else is bad

Will say though the defense shares the loss. Can't allow the Steelers to score 23.

yeah well the Steelers got points off of 3 turnovers so, not entirely

Said this yesterday. The Raider D allowed 23 points and had to survive 2 Jimmy turnovers and four 3 and outs. I'd say they did a pretty good job.

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
I'll never understand why jimmy points to the sky lol

One of the worst interceptions I've seen by a veteran QB. Just absurdly bad decision making by Jimmy G.

But he says "f**k" so he's a great QB 😂 pic.twitter.com/jFGCsVTuK7

— Khaled Abdallah (@khaled74) September 25, 2023

all QB's do that as a signal for the receiver

Dude just would never throw the ball away

PP be like..Raiders have all the tells

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Said this yesterday. The Raider D allowed 23 points and had to survive 2 Jimmy turnovers and four 3 and outs. I'd say they did a pretty good job.

Allowing that from that offense is sad. They barely function.

Certainly not going to excuse Jimmy though.

lol Jimmy G on that 2nd pick... I saw through the highlights, a clean pocket with no pressure yet and him starting his chicken feet panic and called a pick and what do you know he delivers . At least he's consistent.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
lol Jimmy G on that 2nd pick... I saw through the highlights, a clean pocket with no pressure yet and him starting his chicken feet panic and called a pick and what do you know he delivers . At least he's consistent.

You gonna trigger Raider fans, chill

Originally posted by 9erson3:
It was an unexciting offense to watch even when scoring. When I watch Brock and crew I feel invigorated and excited to watch the offense. Brock has had a few real beauty almost insane throws that were so right on the dime it is awesome to watch in the corners of the endzone.

I almost feel we will always score in every possession even if not true. The entire offense feels and looks different to watch. Very exciting. Sorry, the never loses Jimmy never brought that feel to the game at least to me.

I agree, when Jimmy was at the helm - scoring seemed like a chore and heavy lifting. With Brock it seems so smooth and easy.

jimmy did a solid job, and I'm a fan of his, but I think the offense feels so much better and exciting with brock at the helm.

I didn't realize how bad Jimmy is at reading and dissecting defenses until I saw him with the raiders. Maybe it's because he's new and still getting comfortable? But it's very evident that Brock sees the field so much better than jimmy and has such a better grasp of what's going on and why.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Is anyone surprised ? Did anyone besides the most homers think something would go differently when Jimmy is forced to pass 40 times a game ?

Anyone who at least tries to be objective would know that Jimmy is a turnover machine. Last night's game was a vintage Jimmy game. He got injured, threw bunch of passes into double and triple coverage, threw a few hospital balls, threw three picks, one of which was extremely ugly and inexplicable. He also moved the ball decently and force fed his two top receivers, forgetting he has Renfrow.

It was always obvious that if you put Jimmy on a team that needs to drop back and pass, his turnovers will skyrocket just off the volume increasing.

Right now he's on pace for over thirty interceptions. I doubt he gets to that number though because at some point he'll either get injured or benched. Raiders offense has 25% of their drives ending in a turnover, easily leading the league. TWENTY FIVE PERCENT. And yes, it's really early. But in comparison the Niners have 3% of drives resulting in a turnover.

Damn, that's a crazy stat.
Raiders drives ending in turnovers - 25%
49ers drives ending in turnovers - 3%

hell yeah! Go Brock! Lol

i was clearly wrong but I thought Jimmy would do better. No wonder our offense was the same thing over and over again, Kyle kept it simple and straightforward for Jimmy. He didn't have to read defenses or see a bunch of the field. He made a ton of horrible decisions this weekend, like horrific. It's like he doesn't really know how to read defenses and just chooses who he is going to throw to beforehand.