There are NFL Primetime videos of just about every game the 49ers played during Steve Young's time with the team that can be viewed on Youtube, and you can see that he wasn't completing throws that were any more difficult than the ones Jimmy completes.
Yet the clueless Niner fans are in their own little world where Jimmy sucks.
QB is supposed to be a cerebral position. It's not a "siiiiick play, doood" position. It's not street ball. The siiiick plays should be reserved for the backs and receivers.
When Jimmy checks it down, the impressive part is the mental part of that. Most of Peyton Manning's completions were routine throws, but he was the king of the cerebral part of the position.
But fans think wannabe Jersey Shore guido douche Captain Sidearmed Shovel Pass Stat Paddy Mahomo is some kind of legend because State Farm and sports announcers told them so (despite Andy Reid scheming guys open to the point where he has NEVER failed with a QB).
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Nov 22, 2022 at 10:57 PM
- JimmySteveYoung
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Nov 22, 2022 at 10:59 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by JimmySteveYoung:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Comparing stats from almost 3 decades ago now. SMH.
They're perfectly comparable. You just don't understand football enough to argue against it.
Matthew Stafford, 2021:
4,886 yards, 67.2% completion, 8.1 yards/attempt, 41 touchdowns, 17 interceptions, 102.9 passer rating
Joe Montana, 1990:
3,994 yards, 61.7% completion, 7.6 yards/attempt, 26 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, 89.0 passer rating
Matt Stafford > Joe Montana
If you disagree, you don't understand football enough to argue against it.
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:00 PM
- JimmySteveYoung
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
When they say "don't watch the rush," they don't mean literally don't pay attention to the defenders in front of you. They mean don't let them cause you to not see what's behind them too. That's why QBs look for passing lanes. When passes are batted down by pass rushers, it's not because the QB simply pretended they were there. It's because defenders are good too, and raised their hands at the perfect moment.
Also, Ramsay wasn't blitzing. Did you see him look at the safety behind him? What happened is, Ramsay saw something that clued him in on the route from study, communicated that to the safety, and jumped into a lane he knew a quick pass would be. This was 100% an attempt to bait a quick throw.
Also, how many accounts do you have now? You're probably about to lose this one too.
You're literally lying about the play now.
He was BLITZING, you absolute turd. Period, the end. He was blitzing and then stopped when Jimmy let it go.
A QB's job is to react ot the blitz and hit the hot read. It's not to read a defender's mind and anticipate he's going to stop mid-blitz and leap for the ball.
Jimmy did literally nothing wrong on that play.
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:00 PM
- JimmySteveYoung
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Matthew Stafford, 2021:
4,886 yards, 67.2% completion, 8.1 yards/attempt, 41 touchdowns, 17 interceptions, 102.9 passer rating
Joe Montana, 1990:
3,994 yards, 61.7% completion, 7.6 yards/attempt, 26 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, 89.0 passer rating
Matt Stafford > Joe Montana
If you disagree, you don't understand football enough to argue against it.
Did I say Matt Stafford is just a backup?
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:02 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:Jimmy should be filling one out to me. This is the game that should be the standard. We tried showing you guys on plays missed that would have made losses into blow outs. The only change is jimmy is now making those plays.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Steve young was the top QB or QBs in the league. He also won two MVPs, SBMVP and a SB
Mr ATT.. isn't there a certain 'form' you should be filling out right now?
but like I said, I will wait till the post season to start filling out anything
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:04 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:Jimmy should be filling one out to me. This is the game that should be the standard. We tried showing you guys on plays missed that would have made losses into blow outs. The only change is jimmy is now making those plays.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Steve young was the top QB or QBs in the league. He also won two MVPs, SBMVP and a SB
Mr ATT.. isn't there a certain 'form' you should be filling out right now?
but like I said, I will wait till the post season to start filling out anything
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:06 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by picklejuice:
it's going to be so weird seeing jimmy g in a jets uniform next year...
it doesn't even look right
I think the reason it doesn't look right is the sky is green.
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:06 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:It's toxic in jersey
Originally posted by picklejuice:
it's going to be so weird seeing jimmy g in a jets uniform next year...
it doesn't even look right
I think the reason it doesn't look right is the sky is green.
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:06 PM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by JimmySteveYoung:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Steve young was the top QB or QBs in the league. He also won two MVPs, SBMVP and a SB
He played with Rice, Taylor, Jones, and Watters, and was playing in the WCO when most teams weren't running that scheme.
Now everyone runs it.
Ever look up Young's numbers with the Bucs?
Young was more like Trey than Jimmy. He was far from ready when he came into the league. As Roger Craig said, Bill Walsh took that wild horse and made him a stud (or something to that effect).
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:07 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by JimmySteveYoung:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Matthew Stafford, 2021:
4,886 yards, 67.2% completion, 8.1 yards/attempt, 41 touchdowns, 17 interceptions, 102.9 passer rating
Joe Montana, 1990:
3,994 yards, 61.7% completion, 7.6 yards/attempt, 26 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, 89.0 passer rating
Matt Stafford > Joe Montana
If you disagree, you don't understand football enough to argue against it.
Did I say Matt Stafford is just a backup?
Just using your silly logic against you.
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:10 PM
- JimmyYardsPerAttempt
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Just using your silly logic against you.
That doesn't work, because Montana's entire legacy is based on winning 4 Super Bowls.
Steve Young didn't win 4 Super Bowls. He won 1. Just like Trent Dilfer, Jim McMahon, Mark Rypien, Joe Flacco, etc.
One ring is not why people think he's "one of the best ever."
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:14 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by JimmySteveYoung:
You're literally lying about the play now.
He was BLITZING, you absolute turd. Period, the end. He was blitzing and then stopped when Jimmy let it go.
A QB's job is to react ot the blitz and hit the hot read. It's not to read a defender's mind and anticipate he's going to stop mid-blitz and leap for the ball.
Jimmy did literally nothing wrong on that play.
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:14 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by JimmyYardsPerAttempt:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Just using your silly logic against you.
That doesn't work, because Montana's entire legacy is based on winning 4 Super Bowls.
Steve Young didn't win 4 Super Bowls. He won 1. Just like Trent Dilfer, Jim McMahon, Mark Rypien, Joe Flacco, etc.
One ring is not why people think he's "one of the best ever."
If you wanna play that game, lets ignore his 4 Superbowls. Montana was also a 2x time MVP of the league (and was robbed of another one). He was a 5x All Pro.
You listed stats as the reason 2 quarterbacks from 3 decades apart are similar. So don't move the goalposts now bud.
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:15 PM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by JimmySteveYoung:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
When they say "don't watch the rush," they don't mean literally don't pay attention to the defenders in front of you. They mean don't let them cause you to not see what's behind them too. That's why QBs look for passing lanes. When passes are batted down by pass rushers, it's not because the QB simply pretended they were there. It's because defenders are good too, and raised their hands at the perfect moment.
Also, Ramsay wasn't blitzing. Did you see him look at the safety behind him? What happened is, Ramsay saw something that clued him in on the route from study, communicated that to the safety, and jumped into a lane he knew a quick pass would be. This was 100% an attempt to bait a quick throw.
Also, how many accounts do you have now? You're probably about to lose this one too.
You're literally lying about the play now.
He was BLITZING, you absolute turd. Period, the end. He was blitzing and then stopped when Jimmy let it go.
A QB's job is to react ot the blitz and hit the hot read. It's not to read a defender's mind and anticipate he's going to stop mid-blitz and leap for the ball.
Jimmy did literally nothing wrong on that play.
He absolutely wasn't. Watch it again. Watch PRESNAP. Watch the communication. That was a bluff, with the intent that Jimmy would throw hot and Ramsey would be there to pick it, and if Ramsey was wrong, the safety would get his man.
Even if it was a true blitz (and it wasn't), and not an attempt to force a hot throw to intercept it, he'd still be directly in the passing lane, and require either a change in arm angle or a throw away.
Nov 22, 2022 at 11:15 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by JimmySteveYoung:
You're literally lying about the play now.
He was BLITZING, you absolute turd. Period, the end. He was blitzing and then stopped when Jimmy let it go.
A QB's job is to react ot the blitz and hit the hot read. It's not to read a defender's mind and anticipate he's going to stop mid-blitz and leap for the ball.
Jimmy did literally nothing wrong on that play.
Are we not IP banning anymore? Zero chance this isn't a PBM.
