Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Jimmy Garoppolo, 2019:

3978 yards, 69.1% completion, 8.4 yards/attempt, 27 TDs, 13 INTs, Passer Rating: 102.0.

Jimmy Garoppolo, 2021 (15 games):

3810 yards, 68.3% completion, 8.6 yards/attempt, 20 TDs, 12 INTs, Passer Rating: 98.7

Steve Young, 1993:

4023 yards, 68.0% completion, 8.7 yards/attempt, 29 TDs, 16 INTs, Passer Rating: 101.5

Steve Young, 1994:

3969 yards, 70.3% completion, 8.6 yards/attempt, 35 TDs, 10 INTs, Passer Rating: 112.8

Possible anti-Jimmy moron excuses:

"But, um...rushing yards!"

So if Jimmy ran for 200-400 yards per year, that would take him from, "he's just a backup in this league, yo" to, "he's one of the greatest of all-time?" Really? Yeah, obviously not.

"Um, Jimmy is carried by receivers who ran after the catch on his STACKED TEAMZ."

Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Brent Jones, Ricky Watters. Yeah, that ain't gonna work as an argument.

"Uhhhh...well, Steve could throw deep."

Could vs. did.

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Would 3 more completions of 31+ yards take Jimmy from "just a backup" to, "one of the greatest of all-time?"

"Defense was so much tougher then."

No, systems weren't as easy to succeed in back then unless you were playing on a WCO team. Which Steve Young was.

So your choices are either, "Steve Young was just a little bit better than a backup, and carried by the system and talent around him," or, "Jimmy is not far from being one of the greatest of all-time."

Actually, there's a LOT of room between, "one of the greatest of all-time" and, "he's just a backup." "Very good starter" is in between there. We can go with that. But delusional dips**t Niner turds think the same brilliant teams who think Brian Hoyer, C.J. Beathard, and Nick Mullens are all better than Jimmy Garoppolo passing on Jimmy proves he sucks.

Originally posted by JimmySteveYoung:

put on those 49er pajamas and go to sleep my son.

Steve young was the top QB or QBs in the league. He also won two MVPs, SBMVP and a SB

Originally posted by NinerFansAreIgnorant:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
He's still doing it, kid. Still not seeing defenders over the middle:

What he's doing differently is going through progressions more and predetermining his throws less.

You absolute. f**king. Moron.

Ramsay was blitzing.

QBs aren't supposed to read blitzers as cover men, you twit.

Jimmy did literally nothing wrong on that play. He had to get the ball out to a hot (which there wasn't any on the front side of this play, which is typical of a Kyle Shanahan play, as Kurt Warner pointed out).

Never talk about football again. You shouldn't have the right. You should be sent to a f**king gas chamber.

I hate Niner fans so much. Dumbest fan base in the history of the world.

Oh dear, NinerFansAreIgnorant didn't last too long on the Forum......

I mean we didn't even get to clarify his opinion on 5_Golden_Rings

Lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Steve young was the top QB or QBs in the league. He also won two MVPs, SBMVP and a SB

He played with Rice, Taylor, Jones, and Watters, and was playing in the WCO when most teams weren't running that scheme.

Now everyone runs it.

Ever look up Young's numbers with the Bucs?

Comparing stats from almost 3 decades ago now. SMH.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Comparing stats from almost 3 decades ago now. SMH.

They're perfectly comparable. You just don't understand football enough to argue against it.

Originally posted by JimmySteveYoung:
Jimmy Garoppolo, 2019:

3978 yards, 69.1% completion, 8.4 yards/attempt, 27 TDs, 13 INTs, Passer Rating: 102.0.

Jimmy Garoppolo, 2021 (15 games):

3810 yards, 68.3% completion, 8.6 yards/attempt, 20 TDs, 12 INTs, Passer Rating: 98.7

Steve Young, 1993:

4023 yards, 68.0% completion, 8.7 yards/attempt, 29 TDs, 16 INTs, Passer Rating: 101.5

Steve Young, 1994:

3969 yards, 70.3% completion, 8.6 yards/attempt, 35 TDs, 10 INTs, Passer Rating: 112.8

Possible anti-Jimmy moron excuses:

"But, um...rushing yards!"

So if Jimmy ran for 200-400 yards per year, that would take him from, "he's just a backup in this league, yo" to, "he's one of the greatest of all-time?" Really? Yeah, obviously not.

"Um, Jimmy is carried by receivers who ran after the catch on his STACKED TEAMZ."

Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Brent Jones, Ricky Watters. Yeah, that ain't gonna work as an argument.

"Uhhhh...well, Steve could throw deep."

Could vs. did.

//pbs.twimg.com/media/FhBjcWzWAAAhN9T?format=jpg&name=large

Would 3 more completions of 31+ yards take Jimmy from "just a backup" to, "one of the greatest of all-time?"

"Defense was so much tougher then."

No, systems weren't as easy to succeed in back then unless you were playing on a WCO team. Which Steve Young was.

So your choices are either, "Steve Young was just a little bit better than a backup, and carried by the system and talent around him," or, "Jimmy is not far from being one of the greatest of all-time."

Actually, there's a LOT of room between, "one of the greatest of all-time" and, "he's just a backup." "Very good starter" is in between there. We can go with that. But delusional dips**t Niner turds think the same brilliant teams who think Brian Hoyer, C.J. Beathard, and Nick Mullens are all better than Jimmy Garoppolo passing on Jimmy proves he sucks.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/NFL/passing.htm

In 1994, Steve Young's QB rating was roughly 34 points higher than the average. In Jimmy's best season his QB rating was only 12 points above average. They're not close.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by mattster03:
I keep waiting for Jimmy to revert back to his old ways... but he just keeps improving instead. Super excited for this team, it's starting to feel very special.

nah man 30 year old dude's lack of brain plasticity makes this absolutely impossible.

that one was a classic lol

He's still doing it. That isn't what's changed.

https://www.nfl.com/videos/ramsey-nearly-high-points-garoppolo-s-gift-wrapped-throw-for-would-be-int

I think the last two games, I didn't see any of these types of throws. The what the fudge are you doing or seeing type of throws lol..

He doesn't do it as much as the critics claim he does. It's historically been about one every two or three games, rather than three or four a game as is stated.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

In 1994, Steve Young's QB rating was roughly 34 points higher than the average. In Jimmy's best season his QB rating was only 12 points above average. They're not close.

Idiot: Nobody was running the WCO back then except for the Chiefs, Packers, and 49ers. They were running systems that forced QBs to make tough throws.

Look up Young's numbers with the Bucs. Most teams were running schemes similar to the one the Bucs ran with Jimmy Raye when Young was there.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Steve young was the top QB or QBs in the league. He also won two MVPs, SBMVP and a SB

Mr ATT.. isn't there a certain 'form' you should be filling out right now?

Originally posted by NinerFansAreIgnorant:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
He's still doing it, kid. Still not seeing defenders over the middle:

What he's doing differently is going through progressions more and predetermining his throws less.

You absolute. f**king. Moron.

Ramsay was blitzing.

QBs aren't supposed to read blitzers as cover men, you twit.

Jimmy did literally nothing wrong on that play. He had to get the ball out to a hot (which there wasn't any on the front side of this play, which is typical of a Kyle Shanahan play, as Kurt Warner pointed out).

Never talk about football again. You shouldn't have the right. You should be sent to a f**king gas chamber.

I hate Niner fans so much. Dumbest fan base in the history of the world.

When they say "don't watch the rush," they don't mean literally don't pay attention to the defenders in front of you. They mean don't let them cause you to not see what's behind them too. That's why QBs look for passing lanes. When passes are batted down by pass rushers, it's not because the QB simply pretended they were there. It's because defenders are good too, and raised their hands at the perfect moment.

Also, Ramsay wasn't blitzing. Did you see him look at the safety behind him? What happened is, Ramsay saw something that clued him in on the route from study, communicated that to the safety, and jumped into a lane he knew a quick pass would be. This was 100% an attempt to bait a quick throw.

Also, how many accounts do you have now? You're probably about to lose this one too.

Originally posted by JimmySteveYoung:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Steve young was the top QB or QBs in the league. He also won two MVPs, SBMVP and a SB

He played with Rice, Taylor, Jones, and Watters, and was playing in the WCO when most teams weren't running that scheme.

Now everyone runs it.

Ever look up Young's numbers with the Bucs?

Why would I need to, it's irrelevant

young didn't just show up and everything was great. He sat, learned, became a passer. That's why there was so much controversy