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Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:31 AM
- Niners99
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Meanwhile, Garoppolo took over a crap roster with 20+ guys on IR, and has us looking like a playoff team. But the Kap excuses about roster talent will continue.
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:32 AM
- Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:Originally posted by Niners99:When did anyone defend Trent Baalke? The 2012-2013 teams were made up of Scot McCloughan draft picks. Kap is the one who threw the ridiculously ill advised pick to lose the NFC title game. Boldin was open in the endzone, but his affinity for throwing to Michael Crabtree cost us a Super Bowl appearance.
The defense was our bread and butter..
Keapernick did what he had to do.
The defense failed us. That's it..
The defense was our pride, not Keapernick.. He came mid season and rolled over everone to get there...
Right, and caught everyone off guard with the read option. Once the NFL adjusted, Kap had no answer. I watched it happen with my own two eyes. I watched Kap fire rockets at people from 7 yards away with ZERO touch. I watched him skip passes on the ground routinely because he was afraid to throw a pick. I watched him stare down his first read, and go into a panic is the guy was covered.
The selective memory of Kap supporters is funny to me. How soon people forget. I was all in on Kap, and defended him tirelessly. But by the end of 2015 I just couldn't remain in denial about his decline.
And the selective memory of the defense-trent supporters is funny as well...
Because the defense failed us in the playoffs, did you forget the numbers?
Did you forget the falcons game? Lol
If it wasn't for Keapernick and our offense we wouldn't be nfc champions...
No matter how much you try, that will never change.. Rewatch the falcons game..
Keapernick and the offense carried us.. Then the defense flopped again in the super bowl....
Stop it
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Dec 22, 2017 at 9:34 AM ]
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:33 AM
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Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
As happy as I was with this trade, I never expected these kind of discussions.
They need to chill on this stuff. From the patriot perspective, this would be like the Niners choosing Steve over Joe in 1990. You don't replace an all timer who's still performing at that level without an extended period of injury. For the niners to pick Steve it took a year long injury and Steve won 2 passing title and an MVP.
Meh ... the media is gonna media. My point was, I never thought after only a couple months that this topic would ever be tabled. Without laughter anyway. The ideal situation for the Pats would have been Brady retiring after his epic comeback win in the SB ... going out on top. Then Jimmy Graps taking the reins in training camp. But I am glad it did not, because it definitely was a benefit to the 49ers.
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:34 AM
- D0PEMAN
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I think Kap had way more muscles, but I could be wrong.
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:36 AM
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:And the selective memory of the defense-trent supporters is funny as well...
Because the defense failed us in the playoffs, did you forget the numbers?
Did you forget the falcons game? Lol
If it wasn't for Keapernick and our offense we wouldn't be nfc champions...
No matter how much you try, that will never change.. Rewatch the falcons game..
Keapernick and the offense carried us.. Then the defense flopped again in the super bowl....
Stop it
Funny, I remember NaVorro Bowman making the play that won us that game.
This isnt about me defending the D, it's about the ridiculous notion that Kap's decline wasnt his fault.
[ Edited by Niners99 on Dec 22, 2017 at 9:36 AM ]
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:37 AM
- Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:And the selective memory of the defense-trent supporters is funny as well...
Because the defense failed us in the playoffs, did you forget the numbers?
Did you forget the falcons game? Lol
If it wasn't for Keapernick and our offense we wouldn't be nfc champions...
No matter how much you try, that will never change.. Rewatch the falcons game..
Keapernick and the offense carried us.. Then the defense flopped again in the super bowl....
Stop it
Funny, I remember NaVorro Bowman making the play that won us that game.
This isnt about me defending the D, it's about the ridiculous notion that Kap's decline wasnt his fault.
Rewatch the game, you need to refresh the memory..
He made the play yes.. We were also down 17 I believe as well early...

We were well behind... They failed us when it counted. Gm couldn't draft. They were tired.
You can't get cute drafting...
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Dec 22, 2017 at 9:41 AM ]
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:37 AM
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Get this loser Kaepernick out of this thrend!
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:42 AM
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/forget-2-rookies-in-bears-game-would-you-rather-have-jimmy-garoppolo/
We interrupt Sunday's meeting between the NFL's only two rookie starting quarterbacks with the following question: Wouldn't you rather have Jimmy Garoppolo?
No quarterback in the league is riding a longer streak than the Arlington Heights native. Garoppolo has won all three games since the 49ers acquired him Oct. 30 from the Patriots for a mere 2018 second-round pick.
The 49ers gave the Eastern Illinois alum a month to learn the playbook. He made his first start Dec. 3 at Soldier Field and has won as many games as Bears rookie quarterback Mitch Trubisky — in seven fewer tries. The Browns' DeShone Kizer hasn't won any. When he plays the Jaguars on Sunday, Garoppolo could throw the first 16 balls into the dirt and still have a better completion percentage than Trubisky.
Bears defensive coordinator Vic Fangio said Thursday that he knew Garoppolo had something special during the 49ers' 15-14 win against the Bears.
"Some guys have talent, but you know, they've got a lot of tools in their box, but they're not a good carpenter," he said. "It's the same thing with quarterbacks. They've got a lot of skills, got a lot of tools, but they're not a good quarterback. Like a pitcher has got the big arm, can do this, but he's not a pitcher. You know?
"This guy is a quarterback. He knows how to play the position. He's got good quarterback intangibles."
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:46 AM
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Is it really fair to compare Jimmy to rookies?
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:49 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/forget-2-rookies-in-bears-game-would-you-rather-have-jimmy-garoppolo/
We interrupt Sunday's meeting between the NFL's only two rookie starting quarterbacks with the following question: Wouldn't you rather have Jimmy Garoppolo?
No quarterback in the league is riding a longer streak than the Arlington Heights native. Garoppolo has won all three games since the 49ers acquired him Oct. 30 from the Patriots for a mere 2018 second-round pick.
The 49ers gave the Eastern Illinois alum a month to learn the playbook. He made his first start Dec. 3 at Soldier Field and has won as many games as Bears rookie quarterback Mitch Trubisky — in seven fewer tries. The Browns' DeShone Kizer hasn't won any. When he plays the Jaguars on Sunday, Garoppolo could throw the first 16 balls into the dirt and still have a better completion percentage than Trubisky.
Bears defensive coordinator Vic Fangio said Thursday that he knew Garoppolo had something special during the 49ers' 15-14 win against the Bears.
"Some guys have talent, but you know, they've got a lot of tools in their box, but they're not a good carpenter," he said. "It's the same thing with quarterbacks. They've got a lot of skills, got a lot of tools, but they're not a good quarterback. Like a pitcher has got the big arm, can do this, but he's not a pitcher. You know?
"This guy is a quarterback. He knows how to play the position. He's got good quarterback intangibles."
Good s**t from Fangio. What I like about Fangio, straight shooter, no BS. You just can't get him to blitz early enough
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:50 AM
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:Rewatch the game, you need to refresh the memory..
He made the play yes.. We were also down 17 I believe as well early...
We were well behind... They failed us when it counted. Gm couldn't draft. They were tired.
You can't get cute drafting...
Again, the core the 2012 team was Scot McCloughan draft picks. Stop bringing Baalkes crap draft that year into it. We weren't going to rely on rookies that year either way.
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:53 AM
- Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:Rewatch the game, you need to refresh the memory..
He made the play yes.. We were also down 17 I believe as well early...
We were well behind... They failed us when it counted. Gm couldn't draft. They were tired.
You can't get cute drafting...
Again, the core the 2012 team was Scot McCloughan draft picks. Stop bringing Baalkes crap draft that year into it. We weren't going to rely on rookies that year either way.
Again...
Life is not that simple, where you pick and choose scenes and edit them, unfortunately.
The core team was Scotts...
It doesn't mean the next GM can take 3-4 years of drafting off during a super bowl window and say the guy is not to blame...
So because the core was drafted by Scott, next years draft doesn't mean anything because Scott drafted the core???

Trent failed during a super bowl window... That's a nono
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Dec 22, 2017 at 9:58 AM ]
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:57 AM
- Method
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man get the kap and smith talk out of this thread. just stop it seriously. going to bore me to f*cking sleep, so tired of it. had these same damn conversations for like 10 years. Jimmy GQ is what we should ONLY be talking about in Niner Talk
Dec 22, 2017 at 9:59 AM
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
No other Qb took us further than Kap other than Steve Young over twenty years. Lol
The fact is, Kap got us a banner and did on the fly. Imagine Trent was smart enough to surround him with talent?
Now that was the real problem..
I'm more interested in how will we surround Jimmy.. because the other gm sucked at that. Miserably...
Kap had PLENTY of talent around him. Thats why he was so successful in 2012 and 2013. Our defense, Our OL, and Frank Gore had as much to do with our success as anyone. Kap was a flash in the pan. He caught the league off guard and shredded defenses until they made adjustments. After the adjustments, he had no answer.
I see this as the big difference. The team made Kap look good. Now, Garoppolo makes the team look good.
Dec 22, 2017 at 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/forget-2-rookies-in-bears-game-would-you-rather-have-jimmy-garoppolo/
Wow, those comments from Fangio are legit. He'll be pitching hard to come here next year.
As happy as I was with this trade, I never expected these kind of discussions.
Kap had PLENTY of talent around him. Thats why he was so successful in 2012 and 2013. Our defense, Our OL, and Frank Gore had as much to do with our success as anyone. Kap was a flash in the pan. He caught the league off guard and shredded defenses until they made adjustments. After the adjustments, he had no answer.